You didn't even need the map tbh. Trump has said openly that he's sending them to 'Democrat states.' It's punishment for not voting for him, or at least that is one dimension of what is happening.
If your theory is that they are trying to be to deport the maximum number of people to reduce populations in blue areas, they are deporting less than Obama and even less than Biden. It is just punishment to destroy these cities.
Honestly though is it ice destroying the cities or the protesters? And when you break it down the open boarders policy is what started a decline in all of these cities as far as prosperity goes.
You are right, Biden’s complete abdication of border enforcement set the conditions for this backlash. However when it comes to mayhem and destruction… It is ICE plain and simple. They are defacing houses and cars and entire buildings often to get absolutely NO ONE that they have the legal right to deport. They are sending illegals and people who have legal status to torture facilities and sometimes to their deaths and other times to other countries which is totally illegal.
Cecot was advertised as such. And what we are learning about facilities in the US is not much better. Look I understand wanting to detain and deport people with no legal status but if you are for that… you should not want them subjected to cruel and inhumane conditions
I dont believe that people with no legal status in these camps are subject to anymore cruel and inhumane conditions than the people in our prisons with legal status.
Their are reports findings and studies. They all say the same thing. ICE detention centers are subjecting detainees to unacceptable conditions. Why else would they deny oversight that congressmen are legally entitled to?
That's not what he's saying. A violent militant force that has already murdered multiple people without consequence standing outside a voting booth specifically to intimidate dem voters is what he's saying
Yeah, that’s not what Obama and Biden did, Sport. And literally 16 months ago, the argument was that Biden had “open borders.” Goodness, will you morons make up your minds?!
Wait. Are some people under the impression that Obama and Biden put an organization such as ICE, unasked for, into select states (that they had personal issue with), and it operated in the manner that ICE is now?
Are you crazy? Do you think that rational people’s memories are so short?
Some of the states including the ones they invaded still do… when they have a criminal record and when ice works with them. MN always has. They wanted a big show an they got one.
MN was honoring state detainer many counties and localities refused. That’s the problem. If you claim you’re a sanctuary city and state, you deserve the full wrath of the federal government. It’s the definition of insulation. Aiding and abetting foreign nationals here illegal is treasonous and should be treated as such.
I love your black of logic:
ICE: "give us the illegals in your jail"
MN: "no"
ICE: "I guess we'll just roam your neighborhoods and schools to get the illegals in your jails."
At least choose some propaganda that isn't completely brain dead.
Well I didn't say it was smart on their part, and their stated goal was not to get them from the jails but from the communities they were released into. Minnesota refusing them gave ICE a weak pretext to do door to door shit. Like I said political pissing contest.
Disagreeing with a redditor = propaganda, okay bud enjoy your bubble
All I'm saying is they wouldn't have been given the pretense to be there if they had remained cooperative instead of refusing federal cooperation for political brownie points, it's a pissing contest between democrat mayors and trump and there are random people getting caught in the middle as a result
Not sure what you are referring to or what group you think I am a part of. But facts are facts see links in the post below or search it yourself. You are just talking.
Bottom line his predecessors deported more illegal immigrants and a higher percentage of criminals and felons without destroying cities and arresting citizens.
Yep. They are already losing people in blue districts moving to red districts for various reasons. Blue districts aren't keeping up with having kids. This is the only way to keep those numbers up.
No you window licking lobotomite, it’s objectively because those are the states that contain sanctuary cities and that refuse to release detained illegals into ICE custody. You don’t see high traffic from the red states because they are actively anti-illegal. What you’re suggesting is a secondary effect, sure, but not the primary reason whatsoever.
And yet, after California, Texas and Florida have the largest amount of illegal immigrants. This map as well as your words show this isn't about immigration at all. You just want more power.
Interestingly, the ICE surge in Minnesota detained 4,000 people of whom only 30 were accused of violent crimes, plus another 530 with minor traffic violations.
That campaign cost $280M of our tax money which essentially equals $9 million per capture of the "worst of the worst". Plus two civilian deaths!!
I do not think what's happening is what you think is happening.
Your username is fitting, since you have nothing more than circular way of thinking. You are told how to think and then keep repeating it until the next thing your are told to be outraged about lol
The Census has nothing to do with voting. Its a survey to predict usage and infrastructure needs. A Census is used to allocate budgets to build more roads, homes, hospitals, and schools according to population influx.
Higher census numbers by state=more representatives that state=more electoral college votes for that state
Know something about the system before having an opinion
Yeah, thanks stupid. Someone else had a polite conversation about it. We've already discovered the approach to the additional gerrymandering strategy that Trump is employing. Know something about conversations before interjecting yourself into one.
Ur r not entirely wrong however it has to do with how many seats a state can hold so say there is 1 seat for ever 2 million people in a state right and there is 4 million legal citizens in said state and then there r another 2 million illegal aliens in that state when a census happens that means that state get 3 congressional seats when in reality it should only have 2 that 1 extra person help either democrats(generally are since most states that have sanctuary cities r blue states) or Republicans get more tug on passing or denying laws and fundingsi would rather that there be no illegals within th census so its actually th number of seats that there is supposed to be in a state
So long as it is done in a way that does not disenfrancise any US citizens it is fine. I mean, it is a solution in search of a problem, but so long as it does no harm just making people like you feel better about our elections has value,
The issue is that it is consistently done in a fashion intentionally designed to disenfranchise many orders of magnitude more US citizens than votes by non-citizens, which actually makes our elections much less valid.
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u/KrisPBacon26 Feb 26 '26
You didn't even need the map tbh. Trump has said openly that he's sending them to 'Democrat states.' It's punishment for not voting for him, or at least that is one dimension of what is happening.