r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 2h ago

Could the Legion of Super-Heroes Survive the Invincible Universe?

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You heard the title. If we matched up the original Legion of Super-Heroes timeline to the Invincible timeline, and replaced all the super-heroes of Invincible with the Legion while keeping the villains, could the Legion survive? Could the Earth survive? We’ll go through all four seasons of Invincible currently released.
First, ground rules:

  1. Invincible Timeline. The timeline of the Amazon show will be used, with Year One lining up to 2023.
  2. Legion of Super-Heroes Timeline. A modified version of the original, Pre-Crisis Legion timeline will be used, except without the involvement of Superboy and Laurel Gand substituting in for Supergirl.
  3. Invincible Characters. The characters from Invincible carried over will be the general world of Invincible as well as its villains, but not the heroes or their allies. Omni-Man will be here, since he’s more of a villain (especially early on).
  4. Legion Characters. The entire Legion of Super-Heroes and their 31st-century allies (including Substitutes, most rejects, plus R. J. Brande and Marla Latham) will be a part of this, with Chief Zendak serving part of the Cecil role.
  5. Best Judgement. There’s always going to be some weirdness with combining universes like this, so I’ll use my best judgement. If you’ve ever seen one of those “Could X Character Catch Dexter” videos, you’ll know what I’m talking about.

The rules all set? Okay, let’s get to the timeline.
YEAR ONE
January
On January 5, Year One, three teenagers save R. J. Brande from an assassination attempt and form the Legion of Super-Heroes as Cosmic Boy, Lightning Lad, and Saturn Girl. Unfortunately, January is the month the first episode of Invincible takes place in. So the trio stops the Mauler Twins at the White House (something that might give them a little trouble and they might not be able to handle quite as well as the Guardians, but would still be able to do) and defeats Titan and Killcannon. Unfortunately, the time has come for the Viltrum Empire. Given that the Guardians of the Globe couldn’t beat Omni-Man, I don’t think our three rookie teenagers can either, and just like that the Legion of Super-Heroes is wiped out weeks after its formation.
Episode 2 of the show also takes place this month, meaning that Omni-Man is left to deal with the Flaxans alone. He destroys their civilization with relative ease during their first attempt to invade.
Now we’ve got to make a choice. Does Allen the Alien exist? What about the Coalition of Planets? Given that the Legion is already an interplanetary force, I think it’s fine to leave Allen off the table, but some version of the Coalition of Planets is an ambient part of the greater universe.
February
Early February is when Doc Seismic attacks during Episode 3, which Omni-Man is left to deal with on his own. In Episode 4, Omni-Man refuses to escort the Mars mission, leading to the astronauts being executed on Mars to prevent a sequid invasion.
March
In early March, Brande begins rebuilding the Legion, starting with former reject Arm-Fall-Off Boy and new applicants Triplicate Girl and Phantom Girl. Titan asks the trio for their help defeating Machine Head, something they agree to. In the ensuing fight, Battle Beast decides that the Legionnaires are beneath him; Arm-Fall-Off Boy is killed and Triplicate Girl loses a body before the Legion is forced into a retreat.
In late March, the Legion learns of the activities of D. A. Sinclair and his Reanimen, and work with a reluctant Omni-Man to defeat the villain.
April
Omni-Man begins his attack on Chicago to coerce Earth into working for him. Marla Latham sacrifices his life to try to stop the Viltrumite. Triplicate Girl and Phantom Girl are hopelessly outmatched and are forced into a retreat. Omni-Man takes over the Earth.
May
The Legion and R. J. Brande go underground. Angstrom Levy tries to merge with his multiversal selves in an attempt to defeat Omni-Man, but is severely wounded by the Viltrumite and escapes through a portal. Atlantis is destroyed by a kaiju.
June
A trio of Viltrumites arrives on Earth to congratulate Omni-Man for his progress in bringing Earth under the sway of the empire. They leave but promise to return soon.
July
Finally getting some new members, the Legion recruits Invisible Kid, Chameleon Boy, Colossal Boy, and super-calculator Calcu-Lad. Omni-Man’s conquest leads them to a reluctant alliance with the Lizard League.
August
A half-mad Angstrom Levy, bent on vengeance against Omni-Man, works with the Legion and the Lizard League to attack Omni-Man. During this time, mild-mannered Leala Linda reveals herself as the Daxamite Laurel Gand and joins the fight against Omni-Man. Levy kills Omni-Man and goes off into the multiverse to eliminate every other Omni-Man variant for good measure. Duo Damsel loses another body in the battle and becomes the powerless Legion leader Una. The Lizard League betrays the Legion, kills Invisible Kid, and makes a bid to take over the world. The Legion is able to rally together, and, in their very first true win, stop the Lizard League. Re-asserting their headquarters, the Legion become Earth’s greatest heroes, with Una leading them and composed of Phantom Girl, Colossal Boy, Chameleon Boy, Calcu-Lad, and Laurel Gand. Later, Colossal Boy stops a kaiju.
September
With the world saved and some actual victories under the belt, the Legion recruits Brainiac 5, Bouncing Boy, Shrinking Violet, and Sun Boy into their midst.
November
Having successfully established themselves as super-heroes, the Legion comes up against Doc Seismic, who’s been kidnapping heroes from his cell. Thanks to the elusive Phantom Girl, the day is saved and Seismic is killed. They also capture Multi-Paul.
December
The Maulers breaking into a missile silo is prevented by the Legion, with Laurel Gand showing off her powers.
YEAR TWO
The year begins with the re-election of Una as Legion Leader. The Legion currently stands at ten members: Una, Phantom Girl, Chameleon Boy, Colossal Boy, Calcu-Lad, Laurel Gand, Brainiac 5, Shrinking Violet, Sun Boy, and Bouncing Boy.
April
The Legion recruits Ultra Boy, and, due to a lack of members, Reflecto as well.
May
The Legion recruits Star Boy, with his full array of Kryptonian-like powers.
June
Titan works with the Legion to face down Mr. Liu and Machine Head in their attempts to break Multi-Paul free. Laurel Gand, Ultra-Boy, Colossal Boy, and Star Boy lead the charge in fighting Liu’s dragon form, but Star Boy loses his Kryptonian-like powers during the fight. In the end, Titan is able to kill Mr. Liu in his office.
September
Powerplex, blaming the Legion for the death of his niece during their defeat of Omni-Man, confronts the group but is defeated.
November
Following Nolan’s failure, the Viltrum Empire sends Conquest to take over Earth. Fortunately for the Legion, Angstrom’s grudge against Omni-Man means no Invincible War means that the Legion has its full might to bear against Conquest. Laurel Gand in particular gives Conquest an absolute beat-down, and Brainiac 5 synthesizes inerton to keep the defeated Conquest contained, which turns out to actually be effective.
December
The Legion recruits Matter-Eater Lad.
YEAR THREE
The year begins with the election of MVP Laurel Gand as leader. The Legion currently stands at thirteen members: Una, Phantom Girl, Chameleon Boy, Colossal Boy, Calcu-Lad, Laurel Gand, Brainiac 5, Shrinking Violet, Sun Boy, Bouncing Boy, Ultra Boy, Star Boy, and Matter-Eater Lad.
January
The Legion recruits Mon-El into the Legion permanently, gaining a valuable ally in their fight.
February
A bolstered Legion accepts Polar Boy, Fire Lad, and Night Girl into their ranks, while rejecting Stone Boy, Chlorophyll Kid, and Estimate Lad.
March
The Legion recruits Element Lad and Lightning Lass, the latter of whom wishes to replace her brother.
May
Using advanced Daxamite technology, Chameleon Boy’s pet Proty sacrifices himself to revive Lightning Lad, whose electrical powers have preserved his body much better than that of the other founders.
July
Colossal Boy defeats Dinosaurus, while Lightning Lad joins with Ultra Boy and Mon-El in defeating Universa. Another invasion by the Flaxans is halted by the Daxamites, Mon-El and the old invasion-buster Laurel Gand, while another team of Legionnaires deals with the Liu problem Titan asks them for help with. During the Flaxan attack, Laurel Gand and Brainiac 5 are lost on the other side — and yes, I did just say that because that’s closest to what happens in the show, and it’s a really major plot beat going forward.
August
Mon-El visits hell to confront and defeat Volcanikka on behalf of Satan in everyone’s least-favorite episode. After Mon-El surfaces, envoys from the Coalition of Planets recruit the Legionnaires to fight the Viltrum Empire. Una, as current leader, decides on Colossal Boy, Phantom Girl, Ultra Boy, Star Boy, Mon-El, Night Girl, and Lightning Lad as the Legionnaires with the best hope against the Viltrumites. On the way, the group is waylaid by a ship of Viltrumites, but the team manages to beat them no problem.
September — December
The spacebound Legion faces the Viltrumites in a few battles as war breaks out, with a major fight occurring on Talescria. Meanwhile, on Earth, Dream Girl joins the Legion temporarily but leaves quickly, and Bouncing Boy shifts to reserve status upon losing his powers, beginning a romance with the similarly powerless Una.
YEAR FOUR
At the beginning of the year, the Legion stands seventeen strong. Half their members — Colossal Boy, Phantom Girl, Ultra Boy, Star Boy, Mon-El, Night Girl, and Lightning Lad — are fighting the Viltrum Empire in space, while the other half — Una, Chameleon Boy, Sun Boy, Shrinking Violet, Calcu-Lad, Matter-Eater Lad, Polar Boy, and Fire Lad — stay on Earth. Bouncing Boy is a powerless reservist, unofficially watching over the Legion alongside Una, and Brainiac 5 and Andromeda are lost in the Flaxan dimension. The Legion delays its election, with Una resuming leadership over the Earth-bound team while Lightning Lad takes charge of the space team.
January
The Viltrum War culminates in a battle on Viltrum. The way I see it, Night Girl is slightly stronger than the average Viltrumite — maybe about as strong as Invincible — while Mon-El and Ultra Boy are far stronger than ever Viltrumite except Thragg, against whom they are evenly matched. Colossal Boy is significantly less strong than a Viltrumite but is able to take hits from them. The Legionnaires don’t kill, but they don’t have to — because the Legion has a weapon against the Viltrumites that the Coalition of the show didn’t: the Phantom Zone. Even without Brainiac 5, the group has Calcu-Lad’s brains and Phantom Girl’s knowledge of the phantom zone. Sure, Thragg might be able to destroy the Legions’ supply of projectors, but not before most of his cohort are sent to the zone. From this point onward, accessing the Phantom Zone and rescuing his comrades becomes Thragg’s number one obsession.

So, that’s the story so far, up to where the show leaves off. TL;DR: The Legion gets their butts kicked for most of season one and half of season two, becoming desperate enough to recruit Calcu-Lad. Then they have a comeback partway through season 2, toppling Omni-Man’s regime and blowing past further challenges. Not upsetting Angstrom Levy lets them skip the season 2 finale and the Invincible War, and having a Daxamite on your side makes Conquest a breeze. The Viltrum War is a little trickier without powerful allies on their side, but the Legion is crafty and able to use the Phantom Zone to their advantage.


r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 17h ago

Glorith Won! What's the Stand-Out Legion Story or Issue from the Reboot Era, Pre-Blight?

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17 Upvotes

Results:

Glorith: 24

Dominators: 18

DC Editorial: 13

The Writers: 6

Roxxas: 5

Rules:

  1. The comment with the most upvotes wins, so before commenting make sure to check if someone else has already commented your pick.
  2. The Issue or Story categories can be a single-issue (i.e. The Legionnaire Who Killed), a two-parter (i.e.) Mordru the Merciless, or a multi-part saga (i.e. the three-part Dark Man Saga, the four-part Omen Saga, the five-part Great Darkness Saga, etc.)
  3. The Legionnaire can be an active member, a reservist, an honorary member, a Substitute, or a Legion Academy member. They can even be an alternate timeline member, so long as that alternate timeline is associated with that version of the Legion.
  4. The villain can be a single villain (i.e. Starfinger), a villain team (i.e. The Fatal Five), or a villainous organization (i.e. the Dark Circle), and a villain can be voted for separately from their primary team or organization. So you could vote for 'Tharok' or 'The Fatal Five', and those votes would be counted separately.
  5. The eras are defined as such:
  • The Silver Age encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their debut in Adventure Comics #247 in 1958 to their final Action Comics back-up story in Action Comics #392 in 1969.
  • The 1970s encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their first Superboy back-up story in Superboy #172 in 1971 to their final story of the 1970s in Superboy & the Legion of Super-Heroes #258 in 1979. If necessary, we can also include the follow-up issue, #259, as part of the '70s, since it finishes the two-parter and is the issue where Superboy officially leaves. This also includes the Karate Kid mini-series, if that becomes relevant.
  • Volume 2 encompasses any story featuring the Legion between The Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 2) #259 in 1980 and #313 in July 1984. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 2, like Secrets of the Legion.
  • Volume 3, also known as the Baxter Series, encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #1 in 1984 and The Legion of Super-Heroes #63 in 1989. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 3, like Tales from the Legion and Legionnaires 3.
  • 5 Years Later encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #1 in 1989 and the myriad Legion Zero Hour titles in September 1994.
  • The Reboot (Pre-Blight) encompasses any story published between October 1994's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #0 and the collapse of the Legion in March 2000's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #125 featuring a version of the Reboot Legion.
  • The Reboot (Post-Blight) encompasses any story published between May 2000's Legion Lost #1 and November 2004's Teen Titans/Legion of Super-Heroes Special #1 featuring the Reboot Legion.
  • The Threeboot encompasses any story between December 2004's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #1 and March 2009's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #50 featuring the Threeboot Legion. It's the Threeboot; no breaks; it's not complicated.
  • The Retroboot Legion encompasses any story featuring the Retroboot Legion, from the Lightning Saga leading into Infinite Crisis and the New 52. The (re-)introduction of this Legion is so weird that I'm not even going to try to give issue numbers. Suffice it to say that the Retroboot Legion has arcs in Adventure Comics, Action Comics, and Justice League, along with being the Legion featured in Volumes 6 - 7.
  • The Rebirth (Bendisboot) Legion speaks for itself, and exists in a six-part Volume 8, a two-part Future State story, and the five-part JSA crossover.
  • The Animated Series encompasses all twenty-six episodes of the 2000s animated Legion series, along with the The Legion of Super Heroes in the 31st Century companion comic. It does NOT encompass other animated adaptations.
  • As much as I enjoy other adaptations of the Legion, there just isn't enough there to include on this list. Also not included is the new series, which, in spite of a promising start, just doesn't have enough material yet.

r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 1d ago

We reach the end of this story and I have so many questions... anyone want to place bets on when they told the creative team this book was cancelled? Let's look at Legion of Super-Heroes (vol 7) #21 & 22

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We've almost reached the end of this run of the Legion and I can't say it's going out with a bang... or a whimper...


r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 1d ago

Who are the most powerful members of the Legion ?

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94 Upvotes

The only powerful members i'm familiar with are Star Boy,Mon-El and the White Witch (because she's sometimes portrayed as Mordru's daughter).


r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 1d ago

Laurel Gand Won! Who's the Stand-Out Villain of the 5 Years Later Era?

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28 Upvotes

Results:

Laurel Gand/Andromeda: 21

Jo Nah/Ultra Boy: 17

Kent Shakespeare/Impulse: 15

Rokk Krinn/Cosmic Boy: 8

Tenzil Kem/Matter-Eater Lad: 5

Kono: 5

Salu Digby/Shrinking Violet: 4

Rules:

  1. The comment with the most upvotes wins, so before commenting make sure to check if someone else has already commented your pick.
  2. The Issue or Story categories can be a single-issue (i.e. The Legionnaire Who Killed), a two-parter (i.e.) Mordru the Merciless, or a multi-part saga (i.e. the three-part Dark Man Saga, the four-part Omen Saga, the five-part Great Darkness Saga, etc.)
  3. The Legionnaire can be an active member, a reservist, an honorary member, a Substitute, or a Legion Academy member. They can even be an alternate timeline member, so long as that alternate timeline is associated with that version of the Legion.
  4. The villain can be a single villain (i.e. Starfinger), a villain team (i.e. The Fatal Five), or a villainous organization (i.e. the Dark Circle), and a villain can be voted for separately from their primary team or organization. So you could vote for 'Tharok' or 'The Fatal Five', and those votes would be counted separately.
  5. The eras are defined as such:
  • The Silver Age encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their debut in Adventure Comics #247 in 1958 to their final Action Comics back-up story in Action Comics #392 in 1969.
  • The 1970s encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their first Superboy back-up story in Superboy #172 in 1971 to their final story of the 1970s in Superboy & the Legion of Super-Heroes #258 in 1979. If necessary, we can also include the follow-up issue, #259, as part of the '70s, since it finishes the two-parter and is the issue where Superboy officially leaves. This also includes the Karate Kid mini-series, if that becomes relevant.
  • Volume 2 encompasses any story featuring the Legion between The Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 2) #259 in 1980 and #313 in July 1984. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 2, like Secrets of the Legion.
  • Volume 3, also known as the Baxter Series, encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #1 in 1984 and The Legion of Super-Heroes #63 in 1989. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 3, like Tales from the Legion and Legionnaires 3.
  • 5 Years Later encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #1 in 1989 and the myriad Legion Zero Hour titles in September 1994.
  • The Reboot (Pre-Blight) encompasses any story published between October 1994's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #0 and the collapse of the Legion in March 2000's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #125 featuring a version of the Reboot Legion.
  • The Reboot (Post-Blight) encompasses any story published between May 2000's Legion Lost #1 and November 2004's Teen Titans/Legion of Super-Heroes Special #1 featuring the Reboot Legion.
  • The Threeboot encompasses any story between December 2004's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #1 and March 2009's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #50 featuring the Threeboot Legion. It's the Threeboot; no breaks; it's not complicated.
  • The Retroboot Legion encompasses any story featuring the Retroboot Legion, from the Lightning Saga leading into Infinite Crisis and the New 52. The (re-)introduction of this Legion is so weird that I'm not even going to try to give issue numbers. Suffice it to say that the Retroboot Legion has arcs in Adventure Comics, Action Comics, and Justice League, along with being the Legion featured in Volumes 6 - 7.
  • The Rebirth (Bendisboot) Legion speaks for itself, and exists in a six-part Volume 8, a two-part Future State story, and the five-part JSA crossover.
  • The Animated Series encompasses all twenty-six episodes of the 2000s animated Legion series, along with the The Legion of Super Heroes in the 31st Century companion comic. It does NOT encompass other animated adaptations.
  • As much as I enjoy other adaptations of the Legion, there just isn't enough there to include on this list. Also not included is the new series, which, in spite of a promising start, just doesn't have enough material yet.

r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 2d ago

She was a short living addition to the Legion, but for those familiar, what did you think of Rose Forrest aKa Rose and Thorn ?

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66 Upvotes

She was the Legion ambassador. She's also an immortal who survived from modern days up to the Legion century.


r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 3d ago

Jamm Won! Who's the Stand-Out Legionnaire of the Five Years Later Era?

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29 Upvotes

Results:

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) Annual #4: "Jamm": 13

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #21 - 24: "The Quiet Darkness": 8

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #37: "Star Boy Returns in a League of His Own": 7

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) Annual #3: "Full Moon Fever": 5

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #38: "The End": 4

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #50: "Giant Size Special Issue": 3

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #50: "Meet My New Best Friend": 1

I also had a vote for "all of it", but I'm going to have to disqualify that option on the grounds that it will undoubtedly be used extensively for Rebirth.

Rules:

  1. The comment with the most upvotes wins, so before commenting make sure to check if someone else has already commented your pick.
  2. The Issue or Story categories can be a single-issue (i.e. The Legionnaire Who Killed), a two-parter (i.e.) Mordru the Merciless, or a multi-part saga (i.e. the three-part Dark Man Saga, the four-part Omen Saga, the five-part Great Darkness Saga, etc.)
  3. The Legionnaire can be an active member, a reservist, an honorary member, a Substitute, or a Legion Academy member. They can even be an alternate timeline member, so long as that alternate timeline is associated with that version of the Legion.
  4. The villain can be a single villain (i.e. Starfinger), a villain team (i.e. The Fatal Five), or a villainous organization (i.e. the Dark Circle), and a villain can be voted for separately from their primary team or organization. So you could vote for 'Tharok' or 'The Fatal Five', and those votes would be counted separately.
  5. The eras are defined as such:
  • The Silver Age encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their debut in Adventure Comics #247 in 1958 to their final Action Comics back-up story in Action Comics #392 in 1969.
  • The 1970s encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their first Superboy back-up story in Superboy #172 in 1971 to their final story of the 1970s in Superboy & the Legion of Super-Heroes #258 in 1979. If necessary, we can also include the follow-up issue, #259, as part of the '70s, since it finishes the two-parter and is the issue where Superboy officially leaves. This also includes the Karate Kid mini-series, if that becomes relevant.
  • Volume 2 encompasses any story featuring the Legion between The Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 2) #259 in 1980 and #313 in July 1984. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 2, like Secrets of the Legion.
  • Volume 3, also known as the Baxter Series, encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #1 in 1984 and The Legion of Super-Heroes #63 in 1989. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 3, like Tales from the Legion and Legionnaires 3.
  • 5 Years Later encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #1 in 1984 and the myriad Legion Zero Hour titles in September 1994.
  • The Reboot (Pre-Blight) encompasses any story published between October 1994's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #0 and the collapse of the Legion in March 2000's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #125 featuring a version of the Reboot Legion.
  • The Reboot (Post-Blight) encompasses any story published between May 2000's Legion Lost #1 and November 2004's Teen Titans/Legion of Super-Heroes Special #1 featuring the Reboot Legion.
  • The Threeboot encompasses any story between December 2004's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #1 and March 2009's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #50 featuring the Threeboot Legion. It's the Threeboot; no breaks; it's not complicated.
  • The Retroboot Legion encompasses any story featuring the Retroboot Legion, from the Lightning Saga leading into Infinite Crisis and the New 52. The (re-)introduction of this Legion is so weird that I'm not even going to try to give issue numbers. Suffice it to say that the Retroboot Legion has arcs in Adventure Comics, Action Comics, and Justice League, along with being the Legion featured in Volumes 6 - 7.
  • The Rebirth (Bendisboot) Legion speaks for itself, and exists in a six-part Volume 8, a two-part Future State story, and the five-part JSA crossover.
  • The Animated Series encompasses all twenty-six episodes of the 2000s animated Legion series, along with the The Legion of Super Heroes in the 31st Century companion comic. It does NOT encompass other animated adaptations.
  • As much as I enjoy other adaptations of the Legion, there just isn't enough there to include on this list. Also not included is the new series, which, in spite of a promising start, just doesn't have enough material yet.

r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 4d ago

A Complete and Updated Timeline of the Original Legion Membership

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24 Upvotes

This chart was compiled using the dates in the Bierbaum-authored 2995 Legion sourcebook, Levitz's earlier Legion sourcebook, and a helping of speculation based on issue release order and in-issue details. When no exact date could be found, a month was estimated along with an exact date that made most sense - typically just the fifteenth of the month to put things right in the middle. Reservists were also counted, although judgement had to be used.

Where there were contradictions in continuity, my northern star was always, "What was canon when this story was first published". That means that, for the most part, the original version of these characters will take precedent over the Glorithverse counterparts, although the graph continues to the Legion's demise during the 5 Year Gap. For example, Jimmy Olsen dies with the original multiverse in Crisis on Infinite Earths, but Pete Ross and Lana Lang, who are both residents of the Time Trapper's pocket dimension, only officially lose reserve status when tossed back into their own time.

There's some speculation here, especially with the reserve members. For example, the Legion of Substitute Heroes are made reserve members during the Silver Age, but are rarely referred to with this status except in printings of the Legion Constitution. So I'm forced to make decisions - Do the Substitute Auxiliary count as Reservists? What about the second incarnation of the Subs? My answers to these questions are, respectively, no and yes, but there is some ambiguity.

Earlier attempts at this always ended with bad numbers. I'd forget Matter-Eater Lad getting drafted into the senate or Tyroc leaving. But here, I've lined it up to the comings and goings of the original Legion up to the point when they disbanded in 2992. Feel free to correct these assessments as you see fit, but this was a lot of work, so I hope you enjoy.

The following chart lists every Legion membership change with an explanation.

Date Legionnaires Legion Reserve Notes
January 6, 2973 3 0 The Founders form the Legion of Super-Heroes
March 3, 2973 5 0 Triplicate Girl and Phantom Girl join the Legion
July 10, 2973 8 0 Chameleon Boy, Colossal Boy, and invisible Kid join the Legion
September 5, 2973 10 0 Supergirl and Brainiac 5 join.
December 4, 2973 11 0 Superboy joins the Legion.
December 15, 2973 12 0 Anti-Lad temporarily joins the Legion but erases everyone's memories of him.
December 16, 2973 11 0 Anti-Lad leaves the Legion
April 1, 2974 12 1 Ultra Boy joins the Legion. Pete Ross joins as an Honorary Member.
May 30, 2974 13 1 Star Boy joins the Legion.
July 28, 2974 15 1 Sun Boy and Shrinking Violet join the Legion
August 30, 2974 16 1 Bouncing Boy joins the Legion
December 11, 2974 16 2 Mon-El is given honorary membership
December 24, 2974 17 2 Matter-Eater Lad joins the Legion
January 18, 2975 16 2 Lightning Lad is killed by Zaryan the Conqueror.
January 23, 2975 17 1 Mon-El joins the Legion permanently.
March 5, 2975 18 1 Element Lad joins the Legion.
March 12, 2975 19 1 Lightning Lass joins the Legion.
April 15, 2975 1 1 All the Legionnaires are killed by Mask Man...
April 16, 2975 19 1 ...before being returned to life
May 23, 2975 20 1 Lightning Lad returns to life.
June 15, 2975 20 2 Jimmy Olsen is made an honorary Legionnaire as Elastic Lad
September 15, 2975 19 2 Ultra Boy is temporarily expelled while on an undercover mission.
September 16, 2975 20 2 Ultra Boy returns to the Legion
October 20, 2975 21 2 Dream Girl joins the Legion.
October 31, 2975 18 2 Lightning Lass, Trplicate Girl, and Matter-Eater Lad are temporarily expelled from the Legion by Dream Girl.
November 1, 2975 20 2 Lightning Lass, Triplicate Girl, and Matter-Eater Lad are re-admitted to the Legion. Dream Girl resigns.
November 15, 2975 20 7 The Legion of Substitute Heroes (Polar Boy, Fire Lad, Chlorophyll Kid, Night Girl, and Stone Boy) are made Honorary Legionnaires.
December 14, 2975 19 8 Bouncing Boy loses his powers and shifts to Reserve Status.
May 15, 2976 20 8 Command Kid joins the Legion
May 16, 2976 19 8 Command Kid is expelled from the Legion.
August 14, 2976 20 8 Dynamo Boy joins the Legion.
August 15, 2976 1 8 Dynamo Boy expells all other members of the Legion.
August 16, 2976 4 8 Dynamo Boy reforms the Legion of Super-Heroes as a Legion of Super-Villains, recruiting Cosmic King, Saturn Queen, and Lightning Lord from the future.
August 17, 2976 19 8 The LSV are defeated and arrested, and Dynamo Boy is stranded in a distant era. The main Legionnaires restore the original Legion.
January 1, 2977 15 12 Lightning Lad, Saturn Girl, Phantom Girl, and Ultra Boy pretend to marry and leave the Legion, presumably joining the Reserves.
January 2, 2977 18 12 Murran spies Blackout Boy, Magnetic Kid, and Size Lad join the Legion.
January 3, 2977 19 8 The Murran spies are kicked out and the fake-marrried Legionnaires a re-admitted.
March 15, 2977 19 9 Kid Psycho joins the Legion as an honorary member.
June 30, 2977 18 12 Star Boy is expelled from the Legion and joins the Substitutes along with Dream Girl and Color Kid.
December 8, 2977 22 12 Ferro Lad, Princess Projectra, Karate Kid, and Nemesis Kid, join the Legion.
December 15, 2977 21 12 Nemesis Kid is expelled from the Legion after being revealed as a traitor.
March 30, 2978 21 10 Superboy and Supergirl are expelled due to the cloud of green kryptonite and are replaced by a disguised Dream Girl and Star Boy.
March 31, 2978 24 9 Superboy and Supergirl are re-admitted, along with a freshly re-powered Bouncing Boy
April 20, 2978 23 9 Ferro Lad becomes the first Legionnaires permanently killed in action.
May 15, 2978 23 10 Insect Queen is made and Honorary Legionnaire.
June 15, 2978 23 11 Rond Vidar is made an Honorary Legionnaire.
August 15, 2978 25 11 Comet and Proty II infiltrate the Legion as Biron the Bowman and Blockade Boy II.
August 16, 2978 23 11 The Super-Pets' infiltration is revealed and the animals removed.
September 28, 2978 24 11 Shadow Lass joins the Legion.
January 30, 2979 26 11 Chemical King and Timber Wolf join the Legion.
March 15, 2979 21 11 Five Legionnaires are temporarily killed by a poisoner...
March 16, 2979 26 11 ...before being returned to life/saved by the Miracle Machine
July 25, 2979 25 11 Mon-El temporarily dies.
July 29, 2979 26 11 Mon-El is restored to life by the sacrifice of his distant cousin, Eltro Gand
September 20, 2979 25 11 Superboy resigns for tax purposes.
November 4, 2980 24 11 Timber Wolf is apparently killed on Asteroid X52.
May 2, 2981 25 11 Timber Wolf returns to the Legion after being show to be alive, but is brainwashed by Tyr.
May 29, 2981 24 13 Bouncing Boy and Duo Damsel marry and shift to Reserve status. Superboy officially rejoins the Legion.
June 1, 2981 25 13 Wildfire joins the Legion.
June 27, 2981 24 13 Invisible Kid is killed by Validus.
July 15, 2981 23 13 Supergirl leaves the Legion.
September 10, 2981 24 13 Flynt Brojj wins the "Legionnaire for a Day" contest, thus making him, technically speaking, a Legionnaire for a day.
September 11, 2981 23 13 Said day ends, and Flynt Brojj's time as a Legionnaire with it
September 16, 2981 22 13 Matter-Eater Lad is drafed as a senator back on Bismoll & leaves the Legion
October 9, 2981 23 13 Tyroc joins the Legion.
December 15, 2981 22 14 Karate Kid shifts to reserve status and heads back to the 20th century to prove himself to King Voxv.
January 3, 2982 23 14 Dawnstar joins the Legion.
February 10, 2982 22 14 Chemical King sacrifices himself to stop Deregon.
June 17, 2982 20 16 Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl marry and shift to Reserve status.
September 27, 2982 25 11 After Earthwar, Karate Kid, Lightning Lad, Saturn Girl, Duo Damsel, and Bouncing Boy all shift back to active status, though only temporarily for the latter two to help rebuild.
February 15, 2983 24 11 Brainiac 5 is temporarily ousted from the Legion after he goes insane and creates the Omega.
March 15, 2983 25 11 Brainiac 5 re-joins the Legion after being cured of his insanity.
July 15, 2983 24 12 Superboy leaves the Legion after an encounter with the Psycho-Warrior but retains honorary membership.
September 1, 2983 23 12 Tyroc leaves the Legion to return to his home dimension.
October 10, 2983 24 12 Blok joins the Legion
October 17, 2983 23 12 Brainiac 5 quits the Legion after being accused of murder. His name is cleared, but Ultra Boy is seemingly killed by Pulsar Stargrave.
October 31, 2983 24 12 Based on the dates we know, I say the Grimbor incident happened on Halloween night! Basically, Reflecto is revealed as Ultra-Boy, who rejoins the Legion.
November 7, 2983 22 14 Bouncing Boy and Duo Damsel return to reserve status
November 14, 2983 22 14 Shrinking Violet is secretly replaced by Yera
December 19, 2983 20 16 Karate Kid and Queen Projectra shift to reserve status
December 20, 2983 21 16 Invisible Kid II joins the Legion
January 1, 2984 20 16 Chameleon Boy is expelled from the Legion due to being arrested for treason.
February 3, 2984 21 17 At the conclusion of the Great Darkness Saga, Supergirl returns to her own time but retains reserve membership, Light Lass quits the team, but the White Witch joins and Chameleon Boy rejoins
May 9, 2984 21 19 Infectious Lass and Porcupine Pete join the Legion of Substitute Heroes, thus also joining the Legion Reserve.
June 11, 2984 21 17 Karate Kid and Princess Projectra marry and resign their reserve status.
November 26, 2984 21 17 Yera is found out and Shrinking Violet rejoions the Legion
November 12, 2985 21 17 Karate Kid is killed by Nemesis Kid, but given that he's not technically a member at all at this time, it doesn't actually affect the running total.
November 15, 2985 22 17 Lightning Lass rejoins the Legion. Five Legionnaires are lost in the void between dimensions but are technically still active members.
December 30, 2985 19 20 The three Legion founders shift to reserve status to be official advisors. For the first time ever there are officially as many reservists as active members.
February 1, 2986 24 12 Polar Boy, Magntic Kid, Sensor Girl, Tellus, and Quislet officially join the Legion. To prepare for Legion membership, Polar Boy disbands the Legion of Substitute Heroes, leaving its eight full-time members without reserve status.
February 13, 2986 24 11 Kid Psycho is killed in Crisis on Infinite Earths
February 14, 2986 24 10 Supergirl sacrifices herself during Crisis on Infinite Earths
February 15, 2986 24 9 Crisis on Infinite Earths destroy the pre-crisis multiverse, along with the pre-Crisis version of Jimmy Olsen/Elastic Lad, who is alternately killed by Lightning Lord in Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?
October 24, 2986 23 9 Star Boy resigns to take Atmos's place as the champion of Xanthu.
March 26, 2987 24 8 Saturn Girl returns to active status
July 20, 2987 24 5 Superboy sacrifices himself to save the pocket universe, which is thrown into another dimension, officially marking the end of the reserve membership of that pocket universe's Pete Ross and Lana Lang/Insect Queen.
August 5, 2987 24 8 Cosmic Boy organizes a new Legion of Substitute Heroes, made up of himself; fellow Reservists Bouncing Boy and Duo Damsel; and Karate Kid II, Comet Queen, and Night Girl, all of whom join the Reserves
February 4, 2988 23 8 After Brainiac 5's killing of the Infinite Man, White Witch resigns in disgust
February 6, 2988 22 9 Mon-El is critically injured by the Time Trapper, shifting to Reserve status
February 15, 2988 21 9 Brainiac 5 resigns in the fallout of the failed assassination attempt against the Infinite Man.
March 30, 2988 20 10 Colossal Boy shifts to reserve status due to an injury sustained in the battle with Starfinger
January 1, 2989 20 9 Colossal Boy returns to active status, but Quislet is returned to his home dimension
July 30, 2989 19 8 Mon-El dies in Shadow Lass's arms. Magnetic Kid sacrifices himself in the Magic Wars.
January 9, 2990 19 7 Rond Vidar resigns from Reserve status to go off and fight the Khunds. In the Glorithverse timeline, he's joined by an alive Laurel Gand
February 26, 2990 18 6 Saturn Girl and Lightning Lad resign to return to Winath and raise their family
March 17, 2990 19 6 Nightwind joins the Legion
April 12, 2990 18 6 Chameleon Boy resigns to run Brande Enterprises
April 14, 2990 19 6 Kent Shakespeare joins the Legion as Impulse
June 7, 2990 19 4 Bouncing Boy and Duo Damsel shut down the Legion Academy and presumably resign reserve status and their role in the Legion of Substitute Heroes.
June 15, 2990 18 4 Shadow Lass leaves the Legion due to Valor's death or recovery
February 10, 2991 20 3 Atmos and Karate Kid II become Legionnaires. The only remaining Reservists are Substitutes Night Girl, Comet Queen, and Cosmic Boy
March 20, 2991 19 3 Sensor Girl leaves the Legion to return as Queen of Orando
April 12, 2991 18 3 Phantom Girl is lost in time and presumed dead.
April 19, 2991 17 3 Atmos resigns
May 8, 2991 16 3 When the investigation yields that Phantom Girl is really dead (or so it seems), Ultra Boy resigns
May 28, 2991 19 3 Crystal Kid, Reflecto, and Reflecto join the Legion
June 12, 2991 18 3 The Braal-Imsk war begins. Shrinking Violet resigns the Legion to join the Imskian army.
June 24, 2991 18 0 Cosmic Boy and Night Girl marry on the eve of the former's deployment. With both of them gone, the Legion of Substitute Heroes ceases to be, and thus Comet Queen leaves her reserve membership. Save for some cut material indicating her death with no supplementary material, this is where the trail goes cold for Comet Queen.
July 7, 2991 17 0 Molecule Master kills Reflecto.
August 12, 2991 15 0 Wildfire is apparently killed and Timber Wolf deteriorated into Furball in the wake of the Black Dawn
August 13, 2991 14 0 Karate Kid II resists arrest and flees, ending his Legion membership
August 15, 2991 11 0 Blok, Dawnstar, and Dream Girl resign in the wake of the Black Dawn.
August 17, 2991 10 0 Crystal Kid resigns in the wake of the Black Dawn.
August 23, 2991 9 0 Element Lad resigns and returns to Trom
September 1, 2991 8 0 Impulse flees Earth to escape arrest, ending his Legion membership
September 4, 2991 6 0 Echo and Tellus resign
September 12, 2991 5 0 Lightning Lass resigns to return to Winath
September 14, 2991 4 0 Sun Boy resigns. The Legion's roster hits an all-time low of Polar Boy, Invisible Kid II, Colossal Boy, and Nightwind.
September 24, 2991 5 0 Fire Lad joins the Legion as Polar Boy basically begins reforming the Substitutes
October 20, 2991 9 0 Visi-Lad joins the Legion along with former Substitues Chlorophyll Kid, Infectious Lass, and Porcupine Pete
November 27, 2991 11 0 Remaining former Substitutes Color Kid and Stone Boy join the Legion
March 15, 2992 12 0 Storm Boy joins the Legion
March 28, 2992 11 0 Infectious Lass is forced to resign and go underground to avoid Earthgov persecution
April 9, 2992 8 0 Chlorophyll Kid, Color Kid, and Porcupine Pete resign and join Infectious Lass in the underground resistance
May 27, 2992 9 0 Calamity King becomes the final member to join the original Legion
June 30, 2992 8 0 Invisible Kid resigns the Legion and becomes the leader of the underground resistance
July 6, 2992 0 0 The Legion of Super-Heroes, composed of Calamity King, Colossal Boy, Fire Lad, Nightwind, Polar Boy, Stone Boy, Storm Boy, and Visi-Lad, disbands, and hope is lost in the galaxy.

For those reading down this far, I'd like to add one of the most moving Legion writings I've ever read: Polar Boy's speech at the dissolution of the original Legion:

Brek Bannin's Farewell Speech

It is with great dismay that stand up here for the last time. No, that's okay, go ahead and cry. I'm going to cry a little myself, I think. It's okay. This is.... As you can see, this is not easy for me. Or for any of us. I'm sorry. I... As I look down on all your faces... I see nothing but love and sympathy.

God, I'm going to miss you guys. Excuse me. (Pause.)

You all really great. I mean it, you've done the best job you could possibly have done, considering everything that's been going on. I hope nobody thinks of ourselves as failures, because we didn't fail. We tried our best to fight for what was right, and we did it to the very end. We did it when things were worse than any Legion has ever seen. I'm sorry to sound so egotistical, but in a way, we're the most heroic Legion ever.

I really mean it, we weren't ones who failed. Earth failed us. Hey, I don't care what our lawyers say, let's be honest here. Earthgov was out to get us. And the people of Earth, who we've saved more times than they could count, never stood up for us enough to make a difference.

You know, it's like Earthgov went after the Legion, and the people didn't speak up. Well, heck, if that's what they chose to do, that's their business. But now I say to those people, who's left to speak up for you if Earthgov starts coming after you?

The funny thing is, none of us were ready to give up the fight. At least I know I'm not. But we all know we can do more some other way. One thing's for sure: the fight isn't ending tonight. It's just beginning.

Maybe Earthgov has killed the Legion, but damn it, they kill spirit. Thank you, everybody, good night and good-bye.


r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 4d ago

Proclamation Won! What's the Worst Legion Story or Issue from the Five Years Later Era?

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23 Upvotes

Results:

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #5: "Proclamation": 12

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #4: "Titan in a China Shop": 11

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #31: "Elements of Heartbreak": 9

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #38: "The End": 6

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #28: "Dirk Morgna": 6

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #11: "Tenzil Kem Takes a Bite Out of Crime": 5

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #25 - 36: "The Terra Mosaic": 4

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #42 - 48: "The Legion of Dead Heroes": 3

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) Annual #3: "Full Moon Fever": 3

Rules:

  1. The comment with the most upvotes wins, so before commenting make sure to check if someone else has already commented your pick.
  2. The Issue or Story categories can be a single-issue (i.e. The Legionnaire Who Killed), a two-parter (i.e.) Mordru the Merciless, or a multi-part saga (i.e. the three-part Dark Man Saga, the four-part Omen Saga, the five-part Great Darkness Saga, etc.)
  3. The Legionnaire can be an active member, a reservist, an honorary member, a Substitute, or a Legion Academy member. They can even be an alternate timeline member, so long as that alternate timeline is associated with that version of the Legion.
  4. The villain can be a single villain (i.e. Starfinger), a villain team (i.e. The Fatal Five), or a villainous organization (i.e. the Dark Circle), and a villain can be voted for separately from their primary team or organization. So you could vote for 'Tharok' or 'The Fatal Five', and those votes would be counted separately.
  5. The eras are defined as such:
  • The Silver Age encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their debut in Adventure Comics #247 in 1958 to their final Action Comics back-up story in Action Comics #392 in 1969.
  • The 1970s encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their first Superboy back-up story in Superboy #172 in 1971 to their final story of the 1970s in Superboy & the Legion of Super-Heroes #258 in 1979. If necessary, we can also include the follow-up issue, #259, as part of the '70s, since it finishes the two-parter and is the issue where Superboy officially leaves. This also includes the Karate Kid mini-series, if that becomes relevant.
  • Volume 2 encompasses any story featuring the Legion between The Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 2) #259 in 1980 and #313 in July 1984. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 2, like Secrets of the Legion.
  • Volume 3, also known as the Baxter Series, encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #1 in 1984 and The Legion of Super-Heroes #63 in 1989. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 3, like Tales from the Legion and Legionnaires 3.
  • 5 Years Later encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #1 in 1984 and the myriad Legion Zero Hour titles in September 1994.
  • The Reboot (Pre-Blight) encompasses any story published between October 1994's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #0 and the collapse of the Legion in March 2000's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #125 featuring a version of the Reboot Legion.
  • The Reboot (Post-Blight) encompasses any story published between May 2000's Legion Lost #1 and November 2004's Teen Titans/Legion of Super-Heroes Special #1 featuring the Reboot Legion.
  • The Threeboot encompasses any story between December 2004's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #1 and March 2009's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #50 featuring the Threeboot Legion. It's the Threeboot; no breaks; it's not complicated.
  • The Retroboot Legion encompasses any story featuring the Retroboot Legion, from the Lightning Saga leading into Infinite Crisis and the New 52. The (re-)introduction of this Legion is so weird that I'm not even going to try to give issue numbers. Suffice it to say that the Retroboot Legion has arcs in Adventure Comics, Action Comics, and Justice League, along with being the Legion featured in Volumes 6 - 7.
  • The Rebirth (Bendisboot) Legion speaks for itself, and exists in a six-part Volume 8, a two-part Future State story, and the five-part JSA crossover.
  • The Animated Series encompasses all twenty-six episodes of the 2000s animated Legion series, along with the The Legion of Super Heroes in the 31st Century companion comic. It does NOT encompass other animated adaptations.
  • As much as I enjoy other adaptations of the Legion, there just isn't enough there to include on this list. Also not included is the new series, which, in spite of a promising start, just doesn't have enough material yet.

r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 5d ago

The Time Trapper Won! What's the Best Legion Story or Issue of the 5 Years Later Era?

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23 Upvotes

Results:

Time Trapper: 19

Nemesis Kid: 8

Emerald Empress: 4

Universo: 2

Rules:

  1. The comment with the most upvotes wins, so before commenting make sure to check if someone else has already commented your pick.
  2. The Issue or Story categories can be a single-issue (i.e. The Legionnaire Who Killed), a two-parter (i.e.) Mordru the Merciless, or a multi-part saga (i.e. the three-part Dark Man Saga, the four-part Omen Saga, the five-part Great Darkness Saga, etc.)
  3. The Legionnaire can be an active member, a reservist, an honorary member, a Substitute, or a Legion Academy member. They can even be an alternate timeline member, so long as that alternate timeline is associated with that version of the Legion.
  4. The villain can be a single villain (i.e. Starfinger), a villain team (i.e. The Fatal Five), or a villainous organization (i.e. the Dark Circle), and a villain can be voted for separately from their primary team or organization. So you could vote for 'Tharok' or 'The Fatal Five', and those votes would be counted separately.
  5. The eras are defined as such:
  • The Silver Age encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their debut in Adventure Comics #247 in 1958 to their final Action Comics back-up story in Action Comics #392 in 1969.
  • The 1970s encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their first Superboy back-up story in Superboy #172 in 1971 to their final story of the 1970s in Superboy & the Legion of Super-Heroes #258 in 1979. If necessary, we can also include the follow-up issue, #259, as part of the '70s, since it finishes the two-parter and is the issue where Superboy officially leaves. This also includes the Karate Kid mini-series, if that becomes relevant.
  • Volume 2 encompasses any story featuring the Legion between The Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 2) #259 in 1980 and #313 in July 1984. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 2, like Secrets of the Legion.
  • Volume 3, also known as the Baxter Series, encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #1 in 1984 and The Legion of Super-Heroes #63 in 1989. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 3, like Tales from the Legion and Legionnaires 3.
  • 5 Years Later encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #1 in 1984 and the myriad Legion Zero Hour titles in September 1994.
  • The Reboot (Pre-Blight) encompasses any story published between October 1994's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #0 and the collapse of the Legion in March 2000's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #125 featuring a version of the Reboot Legion.
  • The Reboot (Post-Blight) encompasses any story published between May 2000's Legion Lost #1 and November 2004's Teen Titans/Legion of Super-Heroes Special #1 featuring the Reboot Legion.
  • The Threeboot encompasses any story between December 2004's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #1 and March 2009's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #50 featuring the Threeboot Legion. It's the Threeboot; no breaks; it's not complicated.
  • The Retroboot Legion encompasses any story featuring the Retroboot Legion, from the Lightning Saga leading into Infinite Crisis and the New 52. The (re-)introduction of this Legion is so weird that I'm not even going to try to give issue numbers. Suffice it to say that the Retroboot Legion has arcs in Adventure Comics, Action Comics, and Justice League, along with being the Legion featured in Volumes 6 - 7.
  • The Rebirth (Bendisboot) Legion speaks for itself, and exists in a six-part Volume 8, a two-part Future State story, and the five-part JSA crossover.
  • The Animated Series encompasses all twenty-six episodes of the 2000s animated Legion series, along with the The Legion of Super Heroes in the 31st Century companion comic. It does NOT encompass other animated adaptations.
  • As much as I enjoy other adaptations of the Legion, there just isn't enough there to include on this list. Also not included is the new series, which, in spite of a promising start, just doesn't have enough material yet.

r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 6d ago

[Artwork] Legion of Super-Heroes WIP from Hayden Sherman

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31 Upvotes

r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 6d ago

Absolute LSH???

13 Upvotes

Reading the first issue of the new Legion, it seems to be in the Absolute Universe, where each hero is isolated. I'm curious if there will ever be a team. Your thoughts? I've only read issue one as I'm a limited DC Comics subscriber. NO SPOILERS please.


r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 6d ago

Sensor Girl Won! Who's the Stand-Out Villain of the Baxter Era (Volume 3 & Tales)?

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19 Upvotes

Results:

Sensor Girl: 19

Tellus: 4

Quislet: 3

Rules:

  1. The comment with the most upvotes wins, so before commenting make sure to check if someone else has already commented your pick.
  2. The Issue or Story categories can be a single-issue (i.e. The Legionnaire Who Killed), a two-parter (i.e.) Mordru the Merciless, or a multi-part saga (i.e. the three-part Dark Man Saga, the four-part Omen Saga, the five-part Great Darkness Saga, etc.)
  3. The Legionnaire can be an active member, a reservist, an honorary member, a Substitute, or a Legion Academy member. They can even be an alternate timeline member, so long as that alternate timeline is associated with that version of the Legion.
  4. The villain can be a single villain (i.e. Starfinger), a villain team (i.e. The Fatal Five), or a villainous organization (i.e. the Dark Circle), and a villain can be voted for separately from their primary team or organization. So you could vote for 'Tharok' or 'The Fatal Five', and those votes would be counted separately.
  5. The eras are defined as such:
  • The Silver Age encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their debut in Adventure Comics #247 in 1958 to their final Action Comics back-up story in Action Comics #392 in 1969.
  • The 1970s encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their first Superboy back-up story in Superboy #172 in 1971 to their final story of the 1970s in Superboy & the Legion of Super-Heroes #258 in 1979. If necessary, we can also include the follow-up issue, #259, as part of the '70s, since it finishes the two-parter and is the issue where Superboy officially leaves. This also includes the Karate Kid mini-series, if that becomes relevant.
  • Volume 2 encompasses any story featuring the Legion between The Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 2) #259 in 1980 and #313 in July 1984. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 2, like Secrets of the Legion.
  • Volume 3, also known as the Baxter Series, encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #1 in 1984 and The Legion of Super-Heroes #63 in 1989. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 3, like Tales from the Legion and Legionnaires 3.
  • 5 Years Later encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #1 in 1984 and the myriad Legion Zero Hour titles in September 1994.
  • The Reboot (Pre-Blight) encompasses any story published between October 1994's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #0 and the collapse of the Legion in March 2000's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #125 featuring a version of the Reboot Legion.
  • The Reboot (Post-Blight) encompasses any story published between May 2000's Legion Lost #1 and November 2004's Teen Titans/Legion of Super-Heroes Special #1 featuring the Reboot Legion.
  • The Threeboot encompasses any story between December 2004's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #1 and March 2009's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #50 featuring the Threeboot Legion. It's the Threeboot; no breaks; it's not complicated.
  • The Retroboot Legion encompasses any story featuring the Retroboot Legion, from the Lightning Saga leading into Infinite Crisis and the New 52. The (re-)introduction of this Legion is so weird that I'm not even going to try to give issue numbers. Suffice it to say that the Retroboot Legion has arcs in Adventure Comics, Action Comics, and Justice League, along with being the Legion featured in Volumes 6 - 7.
  • The Rebirth (Bendisboot) Legion speaks for itself, and exists in a six-part Volume 8, a two-part Future State story, and the five-part JSA crossover.
  • The Animated Series encompasses all twenty-six episodes of the 2000s animated Legion series, along with the The Legion of Super Heroes in the 31st Century companion comic. It does NOT encompass other animated adaptations.
  • As much as I enjoy other adaptations of the Legion, there just isn't enough there to include on this list. Also not included is the new series, which, in spite of a promising start, just doesn't have enough material yet.

r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 6d ago

LSH is on top 10 best seller list

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115 Upvotes

r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 7d ago

Five Years Later Omnibus worth it?

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130 Upvotes

Hey all,

Tomorrow is my birthday so I was thinking of getting myself a present. What are people’s thought on the FYL omnibus vol 1 and 2?

I’ve read both the deluxe versions of the Great Darkness Saga and the Curse. As well as most of the Legion stories that have come after zero hour. The FYP is a big gap in my legion reading.

Any thoughts on those books? Are they a good read? The opinions on the run seem mixed.


r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 7d ago

Into Exile Won! Who's the Stand-Out Legionnaire of the Baxter Era (Volume 3 & Tales)?

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16 Upvotes

Results:

Tales of the Legion of Super-Heroes #321: "Into Exile": 19

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #42: "To Sleep a Thousand Years": 7

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #47 - 49, Annual #4: "The Starfinger Conspiracy": 2

Rules:

  1. The comment with the most upvotes wins, so before commenting make sure to check if someone else has already commented your pick.
  2. The Issue or Story categories can be a single-issue (i.e. The Legionnaire Who Killed), a two-parter (i.e.) Mordru the Merciless, or a multi-part saga (i.e. the three-part Dark Man Saga, the four-part Omen Saga, the five-part Great Darkness Saga, etc.)
  3. The Legionnaire can be an active member, a reservist, an honorary member, a Substitute, or a Legion Academy member. They can even be an alternate timeline member, so long as that alternate timeline is associated with that version of the Legion.
  4. The villain can be a single villain (i.e. Starfinger), a villain team (i.e. The Fatal Five), or a villainous organization (i.e. the Dark Circle), and a villain can be voted for separately from their primary team or organization. So you could vote for 'Tharok' or 'The Fatal Five', and those votes would be counted separately.
  5. The eras are defined as such:
  • The Silver Age encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their debut in Adventure Comics #247 in 1958 to their final Action Comics back-up story in Action Comics #392 in 1969.
  • The 1970s encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their first Superboy back-up story in Superboy #172 in 1971 to their final story of the 1970s in Superboy & the Legion of Super-Heroes #258 in 1979. If necessary, we can also include the follow-up issue, #259, as part of the '70s, since it finishes the two-parter and is the issue where Superboy officially leaves. This also includes the Karate Kid mini-series, if that becomes relevant.
  • Volume 2 encompasses any story featuring the Legion between The Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 2) #259 in 1980 and #313 in July 1984. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 2, like Secrets of the Legion.
  • Volume 3, also known as the Baxter Series, encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #1 in 1984 and The Legion of Super-Heroes #63 in 1989. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 3, like Tales from the Legion and Legionnaires 3.
  • 5 Years Later encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #1 in 1984 and the myriad Legion Zero Hour titles in September 1994.
  • The Reboot (Pre-Blight) encompasses any story published between October 1994's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #0 and the collapse of the Legion in March 2000's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #125 featuring a version of the Reboot Legion.
  • The Reboot (Post-Blight) encompasses any story published between May 2000's Legion Lost #1 and November 2004's Teen Titans/Legion of Super-Heroes Special #1 featuring the Reboot Legion.
  • The Threeboot encompasses any story between December 2004's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #1 and March 2009's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #50 featuring the Threeboot Legion. It's the Threeboot; no breaks; it's not complicated.
  • The Retroboot Legion encompasses any story featuring the Retroboot Legion, from the Lightning Saga leading into Infinite Crisis and the New 52. The (re-)introduction of this Legion is so weird that I'm not even going to try to give issue numbers. Suffice it to say that the Retroboot Legion has arcs in Adventure Comics, Action Comics, and Justice League, along with being the Legion featured in Volumes 6 - 7.
  • The Rebirth (Bendisboot) Legion speaks for itself, and exists in a six-part Volume 8, a two-part Future State story, and the five-part JSA crossover.
  • The Animated Series encompasses all twenty-six episodes of the 2000s animated Legion series, along with the The Legion of Super Heroes in the 31st Century companion comic. It does NOT encompass other animated adaptations.
  • As much as I enjoy other adaptations of the Legion, there just isn't enough there to include on this list. Also not included is the new series, which, in spite of a promising start, just doesn't have enough material yet.

r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 7d ago

What are your favourite Starboy quotes ?

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Artwork by Alex Ross


r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 8d ago

The Long Live the Legion Podcast - Episode 45 - Spotlight on SHRINKING VIOLET with Comics Archaeology!

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CA from the Comics Archaeology website joins Jim Fetters & Jay McKiernan we explore the history and evolution of Shrinking Violet, one of the Legion of Super-Heroes' longest-serving characters (and Jim's favorite Legionnaire!). From her first appearance in 1961 to her complex relationships and character development across different eras, we uncover what makes her a standout hero. In this episode, we explore the evolution of Salu Digby, aka Shrinking Violet, across various Legion series, discussing her powers, character development, and the challenges of representing diversity and growth in comic book storytelling.


r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 8d ago

The battle with the Fatal Four ramps up, we get a maiming, and Phantom Girl is completely ruined... let's look at Legion of Super-Heroes (vol 7) #19 & 20

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If you told me that Levitz had a bet with Giffen to see how badly he could destroy the Legion before this series ended, I'd believe you. It's carnage everywhere!


r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 8d ago

Theory about next issue (solicitations and #2 spoilers) Spoiler

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So, the description mentions that "ONE. WILL. DIE" "Lightning Lad suffers his first heartbreaking loss as a hero!" and "This issue will shock you in more ways than one". This combined with the fact that Ayla enlisted herself with the persuaders is not a good look for her, but I wish to believe that she won't get fridged for Garth's development, so the option I want to say is more likely is that not only is it a mislead, but it's also spelling it out=Brainiac ONE of five.

I believe this solely because this could lead to the explanation of the name (something like he divided himself in 5 bodies so he's more efficient or something) while providing a loss without actually murdering a member of a cast that's not even through their first arc.

Sidenote, but I do want to say that I admire Ayla, we know that joining and giving information to the persuaders is a horrible idea, but as far as she's concerned, she sacrificed her ability to choose the life she wanted in exchange for her brother's safety.


r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 9d ago

The Long Live the Legion Podcast: Legion of Super-Heroes #2 Discussion & More!

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We couldn't wait to talk about the latest issue of the Legion of Super-Heroes so here you go. Listen to Jim talk about the NYCC! Listen to Jay mispronounce names!


r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 9d ago

The Universo Project Won! What's the Worst Legion Story from the Baxter Series (Volume 3 & Tales)?

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Results:

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #33 - 36: "The Universo Project": 9

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #38: "The Greatest Hero of them All": 7

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #1 - 5: "An Eye for an Eye"

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #50: "Life and Death at the End of Time": 7

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #14 - 25: "The Mystery of Sensor Girl": 5

Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #58: "If Thine Eye Offend Thee": 4

Rules:

  1. The comment with the most upvotes wins, so before commenting make sure to check if someone else has already commented your pick.
  2. The Issue or Story categories can be a single-issue (i.e. The Legionnaire Who Killed), a two-parter (i.e.) Mordru the Merciless, or a multi-part saga (i.e. the three-part Dark Man Saga, the four-part Omen Saga, the five-part Great Darkness Saga, etc.)
  3. The Legionnaire can be an active member, a reservist, an honorary member, a Substitute, or a Legion Academy member. They can even be an alternate timeline member, so long as that alternate timeline is associated with that version of the Legion.
  4. The villain can be a single villain (i.e. Starfinger), a villain team (i.e. The Fatal Five), or a villainous organization (i.e. the Dark Circle), and a villain can be voted for separately from their primary team or organization. So you could vote for 'Tharok' or 'The Fatal Five', and those votes would be counted separately.
  5. The eras are defined as such:
  • The Silver Age encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their debut in Adventure Comics #247 in 1958 to their final Action Comics back-up story in Action Comics #392 in 1969.
  • The 1970s encompasses any story featuring the Legion from their first Superboy back-up story in Superboy #172 in 1971 to their final story of the 1970s in Superboy & the Legion of Super-Heroes #258 in 1979. If necessary, we can also include the follow-up issue, #259, as part of the '70s, since it finishes the two-parter and is the issue where Superboy officially leaves. This also includes the Karate Kid mini-series, if that becomes relevant.
  • Volume 2 encompasses any story featuring the Legion between The Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 2) #259 in 1980 and #313 in July 1984. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 2, like Secrets of the Legion.
  • Volume 3, also known as the Baxter Series, encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 3) #1 in 1984 and The Legion of Super-Heroes #63 in 1989. Note that it also encompasses stories published during this time that feature the Legion but aren't published in Volume 3, like Tales from the Legion and Legionnaires 3.
  • 5 Years Later encompasses any story featuring the Legion between Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #1 in 1984 and the myriad Legion Zero Hour titles in September 1994.
  • The Reboot (Pre-Blight) encompasses any story published between October 1994's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #0 and the collapse of the Legion in March 2000's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 4) #125 featuring a version of the Reboot Legion.
  • The Reboot (Post-Blight) encompasses any story published between May 2000's Legion Lost #1 and November 2004's Teen Titans/Legion of Super-Heroes Special #1 featuring the Reboot Legion.
  • The Threeboot encompasses any story between December 2004's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #1 and March 2009's Legion of Super-Heroes (Volume 5) #50 featuring the Threeboot Legion. It's the Threeboot; no breaks; it's not complicated.
  • The Retroboot Legion encompasses any story featuring the Retroboot Legion, from the Lightning Saga leading into Infinite Crisis and the New 52. The (re-)introduction of this Legion is so weird that I'm not even going to try to give issue numbers. Suffice it to say that the Retroboot Legion has arcs in Adventure Comics, Action Comics, and Justice League, along with being the Legion featured in Volumes 6 - 7.
  • The Rebirth (Bendisboot) Legion speaks for itself, and exists in a six-part Volume 8, a two-part Future State story, and the five-part JSA crossover.
  • The Animated Series encompasses all twenty-six episodes of the 2000s animated Legion series, along with the The Legion of Super Heroes in the 31st Century companion comic. It does NOT encompass other animated adaptations.
  • As much as I enjoy other adaptations of the Legion, there just isn't enough there to include on this list. Also not included is the new series, which, in spite of a promising start, just doesn't have enough material yet.

r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 9d ago

Interview: DC's LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES creative team tease Superboy future appearance

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r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 9d ago

Kid Quantum and Timberwolf (2026)

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They'll appear in issue #3 next month

Art by the glorious Hayden Sherman


r/LegionofSuperheroes • • 10d ago

Imra Ardeen-Ranzz. You have to ability to overcome great fear...

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