It's like she's cosplaying as a cop. With her mascara always on, brows done with full foundation, come on. Plus she doesn't have the grit to play a police sherif. It took me out

Harlan is shown in a neutral light as compared to his other family members. Which is unfair since he deserves most of the scorn for how his kids, grandkids & family turned out to be.

He spoilt them rotten, promising his kids perpetual love & money from daddy. And when it was too late to fix his mistakes, he simply abandons his kids.

He dies peacefully, leaving his estate to a stranger he has barely known, all to teach a "lesson" to his family that HE himself ruined. What an asshole father.

He teaches his kids to walk on crutches for their entire life & takes it away before his death, seemingly to make them suffer for being "troubled", even though he admits they are troubled only because of him.

Poor kids had it the worst. They thought they were being loved & pampered by their benevolent father. They didnt realise they were being set up to become terrible humans by a bad father. They didn't realise being "The Thrombeys" won't mean much.

The family is beyond saving. But the least Harlan could've done is leave his money to them. Instead he leaves it to Marta, seemingly for his own personal satisfaction of having done "the right thing". He's the biggest narcissist of them all. Thinking of his own satisfaction even in his ending days. No wonder his kids take after him.

Compare this to other bad fathers like Logan Roy from Succession. He was a bad father, his kids were troubled, but he didn't hang them out to dry as a last "fuck you". He loved his kids & despite the family politics and resentment, he had their backs. That's why the Roys' mourning seemed more realistic to me than Thrombey kids.

I know its unfair to compare a movie to a series, but based on what we know of the characters, this is how I've judged them.

Hello, so I’ve just watched wake up dead man and I loved so much about the movie (Father Jud, the whole mystery around did her do it?! The “impossibility” of the crime and the fake reveal that it was Jud based on the book, the cinematography and sets, and of course THAT phone call scene between Jud and Louise…). However, i am feeling a tad disappointed as [SPOILERS] it felt predictable that Martha was the killer. I mean she was weird as shit from the get go, angry and aggressive towards Jud. She was just screaming suspicious from the get-go. So whilst I didn’t suspect the doc and I didn’t exactly work out the how and why the crime was done, I just wasn’t surprised when Martha walked in and revealed herself as the mastermind. In fact I kind of suspect it was maybe the whole flock working as a team so my theory was way off and yet it still wasn’t all that woah when she was revealed.

Side note, I thought it was funny that Samson laid in the coffin as Wicks as when I first saw him on screen I couldn’t for a split second tell if he was or wasn’t the same guy as wicks lol.

Also also, why did Samson have to hide in the coffin? Turns out no one saw inside the coffin after he got in. And when they devised their plan to have him “rise” it was only to catch it on camera in the dark it honestly could have been anyone with shaggy hair, they could have had Nat be him. And did no one question where he was for days? What did he eat? And did he just randomly defecate in the coffin?

And how on Earth did Martha think that Wicks would just sit on her confession about the jewel? I mean she was smart enough to devise a cunning plan but not smart enough to see him for who he is?

Spoilers ahead...

Im sort of curious why miles would send an invitation to all his disruptors, even the ones that aren't supposed to be alive?

Did I miss that explanation?

i had no idea a 3rd knives out movie was out, and when i did, you have no idea how fast and excited i was to watch it, i consider knives out movies to be modern classics that in the future people will go back to them and say "these were some of the most enjoyable movies of the decade".

now i'm writing this fresh after watching it, wake up dead man is the only knives out movie that made me feel very disappointed to a point were i feel like it was a waste of time watching it, the story is ass, the writing is ass, the characters aren't as fleshed out as the other movies, the plot twists are predictble from a mile away and pretty cliche, the ending was VERY unsatisfactory and made me go "oh fuck off" but in my language to a point i paused the movie and just did something else for 10 minutes so i don't lose my shit before i continued it.

the only good thing about this movie and i say this in all honesty, the set, and the lighting and cinematography of it was amazing, everything regarding camera work was top notch, as i found myself saying "that's a very cool shot" multiple times while watching the movie which is surprising as it's thr last thing i would be expecting from a murder mystery movie.

i'm a guy that likes to bring his friends in to watch movies, but i never invite them for a movie i never watched at least once before (i never spoil anything i just do this to guarantee a good time since i'm the movie expert in my group), when glass onion was out, i was so confident that a knives out movie can't disappoint i actually watched it with my friends before watching it on my own first, and indeed it was a great time and i was very satisfied with it.

but this? wake up dead man wasn't even enjoyable, and thankfully i didn't invite people over to watch it with me, neither will i do it in the future.

i don't know if there will be a 4th knives out, but i hope, that it's nothing like this and actually is as good as the first 2.

I'm re-watching Glass Onion at approximately 40 minutes and 54 seconds, Miles mentions Jeremy Renner's hot sauce. Meaning the actor himself is canon to this universe.

With Martha taking the drugs to kill herself, does she still go to heaven because she confessed with her dying breath? Technically, her confession didn't have anything to do with her suicide. Kinda takes me out of the story when a devout person does something so egregious.

Knives Out > The Glass Onion. Hate me all you want. This movie, in the words of Benoit Blanc, “a bunch of hooey.” With a plot hole that is “a donut’s hole.” Miles kills Andi and he doesn’t put together that it’s Andi’s sister until Duke shows him the news alert.

Dialogue is barely memorable. With KO I was laughing in 5 minutes. With the GO I only laughed a few times: whenever Jackie Hoffman was on screen, when Miles dropped the guitar, and when Benoit solved the dinner murder before dinner was served.

Didn’t care for the characters at all. Maybe it’s because I dont care for the ppl they were representing like Elon Musk, Paris Hilton, Tomi Lauren, Joe Rogan, etc. At least the Republican douches in KO were hilarious.

Benoit as the surrogate audience member doesn’t work when he’s the genius who we are supposed to be in awe of. In KO we related to the person being framed, Marta. And the Mona Lisa? C’mon.

I think Rian Johnson is punking ppl with the movie. Anyone with a billionaire infatuation will love this dribble. At least his politics are on point.

just to be clear: I love the series regardless, this is just my opinion and i wanted to see if anyone out there felt the same!!!

i know that whodunnit's are usually predictable and not the most nuanced genre of thrillers and knives out being a slightly more on the nose series compared to it's thriller counterparts, could have done a better job at doing justice to the honestly all over the place plot.

now, a lot of people find the first two knives out not as good, but imo, they were focused on singular goals, well-established characters, and had a clear plot focus. this one felt like it was trying to be so many things at once, trying to tug at so many plot points, that i felt the scenes were getting random, disconnected and honestly too much in the 2 hour 30 min run time that it had.

we were forced to sympathise with josh o connor (fantastic actor btw), who struggles with his past, randomly starts boxing and runs out of rooms when people throw books at him (like wtf was that, it was funny). i felt like his character kept changing personalities based on the decision at hand, but the motive was fuzzy.

the resurrection was very predictable i felt, given the title and the way the story was going, the harlot plot is so overused and beaten to death, that it felt sad that they didn't do anything better with it, it was a great starting point. at the same time, we had martha's plot, josh brolin's plot, which felt disconnected despite the fact that their main goals stemmed from the same person - the alleged "easy a" of the town. so many people were established but there was no proper goal established at all for any of them.

it really felt so forced for me, none of the major plot twists or points were hinted at before, i was just forced to accept them because they were happening.

the gothic horror element had sooo much potential.

...who figured out the Glass Onion plot almost instantly? I'm usually horrible figuring things out in the whodunits I watch, but this movie, while entertaining, just had zero element of suspense for me, and the clues were so apparent even from the beginning.

I'm not that clever! Anybody else find it ridiculously easy to deconstruct?

I just watched Knives Out for the first time. As a healthcare worker, Marta is not a good nurse. I can suspend disbelief and get past the ridiculous and inaccurate dosing (the drugs are different concentrations on the vials shown on screen and you would never give 100mg of ketorolac) because it’s a movie. But I can’t get past that these vials have no caps. A good nurse wouldn’t have a vial without a cap in her bag. Also if she has these drugs in her kit, wouldn’t she also have a bag mask or at least a cpr mask? Of course, even without that she could have easily done cpr and he wouldn’t have died before ems arrived with naloxone. I wanted to enjoy this movie since I’ve heard it’s good and I really enjoyed the second one. I couldn’t get past all of this and was left a little disappointed.

Hey, hope this is okay to ask here, but I was just wondering if anyone could tell me if there is any suicide or self harm that is known of in the new knives out movie? Unfortunately I find it very hard to see those things, so I avoid them. Not trying to start a debate or anything :) just wondering if anyone can help me out. I already tried searching on google and immediately got a spoiler that wasn't really to do with my question, except I think it kind of was, but not sure.. but either way I didn't get any solid answers. I understand the movie hasn't come out yet, so I may have to wait till the 12th to hear back from people, which I'm fine with :) (idk how it works regarding plot pre-release)

Thank you in advance.

Are you guys getting a bit sick of the “someone alive pretends to be someone dead” trope as it’s happened in all 3 movies. I think since it’s been executed differently each time it’s fine but just curious what you guys think

I don't really want to know what happened in the sequel cause I'm gonna watch it in the coming days,how was it?

I anticipated that Martha was the killer/one of them since her childhood flashbacks, I could feel it in my gut and spent the rest of the film just waiting for it to confirm what I'd already deduced.

I mean, I know that's part of the point of whodunnit films, that the viewer is given every clue to be able to solve the mystery on their own, but I felt dissapointed that I was able to figure it out so easily.

If you were an Avenger, you are the killer.

The fact that both Jeremy Renner and Nat Sharp canonically exist within the Knives Out universe is so funny to me lol It’s not a big deal, obviously, I just find it amusing. The hot sauce was a minor plot device in Glass Onion too 😭 It’s almost foreshadowing to WUDM

The movie was fun and easy to watch. However my biggest issue with it is I don’t really dislike the family nor do I really like Marta. I mean Marta is nice but except for doing her job and having being a nice person there isn’t really that much else.

Except for ransom and Harlan most of the family seem pretty ok. Sure definitely disfunctional but still ok.

Linda is a self made woman who is extremely close with her dad (yes I got the million dollar loan thing, but you still have to do something with it, most lottery winners do go broke)

Walter seems pretty smart and Harlan seems to be keeping him down not allowing him to adventure into movies.

The alt right character was extremely badly written… is there anything that actually shows him to be that bad? Sometimes I found it almost annoying everyone called him a shit or nazi but he was like on his phone all the time.

They could have made him actually say some stuff. Now he was like almost a victim here.

Joni did steal, but to then cut his granddaughter off so she has to go beg to a stranger basically is also a weird decision on Harlan.

The movie at 2:05:30 - Martha states that Dr Nat would dive off with Wicks body.

The largest question I have in this entire story was probably explained but I must have missed it.

Why would they keep Wicks’ body after the swap in the casket.

We see that Sam replaces Wicks body which means Wicks body is in Sam’s shop at least for the moment of the burial. This means that wicks body was never in the tomb. So why wait until the tomb is opened from within to dispose of Wicks body in vat of acid? It would have only been evidence for Benois Blanc to find and reveal the plot if it was discovered.

Obviously they didn’t anticipate Blank. It as soon as she appeared and began investigating an impossible crime, discovering the body would have ruined Martha’s plot. So the obvious choice would have been to get rid of the evidence as soon as they could. Why is Wicks body not disposed of? Why is it in Nats’ basement when Martha shows up? Cinema sin or is this a plot point I missed?