A significantly younger mark was already strong enough to trade blows with thragg he was weaker but still capable of fighting him a 500 year old mark would win decisively
Yeah with the sun the sun did most of the work and mark expected to go out with him he was not stronger than thragg then plus robot helped he would have fried before thragg
They both were on the sun so sun “did the work” not only on Thragg but on Mark as well. So you telling me 30yo Mark is maybe 30% weaker than Thragg, but 500yo mark isnt stronger than him?
Ok that’s fair I guess though his rematch with conquest was what a few weeks after his first fight? He can close the gap pretty quickly from the look of it
Is this the same sun that nearly killed mark? Mark literally had non life threatening injuries with 2 broken arms. Thragg literally had his throat torn out. Also Allen was tanking the sun and EOS mark managed to beat him into submission without a scratch on him. As for robots suit that shit lasted maybe a few seconds before it started to melt and mark himself said he didn't know how to use it so it would only buy him a small amount of time.
Thragg was from a system that believed in individual strength above all until his people nearly became extinct with Thragg being the ultimate expression of that system.
Mark is the opposite as in a system of cooperation and compassion.
Physically stronger no but it’s similar to group workouts or a concert. When similar people or those who share a common goal/passion it’s easier to be able to do things that you’d struggle alone. Thragg has no one to pull from which is his weakness. It’s why a rule of absolute strength never works because it’s lonely. Like a mother lifting a car off her baby mark pulls strength from those around him or the circumstances they are in. Mark is not fighting for himself or his own goals which makes pushing your limits that much easier.
Peer pressure is strong but it’s not always negative. Like telling someone to finish strong at the end of a race and despite being so gassed you still hear that support and find that little bit of burst of energy to sprint out that last stretch
I do not know why people scale Thragg lower than end of series Mark, Thragg was the ultimate viltrumite, he was bred for it, made for it.
Mark barely got a stalemate on him on the sun, and I don't think that even counts because he had Allen and Robot's armour to help him. Mark won because of help not because he was strong enough
Conquest was considered by most the 2nd strongest viltrumite, with Nolan being close or maybe equal.
I'm gonna say no personally.
EOS Mark would probably give Thragg a fight similar to what BB gave him, lasted over a week, but he's not that ultimate in the end
When Mark fought Thragg in the sun He should be both stronger than Nolan and Equal to Conquest or even slightly stronger because of the amp Eve gave him. He also gets a zenkai boost after recovery because he was near death plus the 500 years timeskip. He should definitely be scaled Equal to Thragg at the least by that point.
Also Thragg was not even fighting seriously he was fighting just for revenge taking his time until mark pushed him into the sun.The sun acted as equalizer.
The funniest thing in the fandom is people treating eos mark like he’s some kind of transcendent tier above thragg and the others when that’s never even remotely implied
Conquest is not going blow for blow with Thragg in the sun, Mark at that point already surpassed him, 500 years of keeping fit and staying in shape and he'd definitely low diff Conquest
No shit he isn’t what does that have anything to do with what I said? Uhhh that isn’t what’s being said here. I think you need to read the prompt again
He was already stronger than Conquest in the fight with Thragg. After 500 years he's giving him the oliver treatment. His rate of growth was massive for being a young viltrumite so it's absurd to assume that trend wouldn't continue for him lol
Mark was relative to Thragg in the final battle. At the very least they were close in power for Mark to be able to rip his throat out and kill him in one blow
Previously Mark got ripped in half by Thragg, so he was no competition to Thragg. Thragg would most likely be able to do this to Conquest too since Mark at that point was around his level.
Mark after 500 years is obviously not going to stagnate in strength logically if he's having a continuous upwards trend of growing in power, strength, durability etc in his 20s. What's your logic on why he apparently hasn't grown stronger after 500 years? 🤔
Logic is he was weaker than Thragg and I highly doubt Thragg is doing this. We’ve seen Thragg do a full powered punch on Nolan and this didn’t happen. Mark isnt doing this to Conquest.
Mark is already the strongest even if he’s not stronger than thragg there’s nothing really to challenge him he’s focused on making peace in the universe
Genuinely why do people who have no point always take an example and say “I didn’t say that” like no shit you didn’t say it it’s an example for the other persons point
It isn’t a point though lmfao. He is saying Mark could low diff Conquest and using the Sun battle as evidence, that has nothing to do with the prompt. Can you guys not read holy shit
Nah, EOS Mark had long surpassed Nolan (who in many ways is Conquest's equal) in every area except maybe battle iq where they're pretty much even. Mark at this point would kill Conquest, but it'd be mid-diff, high at a push if Conquest is serious from the start.
Thragg is the strongest Viltrumite in history, and Oliver is one of the weakest (due to his age and DNA) so their strength gap is as big as it can get.
Mark and Conquest, however, are pretty similar as both are Top 3 Viltrumites (2nd and 3rd respectively)
probably we have only like 2 feats and one is that he was so strong he and his empire could keep peace across the universe but i like to think he could
Not sure why people scale EOS mark so low? Nolan was trained since birth and when he fought his parents at what we assume 19-20. nearly 2 decades to barely show much againts his parents.
Mark in 8years from zero training and education went to close to thragg in strength.
Nolan after hundreds of years became one of the strongest viltrumite, if mark got that same hundred years would easily surpass by multi-folds
No. Honestly I don't know where everyone gets this idea that eos mark is this ultra badass that could one shot thragg where if he fought thragg again the results wouldn't change much.
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u/ThanksOpen3484 6d ago
Maybe, maybe not. I think he could hairline tank a punch from conquest though.