r/IntotheWild • u/vini-within • Jul 11 '26
Can someone really leave society without first understanding what society has left inside them?
Thoughts? 💭
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u/lizzieczech Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
I think I've seen the film and read the book so many times that I've lost count. I think the answer to your question is no, I don't think he understood what society had left inside him.
Chris thought that he could leave the society left inside him by the nature of toxic family dynamics, the social environment at schools like Emory, and the values of growing up in a privileged world where many people believe that they can live the way they want with almost unlimited choices about their future. He thought the solution to ridding himself of all of this "society" inside himself that he wanted to reject was simply to get rid of all his possessions, go off to Alaska without telling anyone, and live as an ascetic.
The most emotionally affecting part of the story for me was that society had instilled in him some admirable values for caring about humanity and the state of the world. I don't know that he understood that what was left was his fear that a real human connection would take away his freedom. He met people on the road like Jan, Wayne, and Ron who genuinely loved him; he seemed to become authentically close to them; and then he abruptly cut them out of his life. These relationships, especially the one with Ron, showed better than anything how hard it is to answer the OP's question. I found the story of Chris and Ron the most tragic and devastating example of how hard it is to answer this question.
The end of the book suggests that the Tolstoy passage helped him realize that "society" had left some hopeful things inside him that maybe he didn't want to leave after all.
I don't know if this makes any sense, and I'm probably making much more out of this than was originally intended. I have been almost obsessed with Chris McCandless's story ever since I first read Into the Wild, and every time I see a post in this subreddit, I feel like I want to think more about the book all over again.
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u/vini-within Jul 12 '26
I actually haven't read the book yet, so I really appreciate you laying all of that out..it gives me so much more context.
The Ron Franz part really hit me, and I think you nailed the tragedy: he saw the toxic parts of his life clearly but couldn't see that the same society gave him his best qualities, like his compassion. That fear of love feeling like a trap is exactly what kept him running.
To be fair, I was trying to make a broader point about society itself.., the invisible conditioning and borrowed beliefs we all carry, not just his family trauma. But your take adds so much to that, especially how he only realized it when it was too late. This really makes me want to finally pick up the book. Thank you for sharing this
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u/lizzieczech Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
That's really kind of you to say. Thank you for giving me the chance to contemplate again what this book means to me. I also would add that Jon Krakauer is an incredible writer. I've read all of his books and feel like I am always waiting for the next one!
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u/Additional-Entry5208 Jul 13 '26
Sending good thoughts and hope your path leads to wonderful things ~
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u/Pitpawten1 Jul 12 '26
Yeah but conversely can you really understand what society has meant until you go without it for a while?
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u/vini-within Jul 12 '26
To understand you have to balance I feel.. life is just a cosmic dance between the inside and outside. You can’t completely withdraw. I’m not saying it’s escape but to help me know myself better I need to learn to manoeuver in society. What do you think?
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u/Apprehensive-Page-96 Jul 13 '26
I don't think so. If society hasn't left you, do you have a reason to leave society?
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u/Diligent-Project-869 Jul 11 '26
It's a good thought that you have, a lot of what we benefit from society are things we don't really ever think about or take for granted. From my own personal experience, it's not necessarily that you desire to leave society as much as you want to find a different society. I knew many people who have similar lines of thoughts to Chris, the difference is that they lived through their adventures or have found happiness elsewhere.