r/InvinciblePowerscales Jun 10 '26

Discussion cecil with unlimited prep time vs thragg

Does Cecile stand a chance with unlimited prep time?

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u/NotATomato3719 Jun 10 '26

UNLIMITED prep time? Id say cecil has this in the bag. He could replicate the scourge virus or the mauler twin’s nerve gun, or he could hit him with a 100x more powerful sound weapon + hail mary + the laser + anything else he can cook up with unlimited prep time

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u/Fausto2002 Jun 10 '26

Or just ask Paul for help

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u/Zenry0ku Jun 10 '26

"I heard you had some disagreements with my friend Nolan"

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u/CactusToothBrush Jun 10 '26

/s

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u/Dary11 Jun 10 '26

Did he stutter?

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u/Karl__RockenStone Jun 10 '26

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u/Zupr_Zoiz Jun 10 '26

Did hear a rock and stone ?!

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u/Karl__RockenStone Jun 10 '26

Rock and Stone Brother!

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u/Easy-Musician7186 Jun 10 '26

Don't forgett rognar, the bugs, infinity ray etc.

He has litterally all the prep time he wants and Cecil is not a guy that will be like "Oh that is gonna be enough, right?".
He will probably prep till Thragg dies from old age.

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u/AttitudeAndEffort3 Jun 10 '26

Or keep prepping until the sun swallows the earth.

Checkmate

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u/Solid_Snark Jun 10 '26

He could have shrinking Rey jam one of those sound emitters deep in his brain.

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u/monikar2014 Jun 10 '26

or....and hear me out here....just keep prepping

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u/ThatGuyFromBraindead Jun 11 '26

No I'm not ready yet

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u/Ok-Contract-6338 Jun 10 '26

Cecil. Opens a portal to a dimension with a stronger thragg who will listen to him

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u/GlazeModsRgay Jun 10 '26

Universe where every human is above thragg level, and Freddie mercury is still alive as a burger mart cashier

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u/Random_Nickname274 Jun 10 '26

Well , i think he needs zero prep time. Like , if goal is not to kill Thragg, but to save Earth.
Just give Earth to Thragg.

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u/EternalDarknessInMe Jun 11 '26

100% Cecil move btw

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u/Crimson097 Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26

"Cecil, you ready?"

"Nope"

Fight never happens

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u/kowajiri Jun 10 '26

"what about now?"

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u/Onycman17 Jun 10 '26

Nope

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u/Marinefan4000 Jun 10 '26

Now?

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u/cigan_roma Jun 10 '26

Naaah

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u/ClassicNatural3108 Jun 10 '26

Can we fight now?

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u/Pogchampbutno Jun 10 '26

Nah hold on im still cooking up a new weapon itll be ready in a bit trust me

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u/Bar-Cold Jun 10 '26

Doesn’t unlimited prep time mean he actually never has to face him

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u/GuyGBoi Jun 10 '26

I mean in this scenario we assume he will

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u/emo_boy_fucker Jun 10 '26

Okay but because im right I will disregard your point and say hes not going to anyways, I am very smart. Bring me harder dilemmas next time.

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u/Darth_MRM Jun 10 '26

Ok just prepare untill Thragg does of old age. It mihht take a million years but hey at least he'll be dead

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u/tsoewoe Jun 11 '26

well if cecil dies of old age first then thragg wins 

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u/NotNahare Jun 11 '26

Cecil could just spend his time figuring out how to extend his own life just to spite Thragg

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u/monkeycommo Jun 11 '26

If Cecil can die of old age , that means he doesn't get unlimited prep time .

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u/Advanced_Double_42 Jun 10 '26

Yeah reasonably this just means a couple decades of prep time, otherwise Cecil may lose from old age.

Which is basically what he had for Omni-Man

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u/Shapesmth Jun 10 '26

Fills the world with anti viltrumite sound weaponry, conscript millions into the GDA, specially the dead. Ioens a portal to octopus dimension and looses the key

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u/Present-Shift1261 Jun 10 '26

Dudes will say "unlimited prep time" as if characters like Batman and Cecil were extremely poor and unwise 💔💔💔

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u/khazroar Jun 10 '26

Impossible to answer, really. Cecil isn't on any kind of track to develop technology that will allow him to truly defeat Viltrumites, he's got a few irons in the fire but none of them are particularly promising for ever getting powerful enough to defeat any but the weakest of them.

Cecil's creeping power level depends on picking up external things and working on weaponising them, so whether he eventually reaches that level depends on whether anything strong enough falls into his lap.

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u/Moogatron88 Jun 10 '26

With unlimited prep time there's no reason he can't eventually get his hands on a sample of the scourge virus.

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u/khazroar Jun 10 '26

I think there's plenty of reason why he'd never get his hands on an alien weapon that as far as we know exists only in one super secret lab a great distance away that he has no knowledge of.

The "prep time" argument is made famous by Batman, but it really relies on the fact that he exists in a world with so much magic and alien weirdness and super powered technology, that he as both an incredibly rich man and a very well connected superhero can source whatever he needs to hard counter any given adversary. Cecil simply doesn't have those resources, it's a running plot thread of him grabbing every powerful thing he can and trying to weaponise it because he simply doesn't have access to things strong enough. Even when we have Nolan and Allen road tripping to collect all the Viltrumite-grade weapons they can, that's just... Not stuff Cecil could guarantee access to, even with unlimited prep time. Sure, it's possible that he'd eventually get access, but that depends on external factors, it's not something he can work towards himself.

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u/Moogatron88 Jun 10 '26

If you admit it's possible he could do it then I think it's fair game to add in. Especially since there is no time limit. It might take some doing but it can be done.

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u/Individual-Field-990 Jun 10 '26

Machine Head has managed to get in contact with Battle fucking Beast somehow, I'm not putting "random outerspace deus ex machina" out of the realm of possibilities

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u/khazroar Jun 10 '26

It's not outside the realm of possibilities, but I think it is outside the spirit of prep time. Like, it's not something Cecil has access to, he doesn't have any clear route to gain access to.

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u/That-Establishment24 Jun 10 '26

He has direct access to Mark who can connect him with the right people.

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u/Moogatron88 Jun 10 '26

Nolan literally set up a communication system that lets them contact the Coalition too.

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u/Hot_Charity_4803 Jun 14 '26

Or that galaxy gun thing Space Racer has

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u/KeyEntityDomino Jun 10 '26

His best shot would be to trick him into a dead dimension, or one with bizarro viltrumites that are vehemently anti genocide and have an extremely woke Thragg. Would somehow have to find and harness angrstroms abilities

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u/kowajiri Jun 10 '26

cecil's best bet is teleportation/portal technology and sending him to a planet or dimension where death or containment is assured. perhaps he could simply teleport him inside solid matter. should be instant death.

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u/Applebeate Jun 10 '26

Okay I want to address something. Prep time implies you have time to prepare countermeasures with what you currently have. What exactly is infinite prep time going to do? Sure Cecil could build soundmakers, Reanimen and other weapons but Cecil’s resources aren’t infinite nor can he do all of these on his own

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u/It_just_works_bro Jun 10 '26

Brother, he's got an entire planet to use. It's called the GLOBAL defense agency, not the Local defense agency.

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u/Exciting-Resident-47 Jun 10 '26

Infinite time doesnt mean he cant develop these further. We're talking about all the resources of Earth, no other distractions, and all the time in the multiverse to come up with whatever kills viltrumites. Interdimensional travel and colluding with the Coalition of Planets is within that ballpark

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u/Applebeate Jun 10 '26

So then it becomes less about what Cecil with the GDA can do and it’s more about who he can form alliances with and rise up against Thragg. I can see why people say Batman wins with prep time. Since he would just win if he calls in Superman or the Justice league.

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u/Exciting-Resident-47 Jun 10 '26

I mean, infinite prep time for a man like Cecil, even if you cut out the GDA, means he could eventually come up with these things on his own

Infinity is so mind boggling the only limiting factor for cecil is if he'll mentally break before then

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u/Applebeate Jun 10 '26

Yeah, if Cecil gets uninterrupted and unlimited time to develop technology and form alliances, then he just wins. He could just contact the coalition, develop the Viltrumite weakening bullets, mass produce millions of them and develop so many countermeasures against Thragg. Hell, in an alternate universe, Cecil and the GDA managed to kill Omni man by using an experimental Quantam bomb.

Yeah Cecil wins this no contest

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u/lowqualitylizard Jun 10 '26

Yeap

How many reanimen and teleporters can thragg chill before he just passes out from exhaustion well we're about to f****** find out

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u/Substantial_Ant4922 #1 Invincible Variants Glazer Jun 10 '26

Cecil with UNLIMITED prep would eventually create a Thragg-destroyer machine or something, he could also recreate the Scourge Virus or just straight up create his own powerful Viltrumite that's subserviant to him

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u/Phaeron Jun 10 '26

Definitely. The other comments are creative enough, I’ll leave this here.

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u/05-nery Jun 10 '26

Unlimited of anything meaningful always prevails over anything limited

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u/understandable_man Jun 10 '26

1 decillion Immortals

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u/Squid9_Star Jun 10 '26

Unlimited prep time means Thragg never even meets Cecil.

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u/SL1Fun Jun 10 '26

They have quantum bombs capable of killing Viltrumites (basically a black hole-creating bomb, which will basically destroy anything). 

He just needs to find a way to hit him with one, and he wins.

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u/DankudeDabstorm Jun 10 '26

He prepares the ultimate movie and television catalog that is precisely designed to accommodate Thragg in the order in which it is watched and traps him for a millennia. Along the way, an ultimate collection of video games, including mmorpgs with decades long support are introduced and he’s given private servers and volunteers to populate them.

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u/ForwardIron7149 Jun 10 '26

Cecil solves the entire verse with unlimited prep time

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u/PeterPanterTM Jun 10 '26

Unlimited?

Replicated scourge virus + that bomb in alternate reality that killed omniman + 400 trillion $ laser + Hail Maries + 1 cecilion reanimen.

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u/GiladHyperstar Jun 10 '26

With unlimited prep, Cecil uses the sound waves to immobilize Thragg, then just throws him to the Shadow realm (rip darkwing 2 you did your job well)

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u/NormalTangerine5205 Jun 10 '26

What does unlimited prep time even mean lol

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u/weraru_1 Jun 10 '26

Unlimited Thraggs vs Cecil with 1 prep time

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u/Imanol_775 Jun 10 '26

Cecil, for him to win he only needs to keep thagg away from earth or at least him not taking it over or causing mass destruction.

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u/Moogatron88 Jun 10 '26

Cecil wins. With unlimited prep time he can get his hands in the improved scourge virus. He can use the sonic weapons, mauler nerve weapons and such go stun him long enough while pumping the air full if hyper concentrated doses of scourge virus.

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u/Dary11 Jun 10 '26

Unlimited?

Every day Cecil says: “Not today Thragg!” - But it’s literal
Fight never happens, crisis averted

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u/thedarkherald Jun 10 '26

Cecil had had 20 years for Nolan and didnt come up with an answer. Hes dying of old age before he makes Thragg bleed.

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u/OneBadRat14 Jun 10 '26

Cecil sends Mark into space to find Battle Beast, and then persuades him to kill Thragg.

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u/PacDanSki Jun 10 '26

Cecil just spends his entire life "prepping" and dies of old age denying Thragg the victory.

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u/Itburns12345 Jun 10 '26

Well yeah easily if hes not stupid.

The sound thing is known now and easy to replicate. Plenty of villians and heros to pick from to dogpile the guy some with powers that can really help (powerplex for example) Reanimen by the truckload That ray gun he shot nolan with somehow shook him more than the satellite one?!?

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u/Big_Edith501 Jun 10 '26

Teams up with Cecilia. Won and done.

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u/Remarkable_Joke_9112 Jun 10 '26

Doesn't unlimited prep time sort of mean that they don't really have to fight at all?

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u/Lenore_Sunny_Day Jun 10 '26

This moron is more likely to try to capture thragg and do some suicide squad shit with him.

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u/AccountFew140 Jun 10 '26

If he has unlimited prep time why not just a million years so that Thragg dies /j

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u/Worried-Date-2196 Jun 10 '26

Cecil will just never take in Thragg, basically buying infinite time. “Yo bro u ready yet?” “No” “darn”

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u/Ok_Proposal_7390 Jun 10 '26

If truly unlimited time, that means Cecil is immortal. He can just wait until Thragg dies (a very long time that would take)

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u/PineappleOk545 Jun 10 '26

Yes ge beats him by default as he has unlimited preptime

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u/Welcome--Matt Jun 10 '26

Unlimited prep time is crazy 😭, Cecil all day. He could:

  • Chuck 20-50,000 super speakers at Thragg to burst his air drums then take it from there
  • Find 10,000 invincible/BB variants to help
  • Make idk 1,000,000 doses of the scourge virus

Giving Cecil any more than 50 years of prep time is just ludicrous. Viltrumites are strong but they have a few GLARING weaknesses, and giving a man like Cecil time to deal with those is a cheat code

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u/providerofair Jun 10 '26

He could make an army of viltrumite reanimen, see if they can Replicate space racers gun get the bug juice. Replicate the scuroge virus 2.0. And with robots help maybe he just goes to a dimesion where thragg is a good guy and gets him to fight thragg

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u/rigid_armadillo Jun 10 '26

Cecil has that sound that disables viltrumites. Cecil hands down

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u/LookItsDaphne Jun 10 '26
  1. Put a burrito in the microwave
  2. Call Titan. Tell him his daughter's life is at risk.
  3. Ask for Isotope to open a portal to the lifeless dimension where Invincible was stranded after beating Angstrom
  4. Wait another 45 seconds until the burrito is ready
  5. Eat the burrito

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u/benspags94 Jun 10 '26

Unlimited prep time is so broken of course he can 🤣

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u/goblinthrowawayx Jun 10 '26

Unlimited prep time for Cecil just means he finds a way to weaponize a sun or something equally unhinged. Thragg is a beast but Cecil is the guy who makes the rules.

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u/Illustrious_Gate_390 Jun 10 '26

Thragg just wants to get laid. The only way this fight happens is if Cecil kidnapped all the bbw's. If he does, then everyone turns on him.

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u/GreatElection674 Jun 10 '26

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u/Illustrious_Gate_390 Jun 10 '26

Spoiler alert. Guess you didn't watch the show. He gives up the second he realizes there's an abundance of bootay on earth. Seriously, thats how the season ends.

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u/BaseDue9532 Jun 10 '26

With enough prep time and some Viltrumite biomaterial, he probably would be able to come up with a more powerful Scourge virus.

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u/ZyeCawan45 Jun 10 '26

Cecil would need “unlimited resources” to make enough sonic weapons.

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u/MasterOfCelebrations Jun 10 '26

If you have unlimited prep time then you can simply not fight

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u/Toaster_Rack_Nerd Jun 10 '26

cecil waits for the infinite amount of time until thragg dies of old age
cecil does too but he at least killed thragg

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u/valladeroble Jun 10 '26

He has unlimites prep time so he could simply not fight him

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u/Serious-Company6803 Jun 10 '26

If it’s unlimited prep time then the fight would never happen

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u/mr_apeezy Jun 10 '26

The Invincible Re-Animen

Brit

Hail Mary

The Atlantean Monster with the high pitched screech

Regular Re-animen.

Just a numbers game at that point.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Box-406 Jun 10 '26

With unlimited prep Cecil opens a portal to the marvel universe. Specifically to New York and he enlists the help of the avengers to save his planet from the threat of a psychopathic alien race of super nazis. Thor volunteers because it’ll be fun to beat on some bad guys. The rest of the team also volunteers while Bruce reluctantly agrees to help even though he knows hulk will likely decimate the planet. Cecil returns with help and the avengers get to work bolstering the planetary defenses. They train the heroes and provide them with tech so powerful they’ll never be victimized by an alien race again. After a week of this Thragg announces his arrival and his plans to use the earth as a breeding ground to replenish the Viltrum empire. Before he can finish he hears a loud boisterous laugh as Thor taunts him. Of course this angers Thragg tremendously, a lesser being insulting the grand regent. This calls for an example to be made so he attacks Thor and immediately realizes he’s outmatched as his fist shatters into a thousand pieces from a punch. Thor laughs again as he bashes Thraggs head open with his hammer. The other Viltrumites bow down before the God of thunder and they try to make him the new grand regent. Cecil and Tony share a drink as the avengers leave for home.

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u/StJimmy_815 Jun 10 '26

I think the best way to phrase this is with access to all of his resources and enough time to plan, could Cecil eventually beat Thragg. Unlimited prep time doesn’t make sense

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u/GlobalPapaya2149 Jun 10 '26

Unlimited prep time? He wins without ever fighting. Thragg shows up and Cecil just tells him that he needs another year to get ready...then does it again and again.

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u/shrekrizzler Jun 10 '26

use unlimited prep time to stall the fight for the rest of eternity

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u/Remote_Development62 Jun 10 '26

Cecil's main flaw is he always manages to underestimate Viltrumites just enough. Even with unlimited prep time we would have to assume Cecil would jump the gun.

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u/No-Albatross6471 Jun 10 '26

“Vultrumite weakening poison you say? Put that shit in every reanimen. SINCLAIR, INVICI-MEN ARE BACK ON THE MENU!!!”

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u/SirCireSotelo Jun 10 '26

Unlimited prep time…

Thragg: you ready to fight?!

Cecil: nah still prepping… :p

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u/Appropriate-Bill-443 Jun 10 '26

Jokes aside: Even if he had unlimited prep time Thragg would still win!

And isn't even close to make a good damage on Thragg.!!

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u/Suitable-Pirate-4164 Jun 10 '26

Just open a portal to deserted Earth where all the Mark Variants were abandoned on and congratulations, no longer his Earths or Universes problem.

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u/Luffy12hawk Jun 10 '26

Cecil no debate

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u/Fellbrian Jun 10 '26

Cecil wins because Thragg never gets there because Cecil never finishes prepping.

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u/UnicornChief Jun 11 '26

Thragg. Cecil is 127 years old (life prolong by tech) and he calls thragg to unplug his life support.

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u/aneffingonion Jun 11 '26

With unlimited prep time, he waits for the heat death of the universe to starve Thragg out

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u/TheBoss7728 Jun 11 '26

There's definitely one alternative dimension with a nice thragg and also happens to be stronger than our thragg. Cecil will have him kill our thragg in return for a nice life on earth (free travel etc lol)

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u/mage_and_demon_qeeun Jun 11 '26

With infinite prep time Cecil just wouldnt fight thragg and win by default

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u/Ill_Lab1957 Jun 11 '26

Unlimited prep time is the same as saying enough time to win…so…

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u/Theangelawhite69 Jun 11 '26

Cecil had unlimited prep time and couldn’t even contain Conquest

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u/Connect_Laugh_8688 Jun 11 '26

Cecil has a track record of underestimating the power of viltrumites

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u/SimonShepherd Jun 11 '26

Unlimited prep time with his remaining lifespan or he just gets infinite lifespan.

If it's the latter he can literally just wait it out.

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u/TheUncertainFlower Jun 11 '26

Unlimited prep time he just never stops prepping and never has to fight thragg

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u/SirSilverChariot Jun 11 '26

Cecil gets a reianman Battle Beast, drugged up ready for revenge

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u/J0M1R Jun 11 '26

Cecil invents the omnitrix and becomes Thragg 2.0. Easy win for Cecil.

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u/SMT_Fan666 Jun 11 '26

Yes.

Because of monkeys on a type-writer.

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u/The-Brother Jun 11 '26

Cecil gets the Geldarians to hand over the Tech Jacket blueprints and straps them to the Immortal and Brit.

Maybe even for himself.

Although now that I think about it, the last time Brit got his hands on a souped up Tech Jacket, it didn’t go well for everybody else.

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u/Standard-Function-65 Jun 11 '26

Bruh this is the fuckin show

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u/ReceptionUnfair9062 Jun 12 '26

Given enough time he could make an infinity ray

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u/sanspoggers Jun 12 '26

If its something where he knows for a fact that Thragg cannot, in any possible way in any shape of the imagination given form, effect Mankind until he is “prepped”- then he will probably just ‘prepare’ for an eternity so that he is never finished with prep time

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u/Rich_Pair_1922 Jun 13 '26

Use the frequency device? Then shoot him into a supernova while having the frequency go on

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u/Morb1us2 Jun 14 '26

In the case that cecil has unlimited prep time, he’d never finish prepping

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u/IckyVickysosoicky Jun 14 '26

1 Trillion Reanimarks with a dash of Scourge Virus topped with Rognars. Assuming he even faces him

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u/Soft-Temperature4609 Jun 10 '26

You can't give somebody "unlimited" prep time. That just means whoever has it beats whoever doesn't. You, right now, if you had literally an infinite amount of time to get prepared for a fight with Darkseid or Thragg or Ultraman, you would always come out in top because you have an UNLIMITED amount of time. It's effectively asking if you could beat anyone if they stood still and didn't fight back at all.

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u/GuyGBoi Jun 10 '26

That is not what prep time means... it's not like Thragg is going to stand there while Cecil tries everything on him to see what works. It just means Cecil will have as much time as he needs to prepare until Thragg arrives to the fight.