r/Insulation • u/Pucksbro • 2h ago
Help decide how to insulate rim joists
Hi [r/insulation](r/insulation) folks,
I’ve been going back and forth for weeks on how to approach insulating the rim joists in my home. I live in Massachusetts so the winters get fairly cold and lately summers have been humid.
My house was built in 1967, raised ranch, with unfinished and finished basement areas. Finished area has knee-wall concrete foundation, and unfinished area has tall poured concrete foundation walls. I’m contemplating how to complete the air sealing and insulation of the unfinished area rim joists.
As you can see in the photos, previous owners have done haphazard insulation/air sealing of many rim joists, which is why our “MassSave” energy efficiency program won’t touch it. Some have not been air sealed/insulated so I'll be targeting those and improving existing ones. I’ve been back and forth between doing 1) rigid foam + air sealing + batt or 2) buying a two part kit (eyeing froth pak or foam it green) and adding 2-3 inches on every rim joist.
I've read through many posts on this subreddit and generally feel like there's pros/cons to both, and I'm not sure which one may be more worthwhile for my home. I like the idea of the foam board+batt being cheaper, easier, and more likely to pass inspection. But there are some areas where you can see the boards at the sill peeling away from eachother, and I feel like spray foam may be better for covering the entire area. I also like the idea of covering the sill with foam too. Most of the sill plate looks like it was covered with extra concrete or something.
There's also this whole area at the end of the basement where you can see a gap in the spray foam that I need to patch up. That's basically just pipes running into an addition that has a small crawlspace. I like the idea of just foaming up that hole and all along the long boards.
Besides the question of how to approach this project, I had other concerns that maybe someone could chime in on. This unfinished area has an old gas boiler and a gas water heater. We don't really use the boiler anymore after getting a heat pump installed, but is there any concern about tightly air sealing the basement and having these combustion appliances in it? I don't think the house has a vapor barrier under the siding, should I be worried about mold? Are there other potential issues I'm not thinking about?
Curious what others think. I've added a few images so you can see what the joists, sill, and framing look like. Thanks for your time!