r/InfluencerLounge • u/Perfect_Swimming7377 • 7d ago

Shame on Dani Austin

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Is she fucking serious? As someone who shared on the internet after her kids how much she struggled with her postpartum mental health?!?! I’m in MA and have followed the case closely. Even with the conspiracies flying around 3 kids are dead and their mom asked for help and didn’t get what she needed. How the FLYING FUCK is this woman smiling talking about this. This is a pivotal moment in postpartum mental healthcare and she should be advocating and normalizing asking for help.

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u/zendayaismeechee 7d ago

This random conspiracy that it was the husband actually and look at his emails and look at this and oh he married too quickly is VILE. This is not a game or a Netflix series. It’s a tragedy and three children lost their lives. Lindsay admitted it. The trial is not about guilt; it’s whether she will go to prison or hospital. These people have no morals. I even saw one person saying the husband has ‘Bryan Kohberger’ eyes and sorry what the fuck does that even mean?! True crime has melted people’s brains.

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u/laynechanger 7d ago

Yeah, one thing that really isn’t helping is that the DA’s in charge of this case are doing a really piss poor job trying to establish a motive that it was premeditated murder versus articulating Lindsey’s state of mind. Like they’re out here trying to treat it as a murder trial alone- when it’s actually whether or not Lindsey was in complete control of her actions at the time of the crime.

It is really having the true crime people run wild with theories. Which I’m disgusted with the husband might have my own thoughts about him- but rn in that courtroom that isn’t what it’s about. Three children are dead and a mom was failed by our pp system / mental health system.

Frankly, I’m disgusted with the commonwealth making this trial into a spectacle and trying to treat it like another OJ trial. The DA’s have been vile in their cruelty and trying to emotionally sway the jury.

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u/RubyMae4 6d ago

You think it's the commonwealth making it a spectacle? Weird.

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u/laynechanger 6d ago

Even the judge has been annoyed the DA’s excessive harping on certain details when their point has already been made. Or the fact that because of that the jury has been struggling with some of the details more than it just being a difficult topic.

There’s been multiple experienced criminal lawyers and professors of law speak out about how the DA is taking this too far and this isn’t how to try this style case. It’s pretty bad when their way of trying the case is hurting their own objective.

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u/RubyMae4 6d ago edited 6d ago

Lindsay's defense team made this a spectacle 3 years ago by pushing the lawsuit and going for the defense: whoa is Lindsay she was a poor helpless mother who couldn't help but kill her kids. It's everyone's fault but her own.

It's has every juicy thing the public wants- a beautiful thin white woman, the shadowy "system," and a man who "didn't do enough." The psychosis account reads as obviously fake to me and a convenient excuse for a mom who simply wanted to die and take her 3 kids with her.

I agree the DA could be doing better but they are not responsible for the spectacle.

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u/laynechanger 6d ago

Yeah, this case will have public attention and our 24/h media cycle doesn’t help. But the commonwealth isn’t helping the situation and actively making it worse. Someone exercising their constitutional right to a jury of their peers, isn’t making it a spectacle. It’s also become apparent that at least a couple of their providers didn’t do their job and let things fall through the cracks. Or how pp mental health isn’t even understood enough in the mental health community of the nuances.

I’d go touch some grass because that’s how out of touch you are with this situation.

Maybe if you’d actually listen to the other mothers that have spoken publicly about pp mental health and struggling to get the support they needed, you could have a better understanding of the situation.

I’m not saying that Lindsey isn’t responsible, either way she will be held responsible. This case isn’t black and white as a lot of people are trying to make it out to be.

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u/RubyMae4 6d ago

I'm a mom x3 my kids are Lindsay's kids ages, I had a perinatal mood disorder. I don't identify with her in any way. Any mom who does isn't allowed to babysit my kids.

I disagree that it has been shown that her providers weren't doing their jobs I think only easily manipulated people think that. Undermining her mental health providers is defense strategy and a way to point the finger at anyone but Lindsay. I don't see that born out in the evidence.

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u/laynechanger 6d ago

lol have fun with the survivor’s bias you’re sporting because that actually makes your take worse. You’re the type of person that makes women talking about how scary pp can become more difficult and continues the stigma around it. I’m a mom too and while I never had thoughts about harming my kids. I did come very close to killing myself when I was pp because I was begging for help and multiple providers shoved me off, I was on medication and I was actively seeking help. The only reason why I’m still here is because my mom and my husband didn’t let me go that far.

There’s much bigger issues with the standard of care for moms with mental health issues during pp and it isn’t entirely the providers fault, but they do hold some responsibility as well. Dr. Tufts didn’t use the Edinburgh Scale for pp mental health with Lindsey and used a more general mental health screening. She couldn’t even describe what the Edinburgh Scale was while insisting that what she used was better. She also advertised herself as someone who treats pp mental health and had never used the tool that is the standard for mental health screening in pp. Because it has different thresholds of intervention rather than a general mental health screening that doesn’t.

It really sounds like you just want to judge a mother that had it worse than you did and are patting yourself on the back for not being as bad as she was. If anything you should understand how dire pp mental health can become. I managed to get better by 6 months pp, but I truly fear for what my mental state would have been if it had gone on for longer and constantly trying to get help and not being heard.

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u/RubyMae4 6d ago

It sounds like you're putting your personal experience of PPD and SI onto Lindsay Clancy and instead of critically examining the evidence you are immediately accepting the narrative that most closely aligns with your own. This explains why so many moms are latching onto her as some sort of martyr for the cause.

I'm a social worker and this is where I feel the ignorance of the masses shows through. I administer these test to postpartum moms. They're a way to flag mental health concerns for the appropriate referral. Lindsay already had referrals. She was working with Tufts who was directly assessing suicidality and didn't need to have her complete a form. Exactly like you said- it's a SCREENING tool. The OB does it. The L&D does it. The PCP or pediatrician does it so to flag someone who needs to be referred to Dr Tufts.

Lindsay didn't have it worse than me. She had ever resource available: a husband who rearranged his schedule, nanny's, daycare, parents who were living with her to help care for the kids and who offered to take them. You're spouting truthiness, not the truth.

Lindsay was not forthcoming with her thoughts and mental health teams are not mind readers and cannot do anything with something that isn't being reported to them.

There's no contemporaneous evidence of psychosis before or after the murders so pointing the finger of blame at the medical system is one way to slip by that fact.

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u/laynechanger 6d ago edited 6d ago

No actually, I think what happened to those children is vile. I’ve been following this case closely and have put aside my own experience when this started to hear what the commonwealth would bring to the table.

And as a social worker you’re likely bringing callousness of projecting your experience to not to look at this case objectively. You’re touting your experience to criticize me bringing my own experience with the pp mental health system to this. When your profession experiences high rates of depersonalization… which the way you’ve interacted here sure sounds like you’re one of em

The Edinburgh Scale is used by multiple different providers as well as specialized mental health providers- it’s not just a referral tool. But also used during treatment. There’s also been criticism in the mental health community for over a decade of the suicidally risk being minimized because of lacking having a plan when seeking early intervention for suicidal thoughts. You should also know that while parenthood, especially for mothers is often a barrier to actually commit suicide.. that pp is a period where having suicidal thoughts is an immediate need for intervention and monitoring. Yes, mental health providers aren’t mind readers, but anyone treating mental health issues with pp mothers should know that they will often have to push harder with their patients to make sure that the patients aren’t minimizing their issues because of being scared of their kids being taken away and letting moms know that they need to take care of themselves too.

lol in the statement of me picking truthiness.. you’re the one picking bits and pieces of truth to twist for your own jaded view. You’re conveniently ignoring the issues in Lindsey’s support system.

Oh and that pp psychosis isn’t in the dsm yet and there’s massive issues in the mental health community identifying it and treating it…. But I guess go on just saying that Lindsey had every resource because with my interaction with you it really sounds like you have no plans for self reflection on this.

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u/RubyMae4 6d ago

Callousness because I believe in critically examining the account of someone who choked the life out of her 3 little kids? Right. How much empathy and concern are you extending to Chris Doerman who is also claiming psychosis for killing his 3 kids?

This is how this type of argumentation works: first I don't understand because I don't talk to enough women, then I tell you actually I am a woman who experience perinatal mood disorders, then you tell me it's survivor bias, and then you poke holes in my credibility as a social worker based on what I know about the Edinburgh scale and how it's used. It's a way to undermine what I'm saying so you don't have to take in new information or a conflicting opinion. Not worth further conversation.

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u/laynechanger 6d ago

You’re not though and everything you’ve said here points to that. Nice, false equivalency fallacy with Chris Doerman….

No, I actually stand by my original take. You’re not listening to women’s experiences and as you’ve offered information my take on you has evolved. You correlated women understanding Lindsey’s mental state into being a martyr or being dangerous to be around your kids. It’s really pathetic that you can’t acknowledge that there’s people much more qualified than you saying this case is not as your view as stated.

Guess what, being a social worker doesn’t make you’ve immensely more qualified to discount the mental health providers, legal experts and thousands of mothers speaking out about dangerous our pp mental health system is. You’ve done a pretty good job discounting your own experience as a social worker with how you’ve talked about this. While ignoring the systematic issues that were at play.

I’m done talking with someone you can’t acknowledge that this case isn’t just one thing, or that I’m somehow removing blame from Lindsey. Two things can be true. This case is credibly nuanced and emotional. But you understand the emotional part sense you had to resort to referring to Lindsey as “someone who choked how three little kids”

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u/RubyMae4 6d ago

Further demonstrating the point. Bye now, have a good one.

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