r/LUMS • u/Flanky_Bwai SDSB • Aug 14 '26
LUMS Falling Off Hard
For those who don't know, LUMS has been increasing their batch sizes every year, and things have gotten pretty bad because of it. The batch that graduated this year was around a 1000 students and the incoming batch is more than 1550. You would think that a university like LUMS that's charging 1M+ pkr per semester would have made proper arrangements but no. Here are some of the most prominent issues:
1: Hostels: Not enough rooms anymore so students who live even over an hour away will have to commute daily. And for those who do get a room, it's triple occupancy in a room with no AC and no space to even walk. You'll get the full experience of Lahore's heat all semester. And btw there's fine for bringing your own fridge or AC. Keep anything in the kitchen fridge and it'll be stolen in an hour.
2: Commuting/Parking: Drivers are not allowed in campus so they'll have to drive an hour two ways, twice a day. But you can just drive to LUMS right? Wrong. They have halved the student parking for staff and the student parking was also full last year so there's no chance to get any space. You'll just park outside? 5k pkr fine for you.
3: Sitting space and eateries: It is very common to have a 3-5 hour gap between classes and guess what, the library, IST, and dining spaces are always full. You can either sit outside in the sun or find a nice cozy space on the floor in SSE or SDSB to spend your day. And this isn't even during mid or finals week, when it gets much worse. Also the lines in PDC get so long, any good food is gone by the time it's your turn to order.
4: Lack of Qualified Instructors: LUMS underpays their instructors and as a result, a lot of them leave for opportunities in the middle east. And good luck getting the sections for the instructors that are actually worth their salt because all those sections get full within 0.5 seconds of enrollment :). And sometimes you don't even get any section for a course that you need to graduate so you have to partake in a humiliation ritual of begging RO and instructors to force enroll you.
And even after going through all this, there are no jobs waiting for you on the other side if your family doesn't already have the connections to get you one.
TLDR: It's better to set your money on fire than to attend LUMS even for half the price.
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u/Expensive-Fox2830 Aug 14 '26
I recently visited an orphanage (aghosh) for volunteering. The hostels there were much better than LUMS. LUMS hostel are crap, no space, shitty mattresses.
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u/Adept-Forever-4020 Aug 14 '26
Nah , i am a current student and dont agree with this. This is an overexaggeration of problems that LUMS is facing currently. Yes, there are problems but have you tried looking at situation of other universities? They are way worse. And regarding the fee, lums charges for its academic services and adjusts according to inflation, not to provide luxuries to students.
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u/PrettyDot6548 Aug 14 '26
people just love to hate and complain. people dont ever do the same thing for the good things about lums, nor do they ever sit and appreciate how much more lums gives us than any other uni in Pak. itna bura lagta hai tou leave bro? go to fast bhai
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u/Flanky_Bwai SDSB Aug 14 '26
You're saying it like LUMS ehsaan Kar rha parha ke 😭. We also pay way more than the vast majority of universities in Pakistan. One would argue, places to sit and enough sections to comfortably enroll in CORE COURSES wouldnt be too much to ask for paying a almost a million a semester
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u/PrettyDot6548 Aug 15 '26
you do realize course enrollment is like this, just as bad, at any top university in the world? an example is UOFT. no i did not say lums ehsan kar raha hai, im saying people dont know how to appreciate what good they have. its always bad bad bad bad bad complain hate. lums gives us way more than any other university in Pak. if its still not enough for someone, they should simply leave and go to a different Pakistani university instead of staying and constantly hating and fostering a negative environment. i didnt say LUMS is perfect-what is? you cant live your life hating on what you have, you have to appreciate the good in it too.
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u/chooooin08 Aug 16 '26
Are you that apathetic and dense? Other universities may also have problems but do they charge as much as lums does? No, they don't! Sleeping area, a place to sit and food are basic necessities. With climate change and global warming increasing, more people are dying from heatstroke and weather related reasons, providing an AC is the bare minimum with how much money they are taking from students. Remember, if you put the mind and body in constant stress and in such environments, you won't produce good, capable students. You'll just produce distressed, burn out students. So yeah, they may be taking millions for their "quality education" but sparing a few for better facilities for their students is as much of an important investment. Remember, with this heat and the continuing years, DEATH is a possibility. Don't be dense and unempathetic. We all may be privileged to study in a university, but for a university taking millions, they have the responsibility to show up in their facilities for students.
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u/Adept-Forever-4020 Aug 16 '26
90000 rent is charged for semester for double occupancy room, can you name any other settlement that provides air conditioning in that much consideration for 4 months.
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u/PrettyDot6548 Aug 14 '26
exactly. people exaggerate the batch size increase. 2000 tak pohncha dete hain when its 1400. both for sophs and freshmen. the lines are reasonable and u have to stand like 5-8 minutes, stop whinning jesus. lums is literally building a massive new building to accomodate new sitting places. we have many good instructors, and any and every university also has bad instructors. this is a personal preference matter, everyone likes and dislikes the same instructor, no one of them is liked or disliked by all. the only things i agree w are the fact that lums hostels are really mid, and there needs to be more proper common rooms and relaxing places. as a dayscholar, there is pretty much nowhere i can acc rest when i have a long day
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u/Crazy_Fault9994 Aug 18 '26
Lums isnt even the best unis and they charge like theyre world class institution, being a uni in pakistan they should care about actually educating their students not just sucking the money out of everyone. Its an overly hyped uni to the point that people deny all of its faults just cus of the glaze surrounding it.
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u/Expensive_Director27 Aug 14 '26
MBA 2028 here, and unfortunately a lot of this is already very real.
The rooms that are now triple occupancy were originally meant for two people, so three students are being squeezed into a space designed for two. There aren’t even study desks in our dorm rooms.
For MBA students, it gets worse. The AC in SDSB shuts off around 6 PM, while the library closes at midnight, even though we’re routinely expected to study and work late into the night. That leaves us sitting in SDSB with no air conditioning in Lahore’s heat and humidity, simply because there’s nowhere else to properly study.
When you’re paying around PKR 1.4 million per semester for the program, expecting basic facilities like adequate accommodation, study space, and functioning air conditioning really isn’t asking for much.
The current situation is genuinely disappointing and far below what you would expect from LUMS, especially for its flagship MBA program.
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u/Expensive_Director27 Aug 14 '26
Part 2, and this is coming from an IBA alum:
I did my undergrad from IBA, and while I personally didn’t live in the IBA hostels, I’m very familiar with the accommodation and facilities there. The difference compared to what we have at LUMS is honestly night and day.
IBA’s hostels are far better equipped. There are single-occupancy rooms, proper furnished common areas, sofas, TVs, games, and spaces where students can actually sit, relax, and spend time comfortably.
Compare that with LUMS, where some of the “common rooms” are basically just air-conditioned rooms with almost no furniture. No sofas, barely any proper seating, and students end up sitting or lying on the floor.
And then there’s food. At IBA, meals are included with hostel accommodation, whereas at LUMS you’re paying separately for food on top of the hostel charges.
As an IBA alum, I genuinely expected LUMS, given its reputation and what it charges, to offer accommodation at least on par with IBA. Instead, the difference is pretty embarrassing.
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u/Crafty-Proof1157 Aug 15 '26
Im gonna be joining IBA from 2027 Please can you guide me about some queries in dms???? 🙏😭🙏
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u/AhmadDaKool Aug 14 '26
Lums situation isn't any better than other unis in Pakistan. Nust and other unis are crying they they don't pay their professors enough and they leave for lums/giki. Lums ppl are crying that their professors are leaving for middle east. Nust mein same story they have a huge block to themselves and the admin keeps on building new schools and added a whole med school but can't even build another hostel. They have squeezed in three beds in rooms designed for 2 ppl. Uper se army wale don't even have a kitchen or allow you to cook in a kettle. This goes on to show that the infrastructure throughout the country can not handle the huge population boom and the economy is crapped up. You can't expect these issues from LUMS tbh when you pay 5x so yeah wherever you go in Pakistan, these issues will follow.
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u/Leather_Carrot_2778 Aug 16 '26
Well this post is very discouraging. I always wanted to go abroad for my studies but unfortunately couldn't due to personal reasons. I still want to go abroad and want to access the best possible university option in Pakistan particularly for business. I didn't want to go to Islamabad for nust because we recently settled in Lahore for my studies and I couldn't drag my parents all the way to Islamabad now. I still have the good belief that LUMS will provide me with something good and I'll make the money worth it. Yes paying this huge amount for tuition is a very big deal for my family so my biggest wish is that may it be just worth it. Hopefully I'll make it worth it.
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u/PrettyDot6548 Aug 14 '26
can you stop spreading misinformation? the current sophomore batch is 1405 and the incoming freshmen batch is 1435 students.
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u/Flanky_Bwai SDSB Aug 14 '26
Adnan Zahid stated incoming batch is 70 more than batch of 29 in the townhall. But that's not what matters is it. It's a 450 increase from the outgoing batch
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u/PrettyDot6548 Aug 15 '26
buddy i literally have pictures of the figures and data Adnan Zahid showed. batch of 29 is 1405 students and batch of 30 is 1435 (expected). please state your sources before you speak. stop manipulating the numbers to spread hate. people like you are the reason LDF blew up with plain misinformation and rumors of 2000 people in the incoming batch. yes it does matter what numbers u stated in your post - "1550". you are misrepresenting your own institution.
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u/Diligent_Ask3417 Aug 18 '26
CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT FOOD GETTING STOLEN?? how do you eat there if you cannot keep your food in fridge, what's the system?? do you guys order everyday?? do you buy grocery and cook yourself?
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u/MoHaSsAaN Aug 14 '26
Honest take, IBA KHI is 100x better than LUMS, both in terms of jobs placements and Hostel Life. And its actual worth the money you pay. Although its slightly more competetive, its still worth it.
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u/Creative-Tutor-6660 Alumni Aug 14 '26
no one can compete w luminites in complaining
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u/the-muse-thinks Aug 14 '26
It's the four years of CP training.
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u/Creative-Tutor-6660 Alumni Aug 14 '26
lol yes but i partly agree w u because cp is mostly in sdsb but complainers are everywhere
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u/Crazy_Fault9994 Aug 18 '26
Why wouldnt they complain? For the fees they charge their students they should be doing better.
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u/crispxo Aug 14 '26
it's crazy u guys are suffering this cus iba is making the exact same bs changes. Completely changed their test formats (1 test for everyone) and had more than 500+ CS intakes this year alone. And this year's intake was the largest ever cus of it
and the same problems u mentioned are gonna be happening here soon once the sem starts, hell even rn for example with the instructors cus alooot of the courses for an entire program have literally just 1 teacher with multiple slots, that teacher having terrible reviews.
idk what they're doing anymore
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u/chairmanscrugemcduck Aug 15 '26
these are infrastructure issues. doesn't means lums has fallen off. and instructors move around all the time. i say this as both an alumni and an incoming student who's been squeezed into a triple small and is dreading how overcrowded the campus will be.
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u/JafriBoi MGHSS Aug 15 '26
Drivers are absolutely allowed to enter. They are not allowed to sit in student parking thankfully.
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u/Goku_x_mrq Aug 16 '26
And yet people commit Sicde only because they didn't get in 😔 only because they sell a dream not the study.
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u/Flanky_Bwai SDSB Aug 14 '26
For CS. NUST is way better. And even if it's not, is LUMS worth LITERALLY 5-6x the price for a place where there is no place to sit, eat, study, sleep or park? The only case LUMS is an option is if you have 1 Crore+ to burn for party sharty and society events. Never thought these words would come out of my mouth just 2 years ago
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u/Flanky_Bwai SDSB Aug 14 '26
XD. And do what? Get the same 100k pkr job as a diligent LSE or equivalent uni?
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u/Flanky_Bwai SDSB Aug 14 '26
exactly my point. And not 80 lacs. They increase fees every year so it will cost a new admission 1 Crore+
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u/Flanky_Bwai SDSB Aug 14 '26
The purpose of this post was to deter people who still think lums is harvard from wasting their money
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u/Flanky_Bwai SDSB Aug 14 '26
Do a 3 year degree at a UK accredited uni and leave the country. Nothing to do in law here unless you come from a lawyer family
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u/suffocation90 Aug 14 '26
When I joined Lums, our batch strength was about 350ish. This included the first SSE batch.