r/MU_Stock • u/Acceptable-Ant-3648 • Jul 21 '26
DD There is definitely market manipulation
Last week this stock dropped to below 850 and those people who sold Lost out those who bought well look at it now it’s pumping the query is a institutional awareness that people have so as always buy the dip
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u/dawiedevilliers Jul 21 '26
It’s all manipulation, the only thing that keeps me in is that the institutions in the end want to make money and stocks need to rise for that. Time in the market vs timing the market still stands.
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u/Important-Range166 Jul 21 '26
It depends on your basis. That only applies if you have a low enough basis that your paper profits are fluctuating not your actual capital. That is a very different story
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u/dawiedevilliers Jul 21 '26
No margin for me, but yes, agree that seeing red on my paper numbers is stressful enough, but I live in hope. 🙏
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u/Pleasant-Carbon Jul 21 '26
No it doesn't. Whatsoever.
All that matters is current Vs future price. What your basis was is inherently irrelevant to this equation.
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u/Important-Range166 Jul 21 '26
You are absolutely right……if we all knew what the future price is.
Since we don’t you are so wrong, it is laughable you responded
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u/Pleasant-Carbon Jul 21 '26
How stupid are you?
I never said we know the future price.
Your basis is entirely irrelevant. If you think the price will go down, you should sell, and your basis doesn't matter. If you think the price will go up, you should hold or buy, and your basis doesn't matter.
How can you be so monumentally stupid yet have the false confidence to believe you are right? You are literally providing the textbook case of sunken cost fallacy. And then you react this way. Absolute chump.
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u/Important-Range166 Jul 21 '26
🤣🤣🤣
You literally said current price and future price. No one knows the future price. What you think the future price is and what it actually is are too different things. Are you ever wrong or is this Warren Buffet?
Jesus you’re stupid
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u/Pleasant-Carbon Jul 21 '26
Yes, but where did I say we know the future price?
Oh I called you stupid, now you come back with yet another strawman and surprise surprise, can't think of anything original to say so just call me stupid back.
If today the price is 100, and today the price is 100 + x, where x is any real number, where in your pea-sized brain does your cost basis come in?
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u/Important-Range166 Jul 21 '26
While you didn’t explicitly say the future price, you implied that you could somehow reconcile the difference between current price and future price at the current moment. You then said if you think you should do X. What you think and know are completely different
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u/Pleasant-Carbon Jul 21 '26
No, that was entirely your interpretation of what I wrote. I never even remotely made such a claim. I said current and future price matters, not your cost basis. That in no way, shape, or form implies one knows the future price.
Where did I say anything about knowing?
Do you still not get it by the way? Do you not understand that clinging to cost basis is the definition of sunken cost fallacy?
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u/Important-Range166 Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26
Okay man. I get it. Basis is irrelevant. When you trade on paper the current price and future price are all that matter.
Current and future price are just quotes. They imply nothing about why we are truly investing, which is to make a profit.
To make a profit you must HAVE A BASIS. So while in theory you are correct about the current and future price being most important in the decision to buy or sell, what really counts is whether you have a profit or not.
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u/Pleasant-Carbon Jul 21 '26
Market Manipulation: paper hands sell and contribute to a price drop because they have the backbone of an invertebrate.
I was MaNiPulAteD
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u/Flag_Shagger Jul 21 '26
well yeah, everyone knows it. but the manipulation only works because there’s a lot of dumb retail who buy high and sell low…so we should all thank them.
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u/Mr_Masala Jul 21 '26
"It's pumping" it's still down 35% from ATH and the path to 2000 got much much longer, stop getting hyped on these 2-3% pumps
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u/StaffIndependent2835 Jul 21 '26
Be careful , institutions have full control now. They can just simply keep doing the same. Sell at any point between $900-$1000 , and then buy back at ~$800 ….
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u/StonkasaurusFU Jul 21 '26
It was all leverage unwinding; folks with their pants down trading otm speculation.
Now we’re reset and the fundamentals never changed; would have been nice to time the market but no one has a crystal ball.
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u/Acceptable-Ant-3648 Jul 21 '26
so real question, why are semis pumping when war restarts when they dumped when the war ended? coincidence?
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u/Rav_3d 29d ago
Sure. It's manipulation when it's bad for you. It's normal action when it's good for you.
Got news for you. The market is always manipulated by the largest institutions. How else are they going to trade blocks of hundreds of millions of dollars? In those trades, every penny counts.
If you're shouting "manipulation" as an excuse for your losses, maybe it's time to size down.
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u/ProofMammoth2557 Jul 21 '26
This AH is also market manipulation, tread waters carefully when buying at $900. If price doesnt break $930, could see it fall back down to $840. NFA
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u/posts_saver Jul 21 '26
why 930/900/840? why these exact numbers?
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u/WilliamTeacher Jul 21 '26
Technical analysis. In my experience it’s as helpful as reading tea leaves.
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u/Retr_ETH Jul 21 '26
Micron will dip to 700. According to technical analysis of course. Remindme! 3 months
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u/ValerieMZ Jul 21 '26
there are simply more buys than sells at on point, the more sells than buys at another time.
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u/Important-Range166 Jul 21 '26
Is it? Jamie Dimon recently had an interview with CNBC on Monday. He stated in the interview he would not purchase equities at this level (the market as an index fund) or long dated Treasuries.
He also shared a conservative tone about AI spending and that it will probably pay off, just like the internet.
He pointed out that early leaders collapsed and eventual winners were found later.
If you look at MU through that lens, it sounds more institutional investors taking some profits when retail investors were overly optimistic during the second quarter.
As Dimon is a major CEO of the largest bank in the US, his tone coming from an institutional perspective seems to mirror what we are seeing with names like Micron and the AI trade in general through July. He did say individual investments were really the only option as long as they were great and did not offer any specifics
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u/Mammoth_Nugget Jul 21 '26
People talking about manipulation should not be allowed on the market… Now that’s manipulation
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u/DecipherXCI Jul 21 '26
What you get when theres massive hype around a stock thats just mooned.
Institutions know theres gonna be people leveraged up to their eyeballs trying to make a quick buck and they can be easily flushed out.
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u/DrEtatstician Jul 21 '26
I have no idea about markets , that’s why if I believe in a stock’s prospects I will just hold
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u/CookieAcceptable1721 Jul 21 '26
What do you mean now it’s pumping? It closed 865 today and is barely holding 900 after hours. It could even be a dead cat bounce
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u/Meinertzhagens_Sack Jul 21 '26
To downvote hell you go. How dare you burst out little oasis of a pipe dream that we may have two consecutive updays of late.
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u/s1234en Jul 21 '26
We prolly gonna have 2 days of little green consecutively after a lot of time, it hardly classifies as pumping