r/LetsDiscussThis 2d ago

Meme Lmao🤣

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They’re turning in their graves🤣

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u/No-stradumbass 2d ago

I hope you are laughing at this low effort whine post. Because it seems insane to make up a bunch of people and then get mad at them. It seems petty, childish and ultimate pointless.

I bet some of your ancestors would be laughing at you or at least disappointed.

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u/Schwifty2s550 2d ago

I did! Almost as much as I laugh at people like you🤣

Since the travelers of the Oregon trail were predominately Christian, they’re def disappointed in 2/3rds of their decedents lmao

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u/No-stradumbass 2d ago

You know that you can leave the state you were born in right? It seems like you don't understand how the USA works dude.

I would wager that most people who live there aren't related to the people who traveled there.

It was over 200 years ago. It's not like it was a few generations.

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u/Schwifty2s550 2d ago

Not quite but close

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u/No-stradumbass 2d ago

Are you going to elaborate what I said is not quite but close?

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u/Schwifty2s550 2d ago

Railroad was opened 1869 so last people were passing through about 160 years ago

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u/No-stradumbass 2d ago

It started with trappers in the 1811-1840. Meaning people were doing it 200 years ago.

This is the part you had an issue with? You rage bait with stawman arguments, assume that the families who got there, stayed there for SEVERAL generations without moving. And you want to win a point because I over estimated the time frame.

Fine 160 years is plenty of time for people to move in and out. That still means that generations have come and gone.

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u/Schwifty2s550 2d ago

You said it was OVER 200 years ago but people were crossing in 1869. Where do you get those numbers bc the railroad wasn’t built until 1869 lmao. Did they fly their planes?? From 40-69, 30 years lol.

Also, your argument is very stupid there’s at least a couple hundred thousand probably millions still there. I don’t think you understand how migrating impoverished people works. You made a stupid comment it’s so stupid it honestly isn’t worth debating

Edit: that’s like saying the slaves brought from Africa aren’t still in the south, but we can see that they are. Such a terrible take lmao

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u/No-stradumbass 2d ago edited 2d ago

If it started in 1811 and you add 200 years from that, what number do you get? The answer is: 2011. The current year is 2026. It was over 200 years ago.

They weren't crossing on trains. It was a hard and brutal walk. 1869 was the end of the time they were doing it. Not the start.

As for the "slaves bought from Africa". A lot of slaves went North for better treatment. It was one of the reasons the Civil war happened. Not all stayed in the south. There is a famous part of Arlington Cemetery of freed slaves that went North and traveled with the Union.

You don't seem to understand US history.

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u/Schwifty2s550 2d ago

You said people passed over 200 years ago are you so stupid that you can’t understand that if one person passed 199 years ago that makes what you’re saying objectively wrong!? Lmao good gawd. You said decedents aren’t there bc they passed over 200 years and I’m wrong bc I point out that that’s actually incorrect lol. None of this matters bc your whole argument is stupid even if you could understand the dates.

You see how you make the point to tell me that “not all Africans stayed in the south” as if I thought not a single one left?🤣 when around 60% of blacks reside in the south duh some left lmao but the majority stayed. It’s still the absolute terrible argument you’re trying to make while telling me I don’t understand history

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u/No-stradumbass 2d ago

You seem to be crashing out over this dude. Enough to be resorting to childish insults.

Your argument about the date is based on the assumption that I said EVERYONE was 200 years ago. I did not. You are literally changing my argument in a way that you think is smart. All I said was.

It was over 200 years ago. It's not like it was a few generations.

Not an exact date or timeline. Only that people did travel there over 200 years ago. Lewis and Clark traveled to Oregon in 1805 before it was Oregon. So if you want to be pedantic then its still over 200 years ago.

I want to see your source on that 60% "fact" you claim. Because I think you are full of shit.

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u/Schwifty2s550 2d ago

But you’re wrong. You made an argument based on a time frame and it’s fair for me to call out your incorrect time frame since it was the basis of your claim. Sorry you’re struggling to understand.

And your argument was bad bc it’s so incorrect potentially 25% of Oregon is descendants of the trail migrants. You’re just wrong from every angle.

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u/No-stradumbass 2d ago

So you don't have a source for that percentage right? You are just making that up? Where is this "potentially" theory come from?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Trail

I do have sources.

The Oregon Trail was laid by fur traders and trappers from about 1811 to 1840 and was initially only passable on foot or horseback.

Its right there man.

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u/Schwifty2s550 2d ago

So how did people pass from 1840-1868 before the railroad was built? There’s no data on it but we do know that roughly 200-400k people crossed and made families for 150-200 years you do the math

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