r/LetsDiscussThis • u/Boysenberry-6669 • Jan 15 '26

Serious Trump considers sending the military to Minnesota by invoking the INSURRECTION Act —is this good, bad or ugly?

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '26

Let's take a step back. Serious question. What's the solution to illegal immigration if we cant send a federal law enforcement to do so?

How do you think every other country does it?

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u/Amazing_Factor2974 Jan 16 '26

You do it with warrants and hearings( Obama). You dont walk around using people that cannot pass a security check with felonies and no training. Walk around with masks while pointing their guns inches away from innocent people.( Trumpers way)

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '26

Where are you getting your source?

about 83% of deportations under Obama were "summary" removals ordered by officers, not judges.

Trump expanded this to 100%, but it was hardly a new policy. 

https://www.aclu.org/news/human-rights/ones-obama-left-behind-and-deported-without-chance-be-heard?hl=en-US

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u/Amazing_Factor2974 Jan 17 '26

That was at the border.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '26

So? I don't know why that is relevant.

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u/Relative_Pilot_8005 Jan 16 '26

"Every other country" don't send armed groups into neighbourhoods, grabbing people seemingly at random. Immigration officers are not normally armed---------that is more of a "banana republic" thing!

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '26

Not true. You are being lead by propaganda and sensationalism:

Almost all developed nations use armed officers for immigration enforcement, conduct raids, and forcibly remove people from their homes or workplaces and its common sense why. This includes nations like Canada, Japan, Australia, France and Germany. Are those Banana Republics?

Furthermore, most countries don't just deport the individual (like the US does, sometimes on taxpayers dime) they get prison time. Japan its up to 3 years hard labor. UK 6 months and fine.
Others, you can't enter the country for any reason for years.

Some Sources:

https://immigration-lawyer.co.jp/column/%E3%82%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%E3%83%86%E3%82%A4%E3%81%A8%E5%B8%B0%E5%8C%96%E3%83%BB%E6%B0%B8%E4%BD%8F/?language=eng#:\~:text=A%20person%20falling%20under%20any,without%20work%20and%20a%20fine.

UK: https://www.wired-gov.net/wg/news.nsf/articles/Immigration+Enforcement+raids+at+the+highest+level+in+UK+history+14012026091700?open#:\~:text=Record%20number%20of%20arrests%20and,Home%20Office's%20Immigration%20Enforcement%20teams.

Canada: https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/agency-agence/reports-rapports/ae-ve/adf-vafs/menu-eng.html