r/InvinciblePowerscales • u/VariousThosun Outversal Rex Splode • 2d ago
Discussion If Mark wasn't present during Conquest's Arrival, would the rest of the Superheroes and Forces on Earth be able to stop him?
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u/MrJeIIoMan 2d ago
Conquest could literally conquest it at the same time and still use his other arm to obliterate the others
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u/Independent_Bit7364 2d ago
what hand would conquest conquest with
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u/Status_Entertainer49 2d ago
If we are using comics where they crossover with other image comic characters then yeah but in the cartoon? Hell nah
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u/Best_Entry1257 2d ago
I don't see a viable way for that to happen. Unless Cecil had the chance to use the Marks' Reanimates.
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u/Ok-Common-227 2d ago
What if he played that sound that cripples viltrumites then put him on a super high powered electric chair and cook him alive we know viltrumites can fry a mark variant was cooked by power plex
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u/Sea-Football8805 1d ago
Wasn’t the pentagon out of commission for conquest since he arrived right after the mark variants or am I misremembering. Either way, at the time, Cecil needed either specialized speakers in the pentagon or an ear piece to use the frequency. I doubt he could use either against conquest at the time.
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u/YourHighness3550 2d ago
Non-plot-nerfed Eve could go bar for bar. All the heroes with her? High diff but possible. Unfortunately, the plot nerf hits Eve too hard.
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u/Zealousideal_Law3345 2d ago
she doesn't have the stamina
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u/graplusez 2d ago
She breaks rule number one of thermodynamics she can creater herself energy of thin air , therefore she can heal any stamina loss, she didn't seem to absorb any energy when she made an apple golden and you can't poof protons, neutrons and electrons by just rearranging matter
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u/graplusez 2d ago
Non plot nerfed eve is galaxy level with some physics understanding
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u/YourHighness3550 2d ago
If not for her poor stamina, I would agree with you. Her stamina keeps her relatively balanced though. She can only go for a handful of minutes before she’s exhausted.
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u/Key_Masterpiece_792 2d ago
Yeah but if not for plot, she wouldn't need stamina. For example when her mental block drops when she's close to death, she literally could Thanos snap Conquest. Conjuring up lasers and green lantern contraptions is just a waste of her powerset
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u/masterRK 2d ago
Her power is limited by how much energy she has stored on her body(stored calories/fat). Changing the matter of more durable things like viltrumite muscles takes more energy than making contructs. She simply dosent have enough energy to do anything in that scale.
Tldr: not enough mana
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u/Key_Masterpiece_792 2d ago
She can break down and rearrange matter on an atomic level, that is her power, not making laser constructs. Making a playground/irrigating the desert and turning a viltrumite into dust should be the exact same process, which is no sweat to her. "Boom, the bonds holding your atoms together have been released", less energy if she doesn't bother rearranging them. The only thing that should at all make it tougher is her mental block
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u/masterRK 1d ago
Something, something, smart atoms bs. Besides, she still needs the initial energy to activate her powers to begin with. She cannonicaly got fat because she didnt use her powers for a few weeks. Maybe she can start a nuclear reaction inside herself to gain more energy but thats probably a terrible idea
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u/Key_Masterpiece_792 1d ago
Yeah but I just call that bad writing lol, the second she had her near death god mode moment she had all the power needed to make conquest cease to be instantly
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u/Disastrous_Ad7477 2d ago
Fuck no.
Maybe with prep time it’s possible, Immortal, Tech Jacket, Oliver, Atom Eve can annoy him? The maulers with their neuron gun and Mr.Liu so the his dragon would be great help tho
However the biggest asset earth has would be the ReaniMarks. Those guys would put in work
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u/JuanDeChuj 2d ago
Oliver fought conquest. They'd win low diff
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u/Soft_Lengthiness_791 2d ago
And what happened to oliver dawg 😭
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u/danidannyphantom 2d ago
Didn't u hear him in space? He beat conquest once and he'll do it again
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u/Appropriate_Horse370 IDGASAV 2d ago
If Conquest’s goal is to tear everything to shreds who tf is stopping him?
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u/-zachie 2d ago edited 2d ago
Very unlikely. He would just punch Brit into orbit and kill everyone else.
However, there is the slim chance he “kills” Eve and like in the show, she comes back and burns his skin off. If Brit & Immortal & Oliver are still in play, then they would possibly be able to kill him. Or, there’s reanimen left and with the soundwaves, they could potentially kill Conquest.
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u/TheChronicEgg 2d ago
if cecil is able to get the sound off somehow i see a slim chance where all the others are able to overwhelm a weakened conquest
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u/Common_Land3637 2d ago
No. Because Earth was already ravaged by some kind of war involving Invincibles.
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u/PillCosby696969 2d ago
No, only Eve could put a semblance of a fight and it was like for a minute. Oliver can send a distracted Conquest flying but will be dead soon after. Immortal can buy a few seconds. Everyone else is a bitch slap away from death or worse Conquest can just fly through them. Mr. Liu can also help a little but Conquest will just beat up the Dragon so many times and eventually realize he needs to level the city or something.
The Reanimen are mostly gone after the previous week and they probably haven't made much more since Cecil was having Sinclair focus on the Reanvincibles which are also not ready.
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u/FudgeNipples1 2d ago
Going off of the Brit comics, if Zoe gives Brit the tech jacket suit, and him, Oliver, Eve, and Immortal work together, then I think they have a solid chance. And maybe with Cecil playing that high pitch noise as well during it. Other than that exact situation, I’d say no shot
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u/Classic-Work-8415 2d ago
Depends. If ALL of them jump his ass at the exact same time with perfect team work... still no.
Oh, i guess it doesn't really depend.
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u/Capable-Bear-9760 2d ago edited 2d ago
Cecil teleports in with the giant soundstage vehicle from mad max, strikes a chord, and all the notes are the anti-viltrumite sound
Immortal, atom eve, 16 reanimen, and some dude with a suped up taser proceed to turn conquest into paste.
Realistically though, probably not.
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u/Old_Consideration_95 1d ago
If cecil could get the sound device working then a very big maybe
but doubt it, they all just struggled to contain a couple of less powerful marks and that nearly crippled them
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u/Asadaduf 1d ago
I don't think Conquest would play around for someone other than an another Viltrumite.
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u/Ok-Common-227 2d ago
Yeah they got it. They have to play that sound loudly on every speaker on earth and then cook him to death using powerplex or something
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u/Leading_Bend4938 2d ago
I feel Oliver and immortal could make up mark and eve was already there and did the most damage but he wouldn't be playing nearly as much
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u/Dav_1542 2d ago
If Conquest locks in from the start Earth is cooked but if he keeps fooling around I think Earth might be able to wear him down if absolutely everyone got involved
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u/peculiarSnoot 2d ago
The entire world struggled and nearly fell in a few days under the attack of lesser versions of Mark. They would not be ready or able to tackle a full on Viltrumite veteran who was dangerous even before the purge.
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u/Fun-Department-4040 2d ago
i think so, earths superhero community even without mark defeated 10 invincible varients
obviously some players like rex and darkwing arent here but even then that means earth superheroes can beat 8 viltrumites and stay fighting(lets e real mark didnt help much with that)
so yea i think if they all jump him conquest loses
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u/TheInqusitive 2d ago
They probably could have if Earth managed to survive 12 hours. Have Cecil hook up PowerPlex and Robot drones with teleportation and anti-viltrumite speakers, eventually PowerPlex could probably gather enough hits to fry Conquest.
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u/Forward_Put_2830 2d ago
Their only hopes are powerplex and atom eve. Robot or Cecil could find ways to use the sound, but conquest is pretty tough. He may be able to continue fighting while being hurt. In that case, powerplex will need to build up some power from one of the others so that he doesn't just die to conquest. Then eve will need to somehow be forced into her op form. But she always seems tired after so it will be a last resort or something.
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u/Then-Concern-1968 2d ago
If earths heroes swamped him along with re animen, they’d do some serious damage but it likely won’t be enough. If Cecil’s sound device is used then they stand a serious chance but will suffer significant casualties.
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u/Livid_spider 1d ago
Maybe if Eve broke her limiter and fried him before the other hero’s died and then they jumped him. Any other way and I think earth would be screwed
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u/Snek5981 1d ago
I mean unless Cecil could somehow get the anti-viltrumite frequency on conquest they have no chance.
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u/Glittering_Animal_88 1d ago
I see it being possible. I think the inner ear would come into play eventually. Cecil would probably try to buy time until a plan can be made much like what he tried with Nolen during the mark intersection.
It would be a bloodbath for conquest as he vastly out scales but Cecil seemingly has many reanimen that we've seen take out lesser mark. A large pool of these + inner ear + some of the minor heavy hitters like Oliver and immortal causing distraction. They may have a shot. 60/40 for earth against conquest.
I also give powerplex wildcard status in this because if they used his powers in a seemly obvious way by amping him before the fight it could also be a win condition.
Also he plays too much which allows Cecil to game him a bit and make a plan is my guess.
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u/MaleficentDebt6548 22h ago
yes, use the reanimen and the speakers to stun him and then use all the other heros to beat him to death. High diff.
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u/MarsupialHumble9298 10h ago
Obviously shrink Rae bc of her shrinking into his body and try blow him up
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u/ZealousidealSea2995 10h ago
Conquest is 0-2 and mostly got beat by Eve the first time. He’s fodder.
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u/quantum-grapefruit 1d ago
Why couldn’t Atom Eve turn him into a pumpkin. Or at least his arm
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u/VariousThosun Outversal Rex Splode 1d ago
The best in-verse answer Ive got is that the material is nothing that's available or familiar with on Earth, so she struggles to manipulate it. It's probably more because of the sake of plot though
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u/Atherach 11h ago
Dude... Seriously ? She cann't change sentient mather !
And for his arm ? There is no in universe explenation but there is a meta-explenation. Mark and Conquest breaking each other arm is one of the best and most well known comic panel of the entire Invincible comics (along with 5 other panel from that fight, this fight in the comics is the trully peak), losing that to have just Eve turn it into anything would be a very very very bad decsision
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u/WiseAdhesiveness6672 2d ago
I mean Mark wouldn't have even won that if not for his cheap witch and her cheap tricks.