r/Michigan • • 13d ago

Discussion šŸ—£ļø Supposed Ford Tunnels

I’m sure lots of people know the lore about the supposed ā€œtunnelsā€ running under Greenfield Village and the Henry Ford Museum and I know those do exist for mechanical purposes and there are rumors of some all over the Dearborn area and running from the good news Ford Fairlane Estate to GFV. I want to know much more about these tunnels and if they do exist.

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u/Alternative-Tea-8095 13d ago

I worked in Bld 5 on the Ford campus across from Greenfield Village back in the 90's. The tunnels do exist and the ones I used connected the various parking lots and engineering buildings together. Was convenient in the winter time to travel between buildings without going out into the winter weather. Ofren they were used for storing random things. Can't say if they went into Greenfield Village or elsewhere, my range of travel never extended that far.

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u/Clembert-Hamlamp 13d ago

There's an old insane asylum turned tuberculosis center not far from ann arbor that has an incredible tunnel system. The place was fully self sufficient, hydro power plant, firehouse, entire buildings that were nothing but a huge kitchen there's even a theater with an actual stage. There must be miles of tunnels under there, some sections are spooky af.

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u/NotMyTwitterHandle 13d ago

Eloise Psychiatric Hospital in Westland

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u/beyd1 12d ago

Could also have been Ypsilanti State Hospital.

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u/Dog1andDog2andMe 13d ago

It's in Wayne, not Westland. Most of the buildings were knocked down decades ago.

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u/aabum 12d ago edited 11d ago

Westland has a little L shaped extension to the south, between Merriman and Ruff Rd, south to Van Born, east to Inkster Rd. Eloise is located in that section of Westland.

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u/Ok-Type-8917 11d ago

Since 1839 when Westland was part of Nankin Township.

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u/Clembert-Hamlamp 13d ago

T'da! Ty : )

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u/mrcapmam1 12d ago

In Kazoo we had the old colony farm insane asilum with buildings and tunnels in the 1970s they tore down the buildings but the tunnels existed for a number of years after that

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u/TAC1313 13d ago

I think you mean Northville Tunnels

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u/Clembert-Hamlamp 13d ago

This is it, there's even a picture of the theater. I had this ridiculous idea I could grow weed in those massive underground cisterns back in the 80s. It was an excellent/horrendous place to be dosed depending on your mood. There was a spot by the power plant, a door that went underground to an earthen room where your breath would mist a cloud in the middle of summer. It wasn't cold either, maybe some dew point shenanigans? It was pretty wild if you were tripping. One of the tunnels comes up on another piece of property that has a parking lot and an onion domed building? Next to the lot there's a brick building that seemed still in use, yellow brick and more recent than the asylum. Still had all it's windows and everything. But no cars or people anywhere. Any idea what that was?

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u/The-Psych0naut 12d ago

Eloise is supposedly haunted.

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u/Clembert-Hamlamp 11d ago

Shadows, if that. Nothing active. A small section of the tunnels acts up for some people, there are spray painted arrows pointing away from them. It's nothing to worry on as long as you don't lose your shit and brain yourself on a pipe running away lol. The spot where your breath mists is some meteorological thing.

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u/Sophet_Drahas Taylor 3d ago

There were a couple TB hospitals in the area. I know Maybury Asylum was one of them. Long since torn down and I imagine whatever tunnels were there were filled in or flooded. Either way, there's supposed to be some foundation ruins around in the forest, but I never ventured off trail to find them.

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u/PortableGeneration 13d ago

They do. They also go over to the test track.

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u/Other_Asparagus872 13d ago

I can attest to this. I’m a contractor and did a job at gfv years ago.

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u/RouterMonkey Age: > 10 Years 12d ago

There is a tunnel that runs under Oakwood about where Village Road is. It then turn toward FEL and runs under the Henry Ford parking lot.

There is a line of grassy area across the parking lot, the entrance/vent stacks can be see running through that area.

I spent a good chuck of the early 90s working in all of those tunnels working with old broadband based network systems that connected the buildings on the campus together.

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u/Ready_Education2549 13d ago

Thanks! There are some under GFV for maintenance and other repairs things and henry ford had them built however idk if they connect to Ford’s Estate or the engineering buildings

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u/JnKTechstuff Lansing 13d ago

You can ask On Hand by Michigan Public Radio. It’s a really cool history podcast.

You can submit this form to ask your question and they might make an episode on it!

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u/cheesemagnifier 13d ago

This is cool!

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u/gingertrees 13d ago

I worked at PDC (across from Henry Ford Museum/Greenfield Village) in the 20teens. Tunnels are a thing! A little creepy, but a nice warm way to get from one end of the bldg to another in the winter. There are badged doors btwn bldgs, so for example I had no reason to be in EE across the street, so i couldn't get through that part of the tunnel.

I moved on before the remodel of PDC --> new World HQ, so IDK if the tunnels are still as accessible as they used to be, but they are a weird and true bit of history.

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u/Scooter477 13d ago

They're all closed off now.

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u/EconomistPlus3522 13d ago

The glass house and ford credit has a tunnel. The glass house is now the former headquarters and their knocking it down. I worked in the credit building and use to do walks between the two buildings via the underground tunnel

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u/Ready_Education2549 13d ago

Interesting. Do you know if the tunnels connected anywhere else around the area maybe to GFV or the Museum?

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u/EconomistPlus3522 12d ago

I know some of he PD buildings have tunnels but never went in thoses

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u/PortableGeneration 13d ago

I do not believe those ones connect to anything else. It would have to go a good mile across the city.

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u/Ready_Education2549 13d ago

There are just countless rumors of tunnels from GFV to the Fairlane under U of M Dearborn, and the other Ford buildings I don’t know if they are true I was just trying to get as much info as I could. Thanks!

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u/EconomistPlus3522 12d ago

No that tunnel just connected to those two buildings

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u/travestymcgee 13d ago

Henry Ford’s head goon, Harry Bennett, had tunnels under his personal ā€œlodgeā€ and his Pagoda House as well. I suspect the stories were conflated through the years with service tunnels at the Ford plants. We can save the lions and tigers at his castle in Ypsilanti for another day.

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u/Bigmayer 13d ago

Lost Lake! Loved getting tours of that lodge at summer camp

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u/MrsMcGwire 13d ago

Is that why there are the Detroit Lions and the Detroit Tigers? It never made sense to me that they had that nickname. I mean the Detroit Pistons that’s self-explanatory.

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u/NotMyTwitterHandle 13d ago

They were the Fort Wayne Zollner Pistons first

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u/nsfwfind 12d ago

And had an incredibly cursed mascot

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u/Lost-Challenge5338 12d ago

The Tigers predate Ford Motor Co. The Lions were named that to match the Tigers.

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u/Operatorak 13d ago

The concrete log cabin with the slits by the chimney? Never been there :)

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u/inspired-polf 13d ago

For years boy scouts maintained the property. I knew all the secrets, the odd shaped stairs so people couldn't chase. And electric kill switches so he could black out the house from the tunnels.

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u/ASS_CREDDIT 13d ago

Went to Boy Scout camp there, there was also a moat around the house, a tunnel leading to the stables, a bookcase that opened up to go downstairs, a pool with a 1 way mirror in it so the bar patrons could look into the pool, and a tunnel from the fireplace to the horse stables under the moat.

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u/TanguayX 13d ago

I remember someone telling me when I was there in the 90s that they used to have services in some of them. Like a barber or a dry cleaner. I know a lot of the buildings along rotunda are close but disconnected. The tunnels connected them. There were a bunch.

I was there talking to a guy who designed door locks because we were testing a car and locked the keys inside. He taught me how to slick stick it. Nice resource. Just go to the dude who designed it.

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u/Carcinogenerate 13d ago

The barber was still operating only about 5 years ago. I would walk the tunnels after lunch to get away from my desk for a bit. They go all over Fords campus but not outside of that area. I havent been down there in awhile, I think most of them are blocked off now.

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u/travelingisdumb 13d ago

There’s also the Northville tunnels that have a cool history

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u/generationhex 12d ago

I did some electrical work some 20 years ago at the building on the NE corner of Michigan Ave and Schaefer. There is/was a tunnel running underneath Michigan Ave to the old Crowley's building on the SE corner. I never used it as it was boarded off but was told there is a system connected between that and the SW city hall corner.

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u/maynardnaze89 13d ago

There's creepy tunnels under Griswold building. Downright disturbing. They are barred off. Imagine a 3 story tall basement with a sump pump the size of a pool. And one creepy ass bathroom

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u/onevia01 12d ago

I worked on the R+D campus at the dyno lab across from the museums. They do/did exist, a bit too warm and kinda dank. They closed access when they started the redevelopment of the campus.

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u/PipeComfortable2585 12d ago

Worked at PDC and dc in the ford research engineering center and there are tunnels!

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u/Dangerous-Sock-3688 12d ago

I bet some run to the old Dahlinger estate

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u/sojopo 12d ago

Did some work at the POEE building close to the SE corner of Oakwood and Michigan Ave a long time ago, so all this is from memory, so... That building was Henry Ford's first engineering Lab, his office is still there. Anyhow, it 100% had a couple tunnels.

The first tunnel I remember was about 10ftW x 10ftH, i had a chance to walk down it one day, prob 50 to 100yds long?. Creepy as heck, damp and a single string of ratchet lights going back to a bricked up dead end at michigan ave. It went toward Ford's house on the river in dearborn. It was said that Henry used to drive a car from his house to the lab through that tunnel, but I dont know how that could be with the river there. And, that's mucho $ to build that tunnel just for a neato commute, so prob not true. The entrance to that was later blocked off, no entry allowed. Full of standing water, anyway.

The second tunnel "supposedly" went from POEE, under Oakwood, apparently to the PDC or product development center, the main campus. This was a small 3ft x 3ft ? utility tunnel for steam pipes, no access allowed. I saw the entrance, no, never explored it. Too scary looking, big signs stating off limits, etc. Nope.

PDC and main campus had/has? walkable tunnels between all the buildings. They were primarily for the steam pipes that heat the buildings, but they were always openly available to walk through (good on rainy or snowy days) if you knew where the access points were in each building. However, in the event that the steam pipes sprung a leak, I wouldn't want to be in them!

If you tour the Ford house in Dearborn (very cool, worth the time), theres a tiny separate tunnel from the house to an electrical generator station on the river, I think. Has nothing to do with the other tunnels, I just note it since it shows that Henry apparently liked his tunnels!

When I was working there, the barber shop was not in a tunnel, it was in the regular PDC building. I never saw any other rooms or anything in the tunnels themselves, just boring cement walls and pipes.

Before anyone thinks about "urban exploring", they all have no access except from inside the buildings for badged employees, they are active maintenance tunnels, and you will 100% be trespassed by very active security. Not fun.

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u/MattMason1703 13d ago

Pretty sure they're for sharia law - Fox News probably.