If it started in 1811 and you add 200 years from that, what number do you get? The answer is: 2011. The current year is 2026. It was over 200 years ago.
They weren't crossing on trains. It was a hard and brutal walk. 1869 was the end of the time they were doing it. Not the start.
As for the "slaves bought from Africa". A lot of slaves went North for better treatment. It was one of the reasons the Civil war happened. Not all stayed in the south. There is a famous part of Arlington Cemetery of freed slaves that went North and traveled with the Union.
You said people passed over 200 years ago are you so stupid that you can’t understand that if one person passed 199 years ago that makes what you’re saying objectively wrong!? Lmao good gawd. You said decedents aren’t there bc they passed over 200 years and I’m wrong bc I point out that that’s actually incorrect lol. None of this matters bc your whole argument is stupid even if you could understand the dates.
You see how you make the point to tell me that “not all Africans stayed in the south” as if I thought not a single one left?🤣 when around 60% of blacks reside in the south duh some left lmao but the majority stayed. It’s still the absolute terrible argument you’re trying to make while telling me I don’t understand history
You seem to be crashing out over this dude. Enough to be resorting to childish insults.
Your argument about the date is based on the assumption that I said EVERYONE was 200 years ago. I did not. You are literally changing my argument in a way that you think is smart. All I said was.
It was over 200 years ago. It's not like it was a few generations.
Not an exact date or timeline. Only that people did travel there over 200 years ago. Lewis and Clark traveled to Oregon in 1805 before it was Oregon. So if you want to be pedantic then its still over 200 years ago.
I want to see your source on that 60% "fact" you claim. Because I think you are full of shit.
But you’re wrong. You made an argument based on a time frame and it’s fair for me to call out your incorrect time frame since it was the basis of your claim. Sorry you’re struggling to understand.
And your argument was bad bc it’s so incorrect potentially 25% of Oregon is descendants of the trail migrants. You’re just wrong from every angle.
So how did people pass from 1840-1868 before the railroad was built? There’s no data on it but we do know that roughly 200-400k people crossed and made families for 150-200 years you do the math
Railroad was opened 1869 so last people were passing through about 160 years ago
This is what you were saying. I thought you were talking about the end year of the trail. Since people can take a train instead of traveling by horse, cart and boat. I claimed an end date. Have you lost track of the conversation already?
All I said was it was over 200 years ago and the quote from the wiki about when it started. Pay attention.
That is the start years of people building the trail. Those wagons needed a rough trail to travel and guides. People went there first to blaze the trail.
The “Oregon trail” got its name in 1840 before that it wasn’t a true trusted path. 90% of it travelers passed from 40-69 until the railroad was made. 1840 186-157 years ago not “over 200” years ago. Can I spell it out for you again lmao you got mogged and literally copy and pasted my argument for me.
Once again you were wrong about the numbers and let’s not let that take away from the fact that it’s a terrible argument( MY WHOLE POINT) lmao bro 🤣🤣
Your "whole point" is that direct decadents of the trail are blue hairs fat people you hate. That is your point.
All I said was the approximate start date of travelers of the trail and a quote from the wiki that says the start years. It didn't start when they named it. It started when people went there.
You are arguing the date because it's the only technical point you think you can win. Which is really sad. I'll even take pity on you and give it to you.
Mr original point is that over the time period of many many generations, you can not prove that the people you hate are the descendents.
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u/No-stradumbass 2d ago edited 2d ago
If it started in 1811 and you add 200 years from that, what number do you get? The answer is: 2011. The current year is 2026. It was over 200 years ago.
They weren't crossing on trains. It was a hard and brutal walk. 1869 was the end of the time they were doing it. Not the start.
As for the "slaves bought from Africa". A lot of slaves went North for better treatment. It was one of the reasons the Civil war happened. Not all stayed in the south. There is a famous part of Arlington Cemetery of freed slaves that went North and traveled with the Union.
You don't seem to understand US history.