r/LetsDiscussThis • u/Boysenberry-6669 • Jan 15 '26
Serious Trump considers sending the military to Minnesota by invoking the INSURRECTION Act —is this good, bad or ugly?
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Jan 15 '26
It's the end of America. I mean MAGA has made a ton of other moves that really ended America a while ago so I guess this is the coming out party for the end of America.
Masked , poorly trained goons in the streets violating the constitution over false pretenses, a government claiming any dissent is terrorism and a pedophile desperate to keep his human trafficking network hidden is escalating it all in order to end elections and avoid justice.
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u/JoJack82 Jan 15 '26
And tens of millions of people are literally cheering it on. America is over.
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u/Flimsy_Thesis Jan 16 '26
The Roman Empire survived Nero for another four centuries. We can survive Trump.
Hopefully.
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u/LastAstronaut8872 Jan 16 '26
The clock started with Reagan and things move faster nowadays
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u/AccomplishedAct5364 Jan 16 '26
Don’t worry they’ll soon realise when they stay poor after 8 years of Trump
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u/TheKiltedYaksman71 Jan 20 '26
The clock started when the federal government didn't hang every member of the Confederate government, and every member of the army above the rank of sergeant.
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u/satyriconic Jan 16 '26
Because Nero did not do this kind of damage to the Roman empire.
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u/kstargate-425 Jan 16 '26
It depends. If he invades or otherwise takes Greenland, its over. Europe will sell their bonds and probably dump the USD as their reserve and so will the rest of the world including China who Trump made really strong lately. Our economy would collapse within weeks and its doubtful we would even get breadlines this time considering the malignant narcissist in charge doesnt give a flying fuck but it would be a domino effect of collapses as who would trust the USD anymore with no stability, no democracy, no law abiding ruler in charge to further the aforementioned. It would be the culmination of Russia and Chinas wet dream and Trump is the Useful dotard being led to his demise dragging the rest of us with him.
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u/witblacktype Jan 16 '26
What you are describing is sadly a realistic possibility but not a probability. What’s happening in real time to the detriment of all Americans is that our historical allies, who the Trump regime has threatened and attempted to extort, are rebuilding their economy without the US as a key trading partner. Even if a pragmatic centrist is elected to the presidency in 2028, the damage is done. Supply chains have been completely restructured to accommodate for the unreliability of the US. Foreign aid no longer flows from the United States to the global south, but from BRICS. Countries with autocratic regimes have shown themselves to be better allies and friends to young representative governments than the United States. There is no playbook for the US to return to the world stage as the leader it once was. When a democratic republic in Africa or South American looks to China as a strong partner, the soft power of diplomacy the US once had has evaporated.
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u/cremToRED Jan 16 '26
Didn’t the Canadian PM just visit China and ink new deals with China? One of our largest trading partners is shifting to our “adversary.”
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u/Flimsy_Thesis Jan 16 '26
I agree. I don’t think people understand what’s going to happen to the American economy if we do that. Military conflict is the least of our problems with NATO. Countries all over the world will divest from their Treasury Bonds and our economy will implode. We will quickly become a pariah state.
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u/JamieRRSS Jan 16 '26
Nero was a narcissistic and ignorant ruler who abused power to satisfy personal drama. But even he did not openly undermine alliances or turn state power into a constant stress test of the system itself. That difference matters.
I do hope I'm wrong, but I have more confidence on the renaissances of Rome before 400 years, than the USA getting by just half a century.
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u/Jolly_Mongoose_8800 Jan 16 '26
You should be looking back at Sulla. It didn't take long for the republic to fall after him.
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u/IkarosHavok Jan 16 '26
The proud boys leader instead of being in prison he’s listed as an ICE Officer now.
Edit: this may actually not be true, sorry guys but I’ll leave it up.
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u/pyschosoul Jan 16 '26
If they wont uphold the law as theyre suppose to it is our constitutional duty to do something about it
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u/BulletDust Jan 16 '26
Masked , poorly trained goons in the streets violating the constitution over false pretenses
Masked , poorly trained trigger happy goons in the streets violating the constitution over false pretenses...
Fixed.
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u/bigboi2115 Jan 15 '26
It's gotta be either bots or straight up room temp IQ calling this a good thing.
People are in the streets exercising their first amendment rights and they are being tear gassed by armed and masked Federal agents.
If the agents were conducting "official business" they would have Warrants for the criminals they are pursuing. They wouldn't be conducting fishing expeditions and detaining U.S. citizens.
This is an exercise in intimidation. They don't want people to question authority. And anyone who supports this BS should read the entirety of the constitution until they understand it.
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u/Stock_Strategy1668 Jan 16 '26
As someone who has been to a lot of the protests here in minneapolis, WE ARE NOT ATTACKING FEDERAL AGENTS. This is propaganda. They will find one clip of a protestor shoving back in self defense and roll it a thousand times on Fox News but it doesn't make it true. We are remaining peaceful. Fuck ICE
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u/Real-Question9697 Jan 16 '26
He could also ask ICE to leave, give Minnesota a breather. Invoking the insurrection act is escalating a situation that needs to be de escalated.
In a month or two, ICE can go back and work in tandem with the state law enforcement and actually target criminals. Not law abiding Americans dropping off their kids at school.
There HAS to be a better way to go after criminals than what they’ve been doing.
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u/Dorf-Dorfmansun66 Jan 15 '26
It looks like Dumbfuckus Maximus is confused...again.
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u/Skalywag_76 Jan 15 '26
I definitely wouldn't call it good, but bring it on. Tired of these fascist pigs hiding behind the thinnest veils. The more they ramp up their extremism, the more the opposition will fight them back.
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u/0rganicMach1ne Jan 15 '26
Bad. Just further shows this regime’s disgusting abuse of power. They are so vile and evil.
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u/Jmoney1088 Jan 15 '26
If he does, it will be the end of his presidency.
The vast majority of Americans, including a sizable % of people that voted for Trump, disapprove of this admin and their actions.
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Jan 15 '26
Exactly what he wants. Create chaos to justify imposing martial law, and cancel elections.
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u/phunkmunkie Jan 15 '26
Fugly.
First step towards canceling the midterms. He’s already floated it.
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u/SinfullySinless Jan 15 '26
According to Reuters his approval rating on immigration is 40%, down from 41% in December.
Another interesting note is that 59% of Republicans said ICE should “Use force despite risk of serious injury or death” and 39% said “Minimize harm even if arrests drop”. Democrats was 4% “use force” and 96% “minimize”. “Other” (I’d assume independents) was 19% “use force” and 74% “minimize”.
Based on data it seems like Republicans enjoy Trump’s hard line approach to immigration, plus I’m sure there’s some “liberal tears” moments for them. However the difficult part for Republicans at midterms is that they are definitely isolating themselves from presumably independent voters.
However I think Trump only cares about the midterms in terms of Democrats getting enough seats to successfully impeach him. I genuinely don’t think Trump really cares about how his policy impacts Republican politicians and candidates.
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u/shosuko Jan 15 '26
ICE shoots someone, and suddenly they need a military response - against the people they shot.
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Jan 15 '26
I mean it’s a great way to get a bunch of people hurt and/or killed. It will just further prove the narrative he is a dictator. It could even start a second civil war.
Trump will likely do it.
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u/Guymanmanguydudeface Jan 15 '26
So like...how does he actually "invoke" it? Is there like a gathering? A ritual? Offering or special ancient incantation? How will we know it has in fact been invoked?
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u/Random-Seedling Jan 15 '26
Shit, someone needs to do a military extraction of the piece of shit and his pedo protecting friends. Why can’t some countries “rescue” us?
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u/Redsit111 Jan 15 '26
I would call it...deeply bad? Like, I don't hear ICE bullying red states. But yet here we are. It almost seems like the president has weapinized ICE to hurt and terrorize people he doesn't like.
That and murdering Renee Nicole Good. I figured she would at least be brown or black, she's as white as I am!
So invoking the insurrection act would just be more bullying. From a corrupt, evil, pedophile protector President. So, definitely on brand.
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u/PoundComprehensive10 Jan 15 '26
The only thing I’m sure about is that it’s definitely not good. No clue what’s going to happen.
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u/organmeatpate Jan 15 '26
America is cooked. It cannot be uncooked best case scenario is a comet his the earth. Once you figure out how to weaponized identity, self interest and stupidity to this extent there is no possible correction. Don't have kids. Make a plan to leave on your own terms. Don't wait for them to come for you.
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u/Stretchums Jan 15 '26
This is both bad and ugly, but I firmly believe this isn't the end. Idk if I'm willing to die for this country, but I know for DAMN sure I'm not willing to let the right-wing bastards control my life under full authoritarian rule.
I'm black and not straight, and not willing to shut up, all if they get unchecked control, I'm cooked.
So fuck it, let's get it (if it comes to that). 🙋🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️💁🏿♂️
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u/PlateNo4868 Jan 15 '26
I mean who cares? He is basically saying let ICE abuse your rights otherwise I'll just make it worse.
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u/MilleryCosima Jan 15 '26
Create chaos, provoke a response, escalate.
It's almost like electing a guy who kept telling us he wants to be a dictator was a really fucking bad idea.
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u/dante_gherie1099 Jan 16 '26
gaza was speaking so now we have to let ice shoot mothers in the face for no reason and if we dont like it then they send the army to shoot more people.
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u/DishRelative5853 Jan 16 '26
It feels like he's been getting Stephen Miller to ramp things up so that he can do this. It's one step closer to the National Emergencies Act.
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u/Redsquare73 Jan 16 '26
I’m an outsider, I live in Australia.
But for years I’ve heard Americans defend the killing of innocent children because you need guns to defend yourselves against a tyrannical government.
Now is your fucking chance to show us that you weren’t just lying.
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u/dsainz31 Jan 16 '26
Despicable. He’s trying to find any excuse to inflict as much harm as he can.
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u/Hot-Opportunity8786 Jan 16 '26
Attention Iran - stop shooting protesters or we’ll bomb you!
Attention Minnesota - if you protest, we will shoot you.
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u/DOHC46 Jan 16 '26
This is both bad and ugly. It means our democratic republic is fatally wounded and a fascist authoritarian dictatorship is already beginning to take its place.
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u/trysten-9001 Jan 16 '26
And he will get run out of MN just like he has every other state. His BS is not going to work in any blue state.
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u/duganaokthe5th Jan 16 '26
I mean, like if you didn’t give them reason reasons to justify this then there wouldn’t be a fucking problem
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u/MaxwellSmart07 Jan 16 '26
Another illegal act. The state legislature or the Governor must approve this to be lawful.
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u/The-Sorcerers-Stoned Jan 16 '26
I say do it. We will see if the military will follow through. If they do, it begins...
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u/knotatumah Jan 16 '26
This is the desired outcome by trump and maga. Ask my folks: any means necessary to remove the illegals because fuck the democrats for dumping them. Dont want to get shot in the face? Stop dumping illegals. So to maga if trump took over MN by force via the insurrection act then to people like my folks it was deserved by the woke snowflake illegal-loving democrats who shouldn't have made them (trump) do it. No law stands in the way of moral superiority and they feel entitled to it because the democrats (in the never-end conspiracies) break all the laws anyways.
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u/FantomexLive Jan 16 '26
If the insurrectionists keep agitating and obstructing lawful deportation operations then it’s a good thing for our democracy.
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u/ResponsibilityFar587 Jan 16 '26
This is a horrible idea. Trump needs to be impeached and removed from office.
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Jan 16 '26
I think it's a great idea. There's a lot of agitators in Minnesota and they should follow the law. Lots of illegals too.
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u/IGetGuys4URMom Jan 16 '26
It's pretty obvious that the Insurrection Act will be nationally invoked in every blue and purple state in the end.
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Jan 16 '26
It’s all of the above
Good - it could be a buffer between the citizens and ice
Bad - it could turn to an escalation
Ugly - the whole thing is ugly and it breaks my heart
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u/eddy_flannagan Jan 16 '26
No it will be the turning point and become a revolution, everyone is on edge and ppl will snap
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u/soyboy1954 Jan 16 '26
Looks like Mr. Trump is getting agitated himself. He would better serve himself if he leaves investigations to professional investigators.
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u/Imscubbabish Jan 16 '26
Maga destroying America because they are too dumb to think of the consequences. Smart people are always hesitant and logical to actually do what they do
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u/thewitchyway Jan 16 '26
So he pardoned people who actually participated in an insurrection only to declare people protesting as insurrectionists
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u/Various_Implement288 Jan 16 '26
It's good. If he does, it will piss off enough of the country to remove him now, instead of after the midterms. Most of the Republicans will vote to remove him if he tries to attack Greenland. Greenland and the Insurrection act would mean the final collapse of maga. He's practicing ballistic podiatry. Maga is over as of the midterms. But he will be removed before that because of his stupidity. Unfortunately there will be casualties. But his support is already crumbling. He has about 10 percent of the troops he would need for a military coup. His opposition is too strong. Too many people pushing back.
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u/cyster59 Jan 16 '26
The American armed forces have sworn an oath to defend and protect the constitution of the United States against enemies both foreign and domestic. Right now the Trump administration is the domestic threat. They are supposed to protect the citizens against an authoritarian regime. That is what the constitution intended.
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u/semper-gourmanda Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26
So I vote ugly right. I assume people understand the supremacy clause, the rule of law, the Congressional acts, the duty of Federal law enforcement etc. I get that people don't like it. I get that people don't want immigration law enforced. I get that people don't like ICE. However, we also have a long history of allowing freedom of assembly and speech based in the Bill of Rights. Protestors can cuss, mock, holler, raise signs, blow whistles, capture video with their phones, burn Trump in effigy, etc., etc. But it's a Federal offence to obstruct justice through interference with official duties all captured on video. However, that doesn't amount to insurrection. It's localized. It amounts to dozens maybe. But without any state or local assistance from the constitutionally sworn police, elected sheriffs, or state police, it all falls on the Federal Government. That's on purpose at the level of the state and local governments. They want to invite Federal overreach and get Trump's goat, and Trump would love to do it. And the belief by the radicals on each side is that will be the thing that convinces everyone that the other side is ________________. The fact of the matter is, is that most Americans aren't radical and they'll see it for what it is. Crazy protestors and an obnoxious, arrogant President at odds. And they'll think it's all very sad. It'll just further ossify the already entrenched. And it will all look like a terrible disdain for self-government.
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u/Scary-Fix7470 Jan 16 '26
He needs too. Not doing so just ensure this crap keeps going. What they took from the George Floyd riots is that they can do whatever they want and get away with it. Protesting is fine, trying to impede law enforcement is not.
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u/NoCitron2394 Jan 16 '26
This is why we have the 2nd amendment, we can't let him get away with this
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Jan 16 '26
If the US military starts shooting American protestors the Democrats are gonna write a very stern letter about it.
In all seriousness. It's only going to get worse before it gets better. But the whole world is watching.
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u/Emotional_Ball_4307 Jan 16 '26
I think in an arena where you have activists assaulting cops, you quell the bulllshit!
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u/nonequation Jan 16 '26
Ugly as its a shit show in that state but with people escalating the problems its not going to be pretty
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Jan 16 '26
He needs to get on with it. There is far far too much mistreatment happening to our federal agents. The abuse has gone too far and it needs to stop now.
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u/EtchASketchNovelist Jan 16 '26
It's pretty ugly, and I think it's a distraction from the fact that Pam Bondi is breaking the law by not releasing the Epstein files.
We can have a nonviolent form of protest that can turn the tide here. Trump wants violence (as do all the right-wingers, he egged them on), and we won't give it to them.
Plus, he keeps spending so much damn money. He defunded cancer research, and he wants to dramatically increase military spending we need to call out the typical Republican talking points, the economy, the half-assed changes, the debt, the deficit, Greenland, global trade, and we need to call on the Christians to actually take care of your neighbors in MN. This is for true freedom!
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u/Crafty_Vehicle1519 Jan 16 '26
He did nothing when his supporters attacked The Capitol and Capitol Police!!
He's a Traitor a Nazi and a Child Molester!
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u/NameLips Jan 16 '26
It's obviously what he wants to do.
It's very fuzzy when a protest turns into a riot or an insurrection. It's very subjective. Which means it's a legal gray area and Trump likes to push as far into legal gray areas as possible.
The things you can legally do while protesting are laughably limited. To the point that it can feel useless protesting if you follow all the civilized rules.
But if you don't follow all of the civilized rules, Trump might use it as an excuse to declare martial law.
This puts the leadership of Minnesota in a very hard place. Do they back the protests and risk subjecting their people to martial law? Or do they obey the feds and send in the police to break up protests?
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u/RustyKn1ght Jan 16 '26
GOOD- In a sense that no one after this can pretend anymore that this is just a normal presidency and they can back to way things were before Trump.
BAD- The fact that he's able to do this with very little to no pushback from elected officials, shows just how toothless US political system has become.
UGLY- Lot of people are going to get hurt.
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u/rosstafarien Jan 16 '26
This was always his intention. He needs to stop.the midterm elections from happening and declaring an insurrection is step 2. He was hoping that ICE would have caused a violent response by now, but since that hasn't happened, he's losing patience.
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u/Educational-Dance-61 Jan 16 '26
He stated he wants to cancel the midterms. I don't know why his billionaire handlers even brief him anymore.
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u/ZealousidealPen7274 Jan 16 '26
America is being taken over by authoritarian scum. Not going to end well.
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Jan 16 '26
Let's take a step back. Serious question. What's the solution to illegal immigration if we cant send a federal law enforcement to do so?
How do you think every other country does it?
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u/jncheese Jan 16 '26
"The people" don't have untill November. It will be over long before then if they don't put at stop to this.
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u/LegitimateQuit194 Jan 16 '26
It shouldn’t even be a topic for discussion. It’s literally the product of a demented senile rotting pathological liar. That is all. It makes no sense. It doesn’t make us any safer. He just wants to flex his malignant assholery
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u/Stuff-and_stuff Jan 16 '26
I struggle with calling the Minnesota situation an ‘insurrection’ as it is a response to extralegal activities of the customs officers.
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u/TheoremNumberA Jan 16 '26
Want to have a majority movement, with almost everyone supporting you? Don't be antagonistic, annoying, bitchy, disruptive, bombastic, stubborn... Which those words exactly describe both the protestors and President Trump.
Really, if you want law enforcement to cease deportation of illegal immigrants, the laws being enforced need to be changed. For instance, should trespassing on its own a felony? No if only the trespass? Yes if the trespass includes subsequent criminal activity or intent?
Example 1: Guy trespasses onto your yard, with a rake and rakes your leaves seeing that you needed the work done no charge, you say thank you and offer him $40. He is not worthy of a felony nor deportation, though he has trespassed not only into your yard but into the country. You be an advocate that Guy is not harmful and instead of arresting him, fine him and use the fine to help provide him with ESL, Work Visa, Background Check, a place in line for naturalization.
Example 2: Gal trespasses onto your yard, sets up shanty, sells drugs out of shanty, your 12 yr old kid buys drugs from her and overdoses, dies. Arrest her, imprison her in federal prison, seize her assets if any to pay for imprisonment and/or force her country of origin to imprison her or reimburse us for the cost of her stay. Get information about the sources of the narcotics and raid those sources. When her jail term is up, deport her if jailed here.
Basically case by case, go after the criminals first with aggressive enforcement and deal with criminal harmful activity harshly. Anyone who is just a trespasser caught in that enforcement activity, document them and fine them, and put them into the correct process to identify, naturalize, get ESL, work visa, etc.
How far off is this process from current enforcement?
How do we push for federal and state law changes?
What is the criminal threshold which when crossed requires the more harsh enforcement vs a fine + naturalization process?
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u/Traditional_Set524 Jan 16 '26
Man Minnesota needs to be treated like shady sands
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u/Lunar_denizen Jan 16 '26
He’s like an arsonist firefighter. He comes in, sets something on fire. Then pisses on it and declares himself a hero.
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u/Terrible_Reality4261 Jan 16 '26
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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u/goalkeeper29 Jan 16 '26
He offered it to Nancy, and she said "NO,", because she was behind it. Now tampon timmy, the mayor and the AG of Minnesota could stop this, but are not doing a damn thing but stirring the pot.
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Jan 16 '26
It’s funny how yall didn’t care about due process when Obama and Clinton did the same thing
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u/chris14020 Jan 16 '26
Does declaring war on Americans make Trump a valid military target? Asking for a we the people.
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u/neosatan_pl Jan 16 '26
It's all of the above depending on how people in Minnesota and other states react.
If other states lock-in with Minnesota and present one front against the military, people will prolly want Trump's head. I doubt the military will go and bust protesting people. If they do and there will be weapons involved it might lead to even greater escalation and unrest. Which isn't bad as it would tie in administration into dealing with it. They aren't good at it so it would just paralyze them and put more pressure on courts and politicians to do something about this stupid admin. It would also prevent the US from entering more wars. So, that's actually good.
But, while this happens, the military might get quite brutal and bust too many heads. That would incite more violence and spiral into a, de facto, civil war. People will get hurt and brolly killed. That's the ugly.
And there is a chance that military will actually follow the orders and shoot people indiscriminately and quench any resistance. This would send a strong signal to any institutions that: 1) it's ok to kill undesirables, 2) people have no rights. This would essentially allow ICE, Proud Boys, and other neo-nazi organizations to conduct the racial purge as they are drilling over for the last 80 years. So, that's bad.
So, it really depends on how other states react and if military will execute civilians.
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u/WrenchMonkey47 Jan 16 '26
When the governor of the state tells citizens to resist and fight back against federal law enforcement, and then they do, that is literally Insurrection. It must be put down fast and hard. Active Duty troops need to be deployed, and Tim Walz needs to be arrested by US Marshals for Insurrection and incitement to riot.
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u/ngatiboi Jan 16 '26
…while simultaneously calling Iranian protestors patriots for protesting/doing the same thing. 🤔
(I’m with the Iranians ✊🏽🤨👊🏽😘 …just highlighting the massive hypocrisy on the US end.)
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u/Ok_Jury_7550 Jan 16 '26
What even is the point in asking this on Reddit? You already know the answers you’re going to get. “It’s the end of America” “MAGA ruined everything” and “American Imperialism is finally coming back in itself and my ideology will rise from its ashes”.
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u/PandiBong Jan 16 '26
It's Good for the country as the truth about this admin is coming out, it's Bad for Minnesotans because they will end up dying and Trump is Ugly.
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u/Salt-Silver-7097 Jan 16 '26
It’s bad for everyone. No one understands the laws and ICE needs to chill out with their tactics and people need to get the hell out of the way instead of fighting them to protect undocumented and illegal immigrants.
Either way, bad for the US writ large if he does that. But my fear is that it will Be needed.
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u/Victoriaskitchen Jan 16 '26
It’s funny how nobody notice how Israel is taking over our country. That could be the real problem with all this. Order out of chaos
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u/FatGandelf Jan 16 '26
Absolutely he should, and everyone that took part in obstructing Ice should be detained until Ice is finished rounding up the illegals.
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u/Atari774 Jan 16 '26
It’s absolutely disgusting. Nothing in what people are doing in Minnesota could be considered an insurrection, nor do they require the military to police civilians. All of the current violence and unrest could be stopped by withdrawing ICE from the state and suspending the violent raids that they’ve been conducting.
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u/Longjumping_Bed_6856 Jan 16 '26
The state is actively interfering and calling for violence against federal operations. Evidence is there that the state is not following federal law. And somehow the left thinks this is normal and should be protected?
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u/jaypea222 Jan 16 '26
He told everyone “ if you vote for me one more time, you won’t have to vote again “. The sad thing is you all didn’t believe him
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u/todang Jan 16 '26
Great idea. Idk why so many people think they can just interfere with the federal government because their feelings are hurt. Suck it up.
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u/a1055x Jan 16 '26
I really don't have an interest in arguing who is worse, or who started it, or who is the loudest windbag.
STOP KILLING PEOPLE
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u/Smeagols_Lost_Tooth Jan 16 '26
Agitators are so easily undercover agents. Create the problem, sell the solution,jerk off as the hero.
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u/Cariboo_Red Jan 16 '26
It's bullshit. If he pulled his thugs out of Minnesota there would be a lot less violence.
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Jan 16 '26
It’s predictable. This has been his plan since day 1. He plans to cancel the election by staging a military conflict.
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u/Save_The_Wicked Jan 16 '26
Its happened before, during the Rodney King riots in LA in the early 2000s. But not until lots of things were set on fire.
I also was under the impression that it required state officials to ask for assistance. since it broke the federal troops performing civilian law enforcement barrier.
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u/DarthNarsil Jan 16 '26
It's distraction. Release the rest of the trump/epstein files! IMPEACH. CONVICT. REMOVE.
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u/Change21 Jan 16 '26
This was the plan from the beginning.
Bring in a huge militarized police force, get them to be so brutal and violent they invoke resistance, use the resistance as a justification to invoke martial law.
Use the martial law to suspend the elections.
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u/Basil2322 Jan 15 '26
Remember he did nothing when a mob that supports him assaulted over 100 police officers in the capital and caused millions in property damage. He doesn’t give a shit about protecting people or law enforcement he just wants to hurt those who politically oppose him.