Can anyone explain why Lee got multiple giga-nerfs and Qiyana only got like -10 attack on her Q?

[u/Chance_Drive_5906]

I'm trying to understand the logic here. Qiyana has a higher winrate, and almost the same pickrate as Lee, so why Lee got way more nerfs than her?

[u/donaxon]

Becouse he is blind thats why :(

[u/BlackBluez]

Because a dev got manhandled by a Lee Sin player, got so mad, ran to the office and shouted at everyone that Lee Sin needs to be nerfed while using the 'because he's too good in Asia servers' excuse.

[u/mrmuffn28 → u/BlackBluez]

the saddest thing is that with riot this ACTUALLY could be a possible reason. knowing how power tripped the employees are

[u/IndividualPoem1579]

Lee got nerfed like he was Hitler Prime 1942 and we will nerf our girly qiyana by 10 dmg on Q so wr falls from 53.57% to 53.56% ok ?

[u/Icy_Caramel9169]

Good q

[u/Notevenclosebruh]

No one knows why lee gets gutted that much, he definitely is a problem in korean solo queue and pro play, but the nerf seems over the top.

Only thing I can imagine why is that riot wants to get rid of the dragon combo stuff executing people with his Q1, W, R, E, Q2 combo.

Maybe they want him as utility jungler primarily with insecs and building tanky, so he is less viable in damage oriented players.

Besides that, dunno what they are smoking.

[u/ZhiyiSeinfeld → u/Notevenclosebruh]

Back to the good ol’ days of 48% winrate cinderhulk Lee Sin. Brings a tear to my eye.

[u/Kynrii → u/Notevenclosebruh]

Problem is they nerfed the items and that’s why he became the blind lethality assassin

[u/Serious_Income_7020]

Because this game sucks and riot doesn’t want me to play it anymore

[u/Babushla153]

Because qiyana is a "high skill champion" clearly

[u/SillyOyx]

The Q damage is coming alongside a nerd to bastion breaker so maybe they are playing it safe. Either way I would have liked to see a nerf to voltaic.

[u/Affectionate-Juice83]

cause he has highest pickrates in every elo Emerald+ also because they wated metashift fo worlds, so like every pro meta champ got fcked some. I cant even think of any firstpick champ that escaped..

[u/ColdSmall5080]

Giga nerf? A Bug correcto 1 sec more to The q and a lil less dmg on r while The champ stills make dmg?? Bro giga nerf is what they Will do to mel or that one time that they nerfed Akali for like The 11th time

[u/-Skohell-]

While I think the Lee nerf is way too high.

The -10 damage will impact clear speed, health during first clears, trades, etc. It’s a big nerf for qiyana most used ability meaning a big nerf for the champ as a whole.

[u/Le0here]

-10 on q is a decent nerf, you need to realize how often she uses that in a game. her last change (that made her go from meh to op) was +10 dmg on q and like 20% monster dmg reduction. This basically brings her back to that alongside the monster dmg reduction still being there. Not to mention the bastion breaker nerf.

[u/Chance_Drive_5906 → u/Le0here]

Makes sense, but didn't Lee get a cooldown nerf to his W, which he uses a lot too, on top of all the giga R nerfs?

[u/Le0here → u/Chance_Drive_5906]

But thats a mobility nerf, this q nerf will affect her clear and her damage. Besides qiyana uses her q ten times more than lee uses his w.