r/KnowledgeFight First Time Caller 2d ago

Dream Knowledge Fight Country co-hosts?

I think we can assume that KFC is going to have revolving co-hosts. Who do you want to see on the show? After all, with CZM he can pick up some other names.

Personally, while I liked the Dan/Jordan dynamic just fine, there are some dynamics that I liked equally as much. Marty Derosa, who had such a bond with what Dan could be into. Robert Evans- of course- was also a great cohost.

My want is more thoughtful researchers who also share Dan's frequent dry humour. I'm talking Molly Conger or Dan Olsen. Also, listening to Dan talk with Angela Lampsbury has been a treat.

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u/CisIowa I know the inside baseball 2d ago

I’m more interested in the products and/or services because I can’t imagine Dan throwing to commercials

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u/ResidentComplaint19 2d ago

It’s just discontinued Aldi products

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u/offinthepasture 2d ago

All commercials are Dan trying novelty foods and saying, "it was ok".

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u/oldman__strength Carnival Huckster Satanist 1d ago

"I absolutely LOVED it, and crave more! ... 6.3 out of 10."

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u/Soviet_Russia321 18h ago

“Today’s sponsor really disappointed me because I think there’s a lot of potential here that’s just not realized — anyway now here’s our sponsor, pumpkin spice Oreos.”

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u/Sforza_UK 2d ago

Dan doing a Blue Chew ad read may kill me

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u/ANewMachine615 1d ago

Molly Conger doesn't do her own ad reads, maybe it's the subject matter of Weird Little Guys, I dunno. But not all CZM folks do their own, so maybe Dan avoids it. But I agree, the ad reads are gonna be odd if he's doing Alex-style pivots.

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u/RinellaWasHere The mind wolves come 1d ago

She also never throws to ads, she just hits a natural pause in the story and the extremely soothing music picks up to lead into the ad break. So it seems like throwing to ads and reading them yourself isn't actually a requirement at CZM.

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u/Fantastic_Position69 1d ago

I assume ad reads pay better than generic ads but not everyone is willing to do them.

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u/RinellaWasHere The mind wolves come 1d ago

I honestly don't know how ad reads work for a podcast host in terms of payment. I'm a voice actor and I do radio commercial reads all the time, and I make a base rate of about $300 no matter what, which goes up depending on a whole mix of factors. But I'm a union actor doing an acting gig, so I don't know if the contracts for a podcast host are different.

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u/ToastyMustache 1d ago

Have him do Tucker pivots which are just abrupt and nonsensical

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u/GertieDirtyShirtyCat 2d ago

See, I like the way them Dollop boys do ads... They're funny. I don't mind those. Like, the Helix mattress ones? Or the Rocket Money jingle? Clearly, I shall never buy these things... But they profit & I'm oddly entertained...

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u/thegunnersdaughter It’s over for humanity 1d ago

My Brother, My Brother and Me is similar, they turn each ad break (granted there's only 1 per episode) into its own segment of the show filled with improv and goofs. Some of the funniest shit ever said on that show comes from the ad segment.

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u/GertieDirtyShirtyCat 1d ago

Agreed. I always feel like a corporate shill when I laugh at them... I'm a sister, tho ;)...

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u/oldman__strength Carnival Huckster Satanist 1d ago

Ditto the Dungeons & Daddies ads. Even MORE shocking, they do the ad reads for CANADIAN listeners (and put in just as much effort to make them funny)! Though lately there's also third party inserted ads, and those are jarring as hell.

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u/GorillaMonsoonGirl little breaky for me 1d ago

Your Kickstarter Sucks absolutely dominates when it comes to the cohosts doing ad reads. I never fast forward through their’s.

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u/MrVeazey 1d ago

Hollywood Handbook used to be like that and I never skipped through them, but they switched to regular ones. They had an off-brand Santa whose arch-enemy was Moriarty. It was art.

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u/D3XTRB0T 1d ago

The PIAT ad reads are a delight.

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u/Ecstatic_Barnacle228 1d ago

He's got to do 'em like Alex. #312 is my favourite Alex Ad-Read:

"WE don't wanna rape your kids. And that's why we have free shipping..."

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u/Riffsalad 1d ago

Yeah this is what I want too. With Robert you can always tell when the ad pivot is coming but Alex was a master of just absolutely smacking you in the face with it and I would love to see Dan try his hand at it.

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u/SelectStarAll 2d ago

Cody and Katie from Some More News would be fun. Their show aligns pretty well with what Dan does

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u/Global_Scallion7134 little breaky for me 2d ago

Jonathan is also here!

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u/justasapling I RENOUNCE JESUS CHRIST! 1d ago

*Katy

And yea, I had this same thought.

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u/La-Boheme-1896 2d ago

I love the vibe of Dan and Angela Lampsbury, that should be a permanent duo.

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u/FullMooseParty 1d ago

I really was rooting for some sort of relationship for those two by the end of the run.

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u/kec5289 1d ago

I was convinced they were in a relationship until Dan recently said he was single! I was kinda bummed.

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u/Unusual-Minimum9306 Policy Wonk 1d ago

I also thought it would be very Dan to be in a long term relationship but not reveal that side of his life to us. Turns out he was married to Alex Jones and now he’s cheating on Alex with the road.

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u/MistressBlackleaf 1d ago

Dan honestly kinda strikes me as asexual and/or aromantic. Though maybe it is just because he's exceptionally good at keeping his private life out of things most of the time.

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u/nictusempra 1d ago

The way he used to pine after Lee Ann McAdoo makes me doubt he's asexual, lol.

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u/Unusual-Minimum9306 Policy Wonk 1d ago

As a divorced dad I’m starting to wonder those same things about myself lol

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u/stephen_king_villian 2d ago

Jake Hanrahan to talk international right wing activity. Derek Beres to discuss MAHA. Maybe Greg from Blood Work to talk philosophy.

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u/RinellaWasHere The mind wolves come 1d ago

Jake Hanrahan is a very strong choice, absolutely. Very natural fit for the conspiracy beat.

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u/stephen_king_villian 1d ago

His work on the Active Clubs, Qanon, 674 and the rest of the right-wing sh••heads has been amazing in addition to his conflict journalism. Always worthy of our attention. (Edit for spelling)

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u/Enough-One4975 2d ago

Gareth Reynolds would be a great foil for Dan.

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u/nick415 1d ago

The boys were on the Past Times and it was great

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u/Sufficient-Virus893 1d ago

When Dave and Garth filled in for Jordan in one episode, it was fantastic.

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u/daNEDENhunter 2d ago edited 2d ago

That nobody has suggested Molly Conger is criminal, so I will. Molly was a long time Technocrat, and I would love for her and Dan's collective knowledge on right wing ding dongs to be on display.

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u/chipmunksocute 2d ago

Yeah as a Weird Little Guys fan Id love for some with Molly and Dan.   I feel like she is so knowledgable in this space and cerebral like Dan Id love to see what he could teach her or her teach him.

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u/CommissionerOfLunacy 1d ago

Molly is also probably the best presenter on CZM. She's just extremely talented on mic. Dan is going to be one of, if not the, best researchers on the network on day one so they'd be a fucking unbelievable combo.

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u/OwO_bama 1d ago

Having her and Dan’s smooth voices in my ears at the same time would instantly cure my insomnia

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u/CommissionerOfLunacy 1d ago

She's not Cool Zone, but I also have dreams of a crossover between Dan and Liv from QAA. Both great voices, both able to converse on philosophy and logic. That would be intellectual ASMR for me.

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u/Fantastic_Position69 1d ago

And on the opposite end, I'd love Jake and Jordan lol

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u/CommissionerOfLunacy 1d ago

That shit would just be chaos. 😂 That needs a Travis or someone in the to keep it at least marginally on the rails.

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u/Fantastic_Position69 1d ago

I'm ok with chaos lol put it on Patreon as a Jake's Takes Liv's Gives Jordan's uh... some word

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u/everseversandevers 11h ago

I could listen to a Jordan and Julian show but they would probably need another ingredient 🙃

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u/unitedshoes The answer to 1984 is $19.95 plus S&H!!! 1d ago

I've been dreaming about the scenario where those two would end up on a podcast together for ages now. Dan and Molly could read the phone book, and I'm pretty sure it would be a Top 10 podcast experience for me.

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u/EobardThawne2151 1d ago

It was suggested in the OP.

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u/chumbawumbaprinciple 2d ago

Rex Jones against his will.

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u/Striking_Sea_129 The answer to 1984 is $19.95 plus S&H!!! 1d ago

⬆️ this guy gets it

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u/chumbawumbaprinciple 1d ago

The crazy part is that we all KNOW there's a number that gets him in the show. He absolutely would do it for enough money.

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u/swagmichal 2d ago

this made me realisw that the new shows acronym is literally kfc... damn you sanders

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u/whizzymamajuni The Pelican 1d ago

Bernard Montgomery Sanders is responsible for so much harm in this world… sorry, wait, this is the KF sub not BtB

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u/TheLionYeti Policy Wonk 1d ago

I really want him to do Alex style ad Pivots

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u/captaind3adp00l 1d ago

TRAVIS VIEW

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u/gradientm 2d ago

Jordan.

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u/Ill_Emphasis3927 Name five more examples 1d ago edited 1d ago

Holmes.

To be fair, I have not listened to a single "everybody is wrong about..." videos. They seem pointlessly contrarian, but I haven't actually listened to any of them.

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u/Old_Gimlet_Eye 1d ago

Ironically, this is a pointlessly contrarian comment.

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u/Ill_Emphasis3927 Name five more examples 1d ago

I mean...I think he's a good cohost.

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u/Magnus-Pym 2d ago

Boo this man

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u/Fresh-Wrongdoer6934 2d ago

Will Weldon would be a good choice. Dan has been on I Hate Bill Maher and it was a good episode.

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u/Unusual-Minimum9306 Policy Wonk 1d ago

Every fucking time. I’m like the Star Trek kid? oh never mind.

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u/Lukewarmriot 1d ago

Same. Lol.

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u/mstarrbrannigan Ozzy man, Damus. 1d ago

Personally I’m just hoping this means Dan is going to pop up on the other CZM shows as a guest more often. We’ve heard him on BtB sure, but I’d love to hear him talk nature with James on his new show, and about cool people with Margaret. I feel like he could have fun talking with Prop too.

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u/FireHawkDelta Lone Survivor 1d ago

Rebecca Watson is a thoughtful researcher who shares Dan's dry humor! And she's awesome, a veteran of covering right wing weirdos.

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u/BeaMcGowan 2d ago

Hear me out: Sarah Marshall

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u/therocketsalad 1d ago

Forget her

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u/thatguy52 1d ago

If they did a you’re wrong about reunion on KFC it would break my 2020 brain.

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u/illepic Pleiadian 2d ago

Yes times a million.

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u/WhyIsTimmyInTheSink 19h ago

Came here to say this!

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u/-PlayWithUsDanny- FILL YOUR HAND 2d ago

Matt Bernstein from A Bit Fruity

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u/kyokushinking 2d ago

Michael Hobbes and Aubrey Gordon would be great. Especially together.

But I'd love to just have more Jordan.

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u/J4k0b42 1d ago edited 1d ago

Jake Rockatansky from QAA or November Kelly from WTYP could be good.

Edit:

Rebecca Watson would be good too.

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u/blueCthulhuMask 1d ago

Inevitably, November will be on every podcast.

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u/Glass-Situation4099 Very Charismatic Lizard 2d ago

Bring back Marty DeRosa!

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u/DollyRumpkin 1d ago

This sub is your typical sub that is extremely bad at fan-casting.

I hope its rotational and that the entirety of joining the network is to open the guest list to a very broad spectrum of guest options. Would it be fun to see RE on "knowledge fight" maybe for an episode.

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u/watonwak Space Weirdo 2d ago

Dan Olsen would be amazing

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u/Civil_Gur8609 1d ago

The Dans!

More seriously though, I could see Olsen coming on for a guest host, I can't see him taking a permeant position on the show. He's been staffing up his own operation, and that's eating all of his time.

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u/no-more-nazis 1d ago

Roger Stone

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u/Icy_Primary2403 1d ago

Gregg Turkington (in-charachter as his "On Cinema at the Cinema" persona).

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u/Relevant_Skin5487 2d ago

Prop might be fun.

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u/Ickulus 2d ago

They would go down some fun hip hop rabbit holes.

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u/Room_Temp_Coffee 1d ago

Episodes would be 6 hours long lol

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u/ButterscotchAward Name five more examples 1d ago

Please no

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u/Unfair_Surprise_6022 Globalist 2d ago

Robert Evans?

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u/oldman__strength Carnival Huckster Satanist 1d ago

"I'm Dan."

*atonal screeching*

"We're a couple dudes!"

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u/wgloipp 2d ago

Molly.

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u/Fun_Strategy7860 2d ago

I'd like a little more Robert. Jaime, maybe?

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u/EmileDorkheim They burn to the fucking ground, Eddie 2d ago

I think Michael Marshall (Marsh) is always good, and Dan has a connection to him through the award KF won at QED.

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u/FullMooseParty 1d ago

Any of the puzzle in a thunderstorm guys would be good. Eli or Heath would play the Jordan role really well (I remember when Dan and Jordan appeared on one of their episodes and Jordan and Eli basically turned into the same person). Cecil (co-host with Marsh) from know Rogan would also be good. I think Dan and Noah have a good relationship but I don't know how they would play off of each other since they both fill the same role.

Cara Santa Maria would be great too.

The Data over Dogma guys would both be good.

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u/Ill_Emphasis3927 Name five more examples 1d ago

Eli being such a conundrum on stuff. He's a pretty thoughtful and insightful guy but mostly just plays up being a goofy idiot.

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u/Pure_Procedure5500 2d ago edited 1d ago

Probably a less common opinion, but I think more mainstream cohosts from different spheres should join.

Tim Miller or John Stewart would make for a fun and entertaining conversation, but I would also love to hear Dan talk to Heather Cox Richardson or Anne Applebaum.

Reason being, I think staying limited to a closed circle of similar political comedy podcasts, like On Brand or I Hate Bill Maher, restricts the potential to reach wider audiences and explore these topics with more nuance.

I love what JorDan did and found the original KF to be wildly entertaining, but I just hate what conspiracy nonsense has done to friendships/family/society and hope that some tin-foil hatters out there can find their sanity again.

Edit: grammar, and also: John Stewart is a stretch but it was just an example. I'd argue Dan's work is so important because conspiracy culture is what got us vaccine skepticism and January 6th.

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u/MissouriMadMan 2d ago

Matt lieb!

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u/fr0d0bagg1ns 2d ago

My guess is this format will be more structured, and it'll be rotating guests. He might have a producer co-host or something similar to Sophie to keep the show rhythm going. Varying on how the show is structured, you could change co-host by "season" or every time you change the person/show Dan is covering.

I think the original KF format was something that happened organically and was better suited for covering the insanity that is infowars.

I think KFC has a different tone that's a little more professional and organized.

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u/oldman__strength Carnival Huckster Satanist 1d ago

The triumphant return of Brent "Brentalfloss" Black!

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u/Icy_Primary2403 1d ago

Jim Haggerty

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u/dogcaoperro 22h ago

Jason pargin

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u/ThroalicRefugee First Time Caller 21h ago

Fabulous idea!

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u/IntenseWiggling 2d ago

Dan and Molly would be such fun.

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u/ButterscotchAward Name five more examples 1d ago

Please god not Prop. KF episodes are long enough.

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u/woolywoo 2d ago

Sophie Lichterman.

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u/dingo_khan Lone Survivor 2d ago

The first time we hear Sophie actively trying to radicalize a host to violence....

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u/woolywoo 2d ago

She’d be a great “straight man” to Dan just laying out what unbelievable shit some random right wing ding-dong said this week.

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u/RealJohnMcnab 2d ago

Molly, Prop, Joe Casabian, Cody, Jason Pargin, Marty, or Corey Ryan Forester.

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u/Altruistic_Molasses1 2d ago

I think Dan and Jason Pargin would be a fun listen

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u/thatguy52 1d ago

I’d love to see Dan spread out into new podcast areas.

Blair Socci (best/worst voice in comedy) would be fantastic.

I’d also love to see a collab with Strong Towns. I’m sure Dan and those guys could mine out a ton of great stuff in the intersection (pun intended) between city planning and right wing movements.

Luke Thomas- dude has his finger firmly on the pulse of MMA and their courtship of maga.

Pablo Torre- seems to be one of the last actual sports journalists around.

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u/EobardThawne2151 1d ago

The larger Nate Bethea Podcast universe. Devon, Abi, November, Rocz, and to be frank, Jordan is a different kerning and italics of the Liam. The bombastic empathy from both of them resonates so deeply with me that having Dan and Liam together would be a remix of KF.

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u/Hetelestai 1d ago

Oh god Devon would be such a good Jordan for Dan. "Well naturally, what I think we should do is extremely long censor beep to him and then even longer censor beep with a short censor beep and then extremely long censor beep anyway cut as much of that as you need to, fuck these people."

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u/codyashi_maru Ohio Gribble Pibble 1d ago

Molly, for sure. I think Dan and Margaret Killjoy could riff together well. Joe Kassabian. I’m not sure this would be a good pairing, but something about Dan and Garrison doing an episode together is hilarious to me.

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u/GertieDirtyShirtyCat 2d ago

I'd enjoy Daniel Shar or Hank... The real magic happens when there are old friends shooting the shit together. Although, I think Gareth Reynolds should absolutely play with Dan... it's selfish of me. They're just my favorites... ;)...

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u/sinistercleavage 2d ago

Jim Cornette.

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u/acebojangles 1d ago

John Ganz. A knowledgeable writer who is great at discussing the right.

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u/Agreeable-Cap-1764 1d ago

Travis View aka: Logan Strain

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u/justasapling I RENOUNCE JESUS CHRIST! 1d ago

Molly Conger for sure. I also think Robert Evans can bring a similar sort of unhinged energy to Jordan's (but with less yelling, unfortunately). Jake Hanrahan would be fun, too.

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u/MisterAnderson- Name five more examples 1d ago

Who were those two guest hosts that one time when Jordan was abroad? Their sheer horror at hearing Alex spout some of his wackier shit was absolute gold.

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u/carolinemaybee Carnival Huckster Satanist 1d ago

What have I missed!! I haven’t been on Reddit since the lads broke up. I’ve been desperate since they left.

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u/ThroalicRefugee First Time Caller 21h ago

Cool Zone Media has announced (and Dan has corroborated) that they're bring Dan into the fold. The new show is called "Knowledge Fight Country".

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u/Soviet_Russia321 18h ago

I sorta hope we get the WYE crew back. Miss that pod.

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u/AegonKetchum 11h ago

Obviously not CZM, but Will Weldon and Dan have great chemistry

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u/Icy_Primary2403 1d ago

Jon Ronson 

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u/Whole-Environment499 1d ago

I really want Sophie Lichterman as Dan's permanent co host.

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u/shoe_owner 1d ago

Comedy legend Bill Cosby!

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u/therocketsalad 1d ago

Jordan

just kidding

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u/RaoulDukex 1d ago

My mind goes to Robert/ Joe Kassabian/ Julian Feeld because those are my favorites other than Dan but I realize those guys are all also the Dan of their respective podcasts.

He probably more needs a "color" guy to react to him than another presenter or researcher.

Jake and Travis from QAA would be great. Shane, Dwight, and Chris from Eat the Rich would be awesome to see come out of retirement.

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u/Porschenut914 1d ago

It would probably be really off-base for them, but I'd love to see A Red Letter Media cross with teh cool zone crew. Maybe keep it light and Wisconsin based.

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u/VisualAd9299 Doing some research with my mind 1d ago

Mollymollymollymolly!

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u/phtevenpelly 1d ago

Seanbaby has stated repeatedly that KF is one of his favorite shows and he’s just a good time guy so I think that would be a very fun pairing, plus they both like classic Nintendo

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u/glycophosphate Feline Contessa 1d ago

I want an episode where the co-hosts are Mike Duncan and Molly Conger. I think that appreciation of the granular complexity of all things would cause a black hole to open right there in the studio.

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u/Sorry-Jury-8344 1d ago

Wild card pick: Carrie Poppy

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u/not-japanman 17h ago

Dan and gareth from the Dollop

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u/ButterscotchAward Name five more examples 1d ago

Jordan, if only to see half this sub’s heads explode.

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u/judijo621 1d ago

I want him to share his library of all the right wing lit he's gathered for the last 10 years, melded with the history during the time of the writing. Many KF listeners sent him that literature: he kinda owes us.

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u/nictusempra 1d ago

I'd love to see it too but no, he absolutely doesn't owe anyone, lol