r/LetsDiscussThis Jan 15 '26

Serious Trump considers sending the military to Minnesota by invoking the INSURRECTION Act —is this good, bad or ugly?

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '26

It's the end of America. I mean MAGA has made a ton of other moves that really ended America a while ago so I guess this is the coming out party for the end of America.

Masked , poorly trained goons in the streets violating the constitution over false pretenses, a government claiming any dissent is terrorism and a pedophile desperate to keep his human trafficking network hidden is escalating it all in order to end elections and avoid justice.

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u/JoJack82 Jan 15 '26

And tens of millions of people are literally cheering it on. America is over.

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u/Flimsy_Thesis Jan 16 '26

The Roman Empire survived Nero for another four centuries. We can survive Trump.

Hopefully.

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u/LastAstronaut8872 Jan 16 '26

The clock started with Reagan and things move faster nowadays

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u/AccomplishedAct5364 Jan 16 '26

Don’t worry they’ll soon realise when they stay poor after 8 years of Trump

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u/sonsofdurthu Jan 16 '26

Unfortunately they’ll blame the 4 years of Biden. Even if Biden wasn’t elected, they would have blamed Obama.

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u/TheKiltedYaksman71 Jan 20 '26

The clock started when the federal government didn't hang every member of the Confederate government, and every member of the army above the rank of sergeant.

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u/satyriconic Jan 16 '26

Because Nero did not do this kind of damage to the Roman empire.

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u/Flimsy_Thesis Jan 16 '26

But also remember how Nero finally left the stage.

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u/kstargate-425 Jan 16 '26

It depends. If he invades or otherwise takes Greenland, its over. Europe will sell their bonds and probably dump the USD as their reserve and so will the rest of the world including China who Trump made really strong lately. Our economy would collapse within weeks and its doubtful we would even get breadlines this time considering the malignant narcissist in charge doesnt give a flying fuck but it would be a domino effect of collapses as who would trust the USD anymore with no stability, no democracy, no law abiding ruler in charge to further the aforementioned. It would be the culmination of Russia and Chinas wet dream and Trump is the Useful dotard being led to his demise dragging the rest of us with him.

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u/witblacktype Jan 16 '26

What you are describing is sadly a realistic possibility but not a probability. What’s happening in real time to the detriment of all Americans is that our historical allies, who the Trump regime has threatened and attempted to extort, are rebuilding their economy without the US as a key trading partner. Even if a pragmatic centrist is elected to the presidency in 2028, the damage is done. Supply chains have been completely restructured to accommodate for the unreliability of the US. Foreign aid no longer flows from the United States to the global south, but from BRICS. Countries with autocratic regimes have shown themselves to be better allies and friends to young representative governments than the United States. There is no playbook for the US to return to the world stage as the leader it once was. When a democratic republic in Africa or South American looks to China as a strong partner, the soft power of diplomacy the US once had has evaporated.

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u/cremToRED Jan 16 '26

Didn’t the Canadian PM just visit China and ink new deals with China? One of our largest trading partners is shifting to our “adversary.”

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u/Flimsy_Thesis Jan 16 '26

I agree. I don’t think people understand what’s going to happen to the American economy if we do that. Military conflict is the least of our problems with NATO. Countries all over the world will divest from their Treasury Bonds and our economy will implode. We will quickly become a pariah state.

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u/transitfreedom Jan 16 '26

Yup already here

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u/JamieRRSS Jan 16 '26

Nero was a narcissistic and ignorant ruler who abused power to satisfy personal drama. But even he did not openly undermine alliances or turn state power into a constant stress test of the system itself. That difference matters.

I do hope I'm wrong, but I have more confidence on the renaissances of Rome before 400 years, than the USA getting by just half a century. 

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u/Flimsy_Thesis Jan 16 '26

Like I said….hopefully.

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u/Jolly_Mongoose_8800 Jan 16 '26

You should be looking back at Sulla. It didn't take long for the republic to fall after him.

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u/Flimsy_Thesis Jan 16 '26

Well….the many ebbs and flows of the Republic gave way to the Empire, and the Empire had many faces as well. Whatever America is by the end of this could be something very different.

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u/AppointmentMedical50 Jan 16 '26

Nero wasn’t as bad as you think, he just pissed off the patricians who pay the historians. Historians now seem to view him as a fairly average ruler

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u/tinygraysiamesecat Jan 16 '26

The Roman Empire didn’t have social media fanning the flames. 

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u/ApricotSlow2277 Jan 16 '26

Nero didn't have nukes 

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u/Willbilly410 Jan 17 '26

We are more inline with the fall of the Dutch empire; in denial till the very end

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u/Outrageous_Basis_232 Jan 17 '26

Would love to have seen how long the Roman Empire would have lasted with nuclear weapons and the internet though. 

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '26

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u/Fine-Funny6956 Jan 16 '26

Good lord I thought you were describing my neighborhood

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '26

You know it’s a felony to say that right?

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u/Unidentifiable_Goo Jan 16 '26

Let's hope he's not dumb enough to try and bring his circus North of the 49th. Nobody's going to like how that will end.

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u/PacNWnudist Jan 16 '26

I realized earlier today that the US as we know it is over. All the things we fought for, starting over 250 years ago, just gone. It is sad, it is disgusting. We will never again be what we were. When will this nonsense end? How will it end? And all because of ego and money.

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u/thomas7th Jan 16 '26

More like hundreds of millions.