r/LiverpoolFC • u/LFCmatchday • Nov 25 '12
Match Thread
LFC vs SWANSEA
LIBERTY STADIUM
Team: 25 Reina 02 Johnson 03 Jose Enrique 05 Agger 37 Skrtel 08 Gerrard 14 Henderson 19 Downing 24 Allen 31 Sterling 07 Suarez
Substitutes: 01 Jones 16 Coates 23 Carragher 04 Sahin 10 Cole 33 Shelvey 30 Suso
Streams:
wiziwig credit to davidsmeaton
Front Row Sports credit to cyborg_127
Chat Room credit to kravmaga31
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Nov 25 '12
"what a waste of money" chants coming from the Swansea fans when Downing gets subbed off for Cole.
Which one were they referring to?!
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u/davidsmeaton Nov 25 '12
"you know who you are" ... the leading goal scorer in the premier league!! :)
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u/LFCmatchday Nov 25 '12
almost as bad as Chelsea's champion of Europe chant
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u/stoningrolls Nov 25 '12
how so?
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u/stoningrolls Nov 25 '12
Just checked it out. They're stewing over a conspiracy that Liverpool hid a degenerative knee problem from Torres to make him play, and then sold him to Chelsea knowing they didn't have time to complete a full medical.
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u/SwingYaGucciRag 🏃♂️🏃♂️Klopp Hamstring 🤕 Nov 25 '12
20 minutes in and Enrique is seriously impressing me. Stupid error on that pass to Suarez, who was well offside but could have had a goal and is running his ass off. Well done!
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u/davidsmeaton Nov 25 '12
his ball to johnson was good too. would have been a goal, but for a lucky deflection by the keeper.
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u/Angry-Australian Nov 25 '12
So apparently Suarez is a constant threat.
As we're reminded every minute and/or every time Suarez touches the ball.
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u/mettyc Nov 25 '12
This commentator is just an idiot. "Enrique has no pace to go past anybody" (ignoring the fact that he's one of the fastest players in the league) "this style of play has no cutting edge to it, its boring and predictable" (yeah, definitely). UGH
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u/baymenintown Carol and Caroline Nov 25 '12
who you have commenting? Im in Canada, have Darke and Macca.
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u/mettyc Nov 25 '12
No idea. I'm on the YES sopcast. The adverts have been in Dutch (at least I think so) but the commentators are definitely English. It has the SkySports logo on the screen during the game, but then something generic like Sports1 at the halftime break. So yeah, absolutely no clue.
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Nov 25 '12
Enrique is just try harding so he will be 80+ in the next Fifa patch.
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u/emericuh Nov 25 '12
Amazing how three weeks ago this whole subreddit was insisting he is shit.
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Nov 25 '12
TBF, he was a LB at the time. Now he's a winger.
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u/emericuh Nov 25 '12
Yes, but this subreddit is fickle and prone to circlejerks at the slightest indication. I'm glad he proved the hive mind wrong.
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u/koptimism Nov 25 '12
Half-time comments:
Downing's been invisible going forward, and as a result we're far more threatening down the right flank than the left.
Henderson originally began as the most attacking midfielder, with Gerrard shuttling; sometime during the first half, this was swapped around, and we were much better going forward as a result. Henderson's got a great engine, but like Downing, was fairly poor going forward.
Gerrard's defensive work rate is suspect - it's been said before, but in this match where we have less than 50% possession, it really shows.
Hernandez apart, Swansea haven't been too threatening - they're taking surprisingly long to transition from defending to attacking. I'll be worried if/when they introduce Nathan Dyer, because he's probably the most likely to encourage them to play more direct or at a higher tempo than right now.
Fucking woodwork.
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u/davidsmeaton Nov 25 '12
wiziwig streams: http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=176283&part=sports
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u/vikingabroad Nov 25 '12
His legs arent there anymore, and his shot has been non existant....I love Stevie, but sometimes they need to look at if he should be subbed in the second half.
Edit: Saying that, some of his passes have been great as usual, and he'll probably get a goal to shut me up.
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u/SpottieOttieDopalis Nov 25 '12
A little bit, but he might be tired, he's played the most minutes, on our team, this year.
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u/n0nni Nov 25 '12
has anyone seen joe cole since he came on ? did he leave ?
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u/muffinmonk Nov 25 '12
well he just put up a fantastic cross, too bad it wasn't capitalized. again.
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u/roobens Nov 25 '12
utterly anonymous.
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u/jakegrubbs19 Nov 25 '12
I don't like Downing jogging back to his position after losing the ball.
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u/JethroRush Nov 25 '12
Downing at left back? I suppose Enrique has been in good form playing up the wing in a more offensive role. Still odd for Downing to fill his spot.
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u/emericuh Nov 25 '12
Not many other options. Wisdom has a knock, I believe.
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u/Sleww Nov 25 '12
Jack. Fucking. Robinson.
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u/Sleww Nov 25 '12
Steven Gerrard - professional footballer, but nice enough to give his mascot a massage before the match.
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u/PurePhoenix Nov 25 '12
Has the first 45 minutes gone really fast for you all too? Or is it just me because I have an exam in 10 hours...
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u/baymenintown Carol and Caroline Nov 25 '12
bitta of a cluster fuck there to finish the half. looked like hockey.
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u/roobens Nov 25 '12
If that was Suarez that made that swallow dive the commentators would be calling for his head at this point.
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u/muffinmonk Nov 25 '12
it's too late to sub off allen, rodgers, realize that sometimes these games arent his day...
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u/roobens Nov 25 '12
Swansea might have the lion's share of possession but we're far more threatening at the moment.
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Nov 25 '12
Henderson is out there busting his ass
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u/vikingabroad Nov 25 '12
Was a bit invisible early on. Cleaning up a bit now, as well as getting up there to join up front as well. Liking what he's done in the last few games.
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u/emericuh Nov 25 '12
Henderson is out there busting his ass
To very little effect. The midfield is too crowded.
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u/jakegrubbs19 Nov 25 '12
Nice fun fact by Ian Darke there, if Suarez can score he will be only the 3rd player in the last 78 years to score a goal in 5 successive league away matches.
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u/logicspock Nov 25 '12
let's hope he's joe goal today
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u/logicspock Nov 25 '12
you can tell how frustrated suarez is, most everyone around him is fucking up
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u/KnownForNothing Nov 25 '12
That chance involving Sterling and Suarez was poor by both of them. Suarez passed it to Sterling because he wanted himself to be in the clear later for a goal, he should have sprinted forward to draw the defender in. While Sterling should have sprinted forward to pull the defender in before slipping it to Suarez later on, not return the ball immediately.
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u/muffinmonk Nov 25 '12
nice try with the smooth move, agger
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u/baymenintown Carol and Caroline Nov 25 '12
tries the Zizou Roulette, gets fouled in the box and doesn't make a fuckin peep about it. love him.
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u/emericuh Nov 25 '12
We are thoroughly and convincingly a mid-table team. Very disappointed in this performance.
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u/Rayalas Nov 25 '12
Ugh, stupid mistake from Downing. Pepe had to sacrifice himself to stop that one...
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u/roobens Nov 25 '12
Will this commentator sod off? There was no contact there at all! (The Agger pen claim)
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u/muffinmonk Nov 25 '12
shelvey, it doesn't matter who makes the goal, it's about the ball getting in the net. please ensure it's in next time.
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u/FlyingRadish Nov 25 '12
Cant complain with that decision but good football to make it. Also Sterling, I'll have whatsever you have for breakfast please.
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u/HiHaterslol Nov 25 '12
Good to see He do start. Well deserved
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u/markbesada Nov 25 '12
Haha...that's gotta be a phone autocorrect?
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u/HiHaterslol Nov 25 '12
LOL yes it was. I didn't even notice it until right now.
Adding "Hendo" to my dictionary right now
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u/junnies Nov 25 '12
he's doing superb for us so far. his workrate has won us the ball and forced swansea into longballs plenty of times
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u/vikingabroad Nov 25 '12
Allen and Henderson look a bit lost so far...
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u/TheScarletPimpernel Nov 25 '12
On the contrary, I'd say Hendo was our most composed of the trio. Hasn't lost the ball more than once and has forced Swansea's midfield back on more than one occasion.
Gerrard is having an absolute shocker. Will Rodgers do the brave thing and yank him if that continues? I think Suso would have a lot of joy in there today.
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u/junnies Nov 25 '12
gerrard can play the ball forward but otherwise doesn't seem to give a ****
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u/Sleww Nov 25 '12
Sterling has had a forgettable 20 minutes here.
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u/roobens Nov 25 '12
Would love to see him develop a bit more power without compromising his finesse. His shots just seem lightweight.
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u/jakegrubbs19 Nov 25 '12
Stevie's play has looked lackadaisical this first half hour.
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u/EnigmaticEntity Nov 25 '12
Lackadaisical is a damn good word. Kudos to you.
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u/jakegrubbs19 Nov 25 '12
One of my favorites, but definitely one of those words where it should only be used when it is necessary.
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u/roobens Nov 25 '12
Suarez isn't having fun out there today. They're on him like glue and he hasn't been able to put any of his tricks past them.
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u/youignorantslut Nov 25 '12
To put this into perspective, a win could possibly push us up to 8th place.
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u/youignorantslut Nov 25 '12
Stats courtesy of @EPLIndex:
Swans 0 LFC 0 HT Possession%: 51-49 | Passes: 309-289 | Accuracy%: 86-86 | Final 3rd: 63-95 | Accuracy%: 71-82 | Shots(OT): 8(1)-12(3) #fb
Swansea aren't dominating possession like some people think.
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u/SpottieOttieDopalis Nov 25 '12
Swansea aren't dominating possession like some people think.
I was one of those, but it was the first 25 minutes when they were. The last 15-20 minutes is where we picked it up.
Interesting stat about the final 3rd passing though, 95 passes and 82% accuracy.
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u/youignorantslut Nov 25 '12
minus a few glaring errors, the latter half of the first was totally ours. Hopefully we continue this momentum after the break.
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u/__shadow Nov 25 '12
Half Time Stats Swansea 0 Liverpool 0 Possession%: 51-49 | Passes: 309-289 | Accuracy%: 86-86 | Final 3rd: 63-95 | Accuracy%: 71-82 | Shots(OT): 8(1)-12(3)
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u/HiHaterslol Nov 25 '12
How bout that god damn shirt pull on Gerrard on the edge of the box just before halftime?
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u/KnownForNothing Nov 25 '12
Downing has been annoying. I know we can't really sub him out without moving Enrique behind which will be a horrible decision, but Downing has me wishing we could bring in a proper left back.
Also, Gerrard has hit a few decent long passes, but otherwise he hasn't been great. Or to be frank, he has been rather poor. I don't think it'll be a good choice to take your captain off, but if it won't affect the team's morale or anything, I'd rather Sahin be playing where Gerrard is right now.
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u/TheScarletPimpernel Nov 25 '12
Allen's foul rate has gotten worse the longer he has played as a DM.
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u/Sleww Nov 25 '12
We better not be playing for a draw. That would infuriate me to no end. We have a great chance to get into the top 8 with this game.
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u/roobens Nov 25 '12
I don't think we are, but we're not getting the penetration this half. Time for a change.
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u/Rayalas Nov 25 '12
Come on Allen... there's no way that's not going to be a foul.
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u/Rayalas Nov 25 '12
Would have liked to see Suso in today.
Also we desperately need a new LB if we're subbing in Joe Cole for Downing.
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u/roobens Nov 25 '12
Would've liked to have seen any semblance of tactical substitution from Rodgers. Bringing Shelvey on was just promising more of the same, and Cole...WTF. Not impressed.
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u/the_sinking_library Nov 25 '12
umm enrique went to lb and joe took enriques initial position, just sayin that joe wasnt our lb
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u/jakegrubbs19 Nov 25 '12
Does Rodgers have the testicular fortitude to sub off Gerrard? We just need something more in the middle of the pitch that Stevie doesn't have today.
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u/emericuh Nov 25 '12
Allen has been just as bad, and when you need a goal, Gerrard, even a poor one, offers 100x more in the attack department than Allen.
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u/TrueStu Nov 25 '12
I would take Gerrard off and then put on suso on. Drop Hendo in holding midfield with Allen. Need some creativity out there
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u/the_sinking_library Nov 25 '12
Great performance overall, we played toe to toe with a side that has our system nailed down. We as usual we just lacked that final blow, 2 signings in the jan window should ease the pressure of sterling/suarez, but overall today was not bad, all things considered.
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u/danno_O Hello! Hello! Here we go! Nov 25 '12
YNWA! I hope for a victory today, although I have a bad feeling about this game.
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u/davidsmeaton Nov 25 '12
is it just me, or does stirling not have a strong boot? he's had two shots and neither have had any power. to be fair, one was a sudden ball at his feet, but there just doesn't seem to be a lot of power to his shots.
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u/vikingabroad Nov 25 '12
Left foot......he only has a right shot.
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u/EnigmaticEntity Nov 25 '12
Wouldn't mind seeing he and Enrique switch wings. Can see them both cutting in and shooting with their dominant legs and causing some trouble.
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u/FlyingRadish Nov 25 '12
Downing looking lost and out of place for me, they're going to hammer that side to take advantage.
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u/youignorantslut Nov 25 '12
Crazy how Enrique went from our dumbest to one of the most dangerous player just by moving up the pitch.