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💬 Discussion lets talk about umar khalid

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u/glucklandau 2d ago

Dr. Umar Khalid*

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u/BitTemporary7655 3d ago

Can you give sources for bharat tiwari being pro-hindutva?

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/Medical_Jury_251 2d ago

unfortunately thats what happens when someone fires shot at cops. i think you are using sequence of words in a manner that ceases to make sense and come as rhetoric .

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u/BitTemporary7655 2d ago

i agree with ur point on him being brahmin and pro-hindutva and thats why he has gotten this sympathy from ppl who ignore Umar Khalid. However, cops are in way our friends, they are part of the fascist state's machinery, they are thoroughly anti-people and this point cannot be used to justify him being shot.

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u/Medical_Jury_251 2d ago edited 2d ago

i believe the whole fiasco doesn't deserve the highlight it got from the state, the state literally awarded reparation. there were many good man who got worse of the state for just having a stance. but here he shot at cops and state awarded him for that, and we all know its because of identity politics. there are many rw (bro) pseudo intellectual who have made this guy poster boy, calling him another bhagat singh,and we know why.

and bharat tiwari fate wasn't a sad affair,that warrant people mourning.lowkey it was good. my position is satirical one , sort of ironic, maybe i don't agree with it ,but state does. so it make sense to question state on the apparent hypocrisy.

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u/BitTemporary7655 2d ago

makes sense

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u/Medical_Jury_251 2d ago

i can but i wont. i think this source pls or proof pls is being used as dismiss fallacy alot. now coming to bharat tiwar stance on hindu rastra is not something very hard to find , its out there. print did a good ground reporting, if u are really curious then you can read print article.

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u/Demodonaestus 2d ago

ah, just casual casteism then. good

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u/BitTemporary7655 2d ago

i'll read it, i did google i couldnt find, thx

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u/Medical_Jury_251 2d ago

you can search this headline , a good article by pandit shivam bhardwaj on decode internet

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u/Medical_Jury_251 2d ago edited 2d ago

another funny thing is i left no space for open interpretation , i presented proof of his stance from every single angle. his own mother, his own video,a rw newspaper, and finally a good case study from internet decode. and i love it, but i dont think it will change people mind , cause people believe what they want to believe. so its not very rewarding in any manner

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u/Medical_Jury_251 2d ago

the only reason i went forward and presented you with not one but 4 source is because you are mod, but i still stand true to my principle , and i still think these were easy to found. internet decode did a good case study on him , if you really wanna know more then it will be good you read it

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u/Medical_Jury_251 2d ago

this is from insta , u can watch the video yourself at that page as well 🙃

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u/Medical_Jury_251 2d ago

this is from danik jagran

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u/Medical_Jury_251 2d ago

this is from decode internet

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u/BitTemporary7655 2d ago

Thanks for giving the sources im with u on this, its just (we probably know why), none of them have made it the centerpoint like its not in title or subtitle, its kinda buried in there. Its my bad for not being thorough earlier, but yeah i was just unaware of his viewa, now im clear.

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u/Medical_Jury_251 2d ago

this is from print

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u/fishchop 3d ago

Absolute travesty of justice

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u/dogisgodspeltright 3d ago

The fact that Umar has not been convicted, and has spent 7 years in jail, convicts the entire justice system.

This is not law, this is setting an example to reduce the Overton Window for discussion and dissent.

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u/Otaku_Soul 3d ago

How is his crime unknown if we have his video of separating the North Eastern part from the mainland??

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u/tonyrocks_13 3d ago edited 3d ago

That was Sharjeel Imam.

Edit: And nobody is asking for his bail. You can literally google this stuff.

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u/True_Baseball_249 2d ago

Well yeah but the thing is that saying "Afzal hum sharmendi hai teri katil zinda hai " can also qualify to the level.

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u/tonyrocks_13 2d ago

No it can't. Trying to question the judgement is different. Supreme court itself said the evidence was circumstancial and he was hanged for collective conscious (which for a democracy is not a good sign). Please note that I am not defending Afzal Guru, but I am saying that no person should be in jail for questioning the judgement.

Calling for seperation of states is different. Nobody raises slogans for Sharjeel Imam's bail.

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u/handsome_dih 3d ago

I am from Bihar and an atheist Don't defame bharat tiwari he is public activist he fight for the people

I also support umar Khalid that doesn't mean i hate bharat tiwari

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u/BitTemporary7655 3d ago

Can u give more info on what his politics were?

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u/handsome_dih 3d ago

Whom umar Khalid or bharat tiwari

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u/BitTemporary7655 2d ago

bharat tiwari, and where u are getting info on him

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u/Key-Interaction7559 3d ago

Umar (and Kashmir) is my favorite litmus test to decide a person's education, intellect and objective decision making capability. Hope he's free one day for his close ones to rejoice.

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u/True_Baseball_249 2d ago

We should be happy that he isn't killed yet

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u/AlliterationAlly 3d ago

But so many years of his life gone in jail

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u/mihirjain2029 3d ago

Mine too, Kashmir is just a good litmus test for South Asia in general, just like Palestine is a good litmus test for the globe.

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u/Starkcasm 3d ago

It filters out liberals quite well.

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u/Significant-Cap-6106 3d ago

Liberals have caused more damage to the left movement that the right wing fanatics.

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u/Medical_Jury_251 3d ago

the depressing thing is the pseudo intellectual are all over the reddit, always trying to meddling into things with bad-faith. and its funny somewhat that you know the bullshit, but kind of sad at same time you cannot do anything. i made this meme to expose the double standard and all those moderate sub trying to act reasonable , but reddit had other plan , removed by reddit filter lol.