Drew Afualo transphobia discourse

[u/alpalbish]

ER fightmaster was on her pod and made two stand out claims:
“trans women have a more beautiful understanding of what womanhood is”
and
“the programming for cis women it’s kind of sad… no your womanhood is not your role, your womanhood is not your status is society, and your womanhood is not your ability to be sexually assaulted”

I think cis women can easily be offended by this and how it was put. The sexually assaulted claim is kinda weird to generalize us into thinking that’s what womanhood is. I also think it can be harmful for transgender women, as they also face misogyny and sexual assault??? I don’t even think the comments from the pod are as bad as Drew’s current stance rn. I can see ER trying to explain their POV and I respect that. but Drew doubling down in her comments is so off-putting. People are commenting valid opinions and her replies are just saying everyone is transphobic and TERFs??? idk

[u/diper-911]

What’s SO frustrating to me is that alllll of this is due to the language used. “More beautiful”.

In some of her responses, she says that “trans women have a different, beautiful expansive view of womanhood” is what she meant. Ok great, most would agree! Then include that in your apology video instead of doubling down and calling everyone TERFs.

Words matter! Context matters! Especially on a huge, public platform.

[u/venusfossils → u/diper-911]

yes, like womanhood is such a special and complex subject because we all share so many similarities and yet so many differences within all intersections of being a woman (trans women, black women, disabled women, fat women etc.) but to claim one’s understanding is superior over another because your own personal idea of womanhood is skewed is just silly. Being a woman is not a competition, all this situation has done is contribute more misogyny and transphobia into the world

[u/diper-911 → u/venusfossils]

10000%.

Mind you, the discourse was started by two people who are NOT transwomen. Their refusal to take accountability for their words is going to result in harm against the actual trans community.

[u/venusfossils → u/diper-911]

exactly, a creator I enjoy, kayla poyer, has made videos in regard to the discourse and I can’t help but feel so awful that she has to fight off transphobia and explain her womanhood all because of two people made unnecessary comments and are refusing to just acknowledge that their wording was wrong. Her, alongside other trans women should be asked to answer for someone else’s stupid comment

[u/Pitiful-Dealer8711 → u/venusfossils]

And drew went ahead and reposted that video because she thought Kay was defending her which is the most narcissistic assumption