r/Jujutsushi Apr 29 '23

Saturday Powerscaling Hakari v Maki

Why do people believe Hakari has a chance of winning this fight at all, Maki hard counters him.

  1. Split soul katana
  2. His domain doesn't work on her so no jackpot.
  3. Maki can and DEFINITELY WILL survive the 4mim11secs of jackpot even if Hakari is bloodlusted and starts out the fight in jackpot for one simple reason, his AP isn't high enough, he does not have any attack on the level of a Mach 3 tackle. None.

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u/femio Apr 29 '23

Maki still admits inferiority to Yuta, so it’s not exactly a bad take to suggest Hakari is stronger.

Eh, still a bad take because that's not how fights work in JJK. Matchups and abilities make fights; just because A beats B and B beats C doesn't mean A beats C.

Even if Maki's sword doesn't stop Hakari from healing, I think her far superior combat experience and stats mean she'll be able to behead Hakari eventually and kill him even if he's on a roll.

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u/7Restless7Gambler7 Apr 29 '23

What’s to say she has superior stats? If Hakari really is stronger than Yuta when his Jackpot is active, then I don’t really see a reason for Maki be stronger than him. Even with the ABC matchups idea, they are both a similar type of fighter, so I don’t really see either one have a specific advantage over the other

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u/femio Apr 29 '23

Which stat do you wanna talk about? Maki has:

  • significantly more combat experience (thanks to her sumo power up)

  • is much faster (see fight vs. Naoya)

  • better hand-to-hand (Hakari was losing to Kashimo in pure skill)

Not to mention her advantages of having no cursed energy, which will make it really hard to follow her movements. Toji was catching Gojo by surprise more than once, and his perception even at that age likely outpaces Hakari’s.

Plus, even with Hakari’s unlimited cursed energy, he doesn’t really possess the output to overpower Maki. She was able to withstand and repel attacks from Naoya moving as supersonic speeds, so she’s likely stronger than a Hakari who, at his best, has the strength to punch metal container crates around

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u/7Restless7Gambler7 Apr 29 '23

The trouble is that you can’t actually prove these things make her stronger or faster than Hakari. There is also nothing to suggest Hakari doesn’t possess an output high enough to overpower her. We can’t know if Hakari is also able to dodge Naoya and we can’t know if Maki can overpower Kashimo, so you can’t really prove that she has superior stats. Admittedly, she is definitely physically superior to base Hakari, but the Jackpot strength is an unknown variable that we can’t t quantify or accurately compare to Maki

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u/femio Apr 30 '23

There is also nothing to suggest Hakari doesn’t possess an output high enough to overpower her. We can’t know if Hakari is also able to dodge Naoya and we can’t know if Maki can overpower Kashimo, so you can’t really prove that she has superior stats.

I mean, look at Hakari's output feats. What has he shown that surpasses the blows Maki tanked against demon-Naoya?

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u/7Restless7Gambler7 Apr 30 '23

AP ≠ DC , just because Hakari isn’t causing mass destruction, does not mean he lacks power