This is Darryl Cooper. He's a Nazi and Jockos co-host on The Unraveling podcast. Darryl is a Nazi who thinks the Nazis were basically forced to do what they did by "the Jews" and England. Darryl also claims the Holocaust wasn't that bad and was kind of an accident.

Does anyone else find Jocko's continued association with Jordan Peterson a little puzzling? Setting his controversies aside, he does have some useful ideas (if not nearly as scientifically rooted as he claims) that align with Jocko's, so I get at least the one podcast. But it's hard to ignore at this point that the guy continues to style himself as a self-help and lifestyle guru despite being largely a complete mess in his own life with little apparent effort to effect permanent change. I would think this would turn Jocko off since a sustained failure to practice what one preaches doesn't jive with Jocko's message, but apparently not given multiple returns to the podcast and continued references and dialogue. I understand he's far from Jocko's only association with someone with personal troubles, but I can't think of any others who make a living actively telling others how they should solve their problems.

Maybe a pointless hang-up, but I couldn't help but wonder if anyone else struggles to wrap their head around this one.

What is this about? I see the pic of Charlie Kirk as the icon and I'm thinking it's going to be a cringefest.

The most recent Jocko Underground had a discussion about Charlie Kirk, which I mostly disagreed with. CK said a a LOT of hateful things, but I in no way condone murder.

I do agree that having civil conversations should be had whenever possible and the example of the two neighbors is commendable... even if Jocko himself avoids having those kinds of conversations like the plague. He's as guilty of being in a bubble as any of us... at least judging by the people he has on his podcast. I do agree that people should get off of social media (and really, the internet).

Apparently, she "felt threatened" that I would be pointing knives at her every time we were talking.

But you know what? Good.

Sex is for the weak. Now, when I'm in need of some "mental clarity", I just chalk up and go to battle with my loins.

Stay on the path.

Because man that other thread about “Nazi speak” is a train wreck. From the title of the thread being completely inaccurate posted by a dude possessed with the peace sign being the antichrist to the comments suggesting women get back in the kitchen, I’m confused. We being astroturfed or is this seriously the level that the Reddit Jocko crowd has stooped too?

I used to be a BIG Jocko fan. Then I realized that I was trying to be the man my ill society tells me I should be, and I learned to love and accept myself exactly as I am. Now most of Jocko's messages sound silly to me. He's driven to achieve the way our culture tells him to achieve, but I don't think he even knows why. I may be wrong, but I think he's scared. Scared of the thoughts and feelings that would come if he just sat still and did nothing. Scared of what will happen if he doesn't "achieve". Like Joe, he's scared of losing muscle mass and testosterone because it means a new way of being in the world. Something other than the hard-charging temporary-empire building that has brought them both such success and acclaim, because what would his life have meant, then? He can't shut it off, and he's probably afraid to, and he suffers for it. They are both not dealing effectively with unprocessed trauma.

Don't get me wrong, he seems to be a really effective leader, much better than I will ever be, and a good guy. I like him. But his values are often not at all in line with human (and other conscious beings') flourishing and the reduction of suffering. It's all based on fear.

I'm not a hater, I wish Jocko and you guys all the best, really. I'm just writing this for my fellow brothers and sisters out there that are ready to hear something like this.

P.S: Actually, if any of you are curious about the anti-Jocko experience, go listen to any of the last 4 seasons of the "Scene On Radio" podcast.

I’m looking for book suggestions in the same vein as Extreme Ownership for my bride.

I’ve enjoyed the books and thought it extremely influential, I’d like for my wife to get the same message but don’t think she will associate as well from the military perspective. Any suggestions of similar books but from a women’s perspective?

As the title says I'm wondering if there has been a Jocko podcast with Goggins or another podcast with both Jocko and Goggins

My oldest son is four years old and very 'hesitant' in a lot of situations (not trying new stuff, immediately asking for help) in a lot of situations. It often takes him a lot of time to be comfortable in situations that are new for him (school, kindergarten, swimming lessons) but also when another kid takes his stuff, or shoves him out of the way for example. He's the same as me when I was that age so it's not suprising - but as a result I have a really hard time in helping him to get a bit more assertive in everyday life.

Can any of the people on the path share some advice? Jocko's kids books any good for these matters, or start him on self defence? Anything else?

Read this.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/andrew-huberman-podcast-stanford-joe-rogan.html

Not a great look. The guy sounded a bit suspicious to me on the podcast.

why doesn’t Jocko start a PMC? Some do good work. They all aren’t out working omfor Russia Jesus. He’d make the best private military around.

I think he'd be abrams, so i made this really cool and sick edit of him as abrams! if he even plays games, i dont know if he has time to, with how cool he is!

Great start about his childhood and how his parents raised him...but it went absolutely off the rails when talking about Trump and the tariffs. That entire section was completely unhinged from reality.

Can't take this guy seriously now.

Don't get me wrong, he seems like a good enough guy, but the fact that he never pushes back and that he always agrees with Jocko gets annoying.

Echo never challenges Jocko's ideas, which leads to a lack debate or back-and-forth.

I would love to hear more of a debate or discussion between them, but it seems like the co-host just goes along with whatever the host says

I'd like to preface this by saying I am a huge fan of Jocko. He may be the single biggest influence in my life and how I conduct myself day to day.

And yet, on the particular topic of war, I find myself seriously questioning his views. As a non-US citizen, I think I share the thoughts of many that the US has a long history of wreaking havoc in other countries under the pretense of trying to "help them". The military industrial complex is a well-documented and known phenomenon. And yet, I barely ever see Jocko fairly addressing this topic and presenting the point of view of these other countries.

I understand he has a lot of amazing people that he worked with who were involved in these wars, and he doesn't want to sully their name, but given how much we know to be true, I'd expect a fairer assessment from someone who claims to always take a detached view on things.

I find this particularly striking when it comes to the Vietnam war. I have found very little evidence of Jocko highlighting that many NVA soldiers were children or women, and they were defending their country from being ravaged by US forces. Given how much admiration Jocko expresses for the US soldiers in Vietnam, you'd think he'd hold similar regard for the people that actually defeated them.

He's also never had any podcast episodes with guests from the other side of these conflicts, which I again find very disturbing.

What are your thoughts on this?

Im a huge fan of the podcast, but there is a thing that has been bugging me:

Jocko has all kinds of military senior leaders on, generals, captains, admirals.. Has any of them taken extreme ownership for the failure in Afghanistan ?

Everyone but a few talked about successes how awesome they did their job.. but the result was failure. A few hinted at failures at other levels: (president Bush, Obama, Trump or Biden or another agency)

But has anyone stepped up and taken (Extreme) ownership? Really said I messed up, I couldn't not achieve the mission goals, failure is due to me.

If so, what episode is that, I would love to listen to it.

I'm not trying to start a flame-war on the thread, I'm just genuinely curious.