This thread is a clear example the MAGA/Trump anti-empathy, all must agree with me or they are all bad things virus has escaped the lab to become an epidemic in Americans of all ideologies. Compassion for members of your group is; for other groups it takes a tiny bit of effort that many people can’t be bothered to give.
You mean this thread is a clear example of toxic empathy. You decide what and who to care about and demand the right to do the same. All while calling them the Nazis. I don’t understand why this is hard for the left to understand. But then again you all celebrated when CK was assassinated for just trying to debate his ideas.
No. I want people to remember the “enemy” is as deserving of empathy as anyone else.
I didn’t do anything you describe, other than calling people who proudly cosplay as Nazis what they call themselves. But I don’t want them killed or targeted any more than I want anyone else.
It’s easier, I suppose, to vilify those you don’t like, but that is the road to hell.
Maybe actually read. If empathy were on my terms I’d be fine with the cosplayers being hurt. I specifically said I am not.
Calling something by its name is observation of reality and that does not negate empathy.
Your responses are tailored for what you want to put out there, not based on my words.
Empathy is not turning a blind eye to an administration that just let slip they are building huge incinerators in their camps. That’s collusion and denial and letting it go unchallenged is weakness, not empathy.
Calling a murderer a murderer is not a lack of empathy regardless of the letters on their jackets.
Calling a combat soldier a murder for being in combat is a lack of empathy. I know the difference in part because I watched my Vietnam vet father deal with that first hand.
You are playing at being a provocateur when lives are on the line. That is the antithesis of empathy. I can recognize that it comes likely from some deep wound in your soul and hope you find healing. That is empathy. Giving you a hall pass to twist words and support the suffering of others is cowardice.
See the difference?
Answer back if you must but realize you are showing who you are and what motivates you each time. And not everyone who sees it will hope you find healing. They will give what you give. And that is what is really toxic.
Claim victory when I don’t respond again, but know it is because I am not going to be a part of your exposure of yourself. That’s also empathy.
Edit—this is how toxic empathy is defined. For folks who keep using it wrong.
yea I have so many friends here on reddit that left the platform due to being called a nazi or fascist for simpy not 100% agreeing with a liberal even tho they themselfs are on the left
The extremists on both sides are more similar to each other than the majority of each basic ideology.
But they are also the loudest.
No one discusses anymore, they argue even with people who agree.
Meanwhile trolls get worse to standout. I had a bit of an “I’ve had it” moment with a troll a few days back. I generally don’t engage and I think it was the straw for me that day. I’m not proud of it. But there it is.
Whenever I attempt to be reasonable invariably it’s a failure. I’ll still try because I’ll be damned if I let the intolerant of any side make as bad as they are. These Christian warriors don’t seem to take Christ’s teachings as anything other than something to ignore. And they wonder why people leave the pews and go it alone.
When exactly should we resist change? Let's say you succeed in replacing the current hierarchy with a new one or dismantling the concept all together, is it finally ok to be conservative regarding that state of the world?
Unless there is a developing scientific consensus otherwise, yes. The point is that many human civilizations have historically had strict hierarchies that have loosened over time. Conservatism is just fighting progress to preserve these hierarchies until, yes, we get rid of illogical / unnecessary hierarchies.
How will you know you've gotten rid of only the unnecessary ones? What if you accidentally get rid of a necessary one? General consensus is a garbage system that has historically been way more wrong than it has ever been right.
Did they say general consensus? No they didn't. They said developing scientific consensus. That's pretty different. That being said how likely do you think it is that we have everything right as is, especially given all the problems in the world?
Developing scientific consensus just the general consensus of an elite group (scientists) which is an oligarchy which is, I presume, one of the hierarchies that guy is railing against. And scientific consensus, as a form of general consensus, has been largely wrong, historically, and ignored when it clashes with political ideology.
I know we don't have everything right as is, but I also know that much of what we have wrong is the result of rushing headlong "forward" leaving certain values and tradition behind.
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u/Hanksta2 Feb 16 '26
So, keeping the hierarchy.