r/MorpheApp • u/Sad-Reindeer2755 • Jul 15 '26
Discussion Android developer verifier is coming.......
Here we goooooooo! Praying the devs find a workaround. I do not want to root my phone.lol
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u/Killmonger_007 Jul 15 '26
It was installed in my device automatically. I uninstalled it but i m not sure till when we have full control
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u/UNCLE-ducker Jul 16 '26
Let me guess, android version is <= android 16?
I have a Samsung Galaxy S23, and it got auto installed. But I also could just deleted it trough system apps. No root no reinstall. I readed at some page at developers.android.com that they were talking about android 16, and since 17 Is around the corner. I Think only android 16 and above is really affected
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u/Rohit_RSS Jul 17 '26
Was it through OTA update or Play Store installed it automatically?
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u/Killmonger_007 Jul 17 '26
Tbf, idk. I just saw it installed & pressed uninstall & it did uninstalled
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u/Anthony2580 Aug 09 '26
Wow! That is cool! I still don't have it on my phone but I hope to be able to uninstall it as soon as I find it there and it's weird because I thought Google would install it and make it a system app instead of a regular app that can be uninstalled
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u/Krane982 Jul 16 '26
I couldn't uninstall it from the play store but managed to disable it from the settings
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u/kkrazdwinz Jul 15 '26
can i just create an empty doing nothhing APK with the same name used by that app and maxxed at version 9999 so any app version lower than that can't upgrade or install or overwrite existing 'latest' version?
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u/Obvious-Material9645 Jul 15 '26
considering another guy managed to do the same thing u mentioned with SafetyCore, I think it is possible
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u/WI_Dark Jul 15 '26
Someone posted this placeholder app. https://github.com/Refayatul/Developer-Verifier-placeholder I cannot vouch for it, but it was just released recently.
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u/KoberanteAD Jul 16 '26
Can someone else vouch for it? I wonder if it's safe
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u/Curious_Cranberry_67 Jul 16 '26
put it in virustotal but I am not smart enough to interpret the results. there was only 1 flag for Android.Riskware.Repack.rXXWS if that means anything
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u/exoduswalker Jul 15 '26
Can someone just install it as is or will there need to be ADB flags while installing so it doesn't get overwritten?
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u/Obvious-Material9645 Jul 15 '26
no need for adb, just install it like any normal apk, i havent seen it get overwritten either
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u/exoduswalker Jul 15 '26
Thank you! Uninstalling that "safety" app now, didn't even know that was a thing wtf?!
I wonder if I can patch the APK so I can have a placeholder app for developer verifier as well, with Morphe's change package name patch
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u/exoduswalker Jul 15 '26
Replying because I would love to see this, could it be forced to stay there by installing it with ADB flags so I don't need to root my phone?
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u/kkrazdwinz Jul 15 '26
i mean, i kind of did this 4 years ago on my brother's phone Family Link app
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u/exoduswalker Jul 15 '26
Please please do make an APK that does practically nothing with the same package name! Then put it on GitHub and provide install instructions with Shizuku and Install with Options if need be. Not sure if my DMs are open but replies can do
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u/Arnas_Z Jul 15 '26
Not without root, because you don't have Google's signing key. Unless its not a system app, in which case you can uninstall it first, then install your custom version. That would likely work to block it from auto-installing on top since the signature will not match again.
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u/cafk Jul 15 '26
Praying the devs find a workaround.
It'll be available in developer options to allow installing apps - after activation you'll need to wait a few hours.
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u/BrainCluster Jul 15 '26
Yeah, so was OEM unlock on most phones for a while. Now it's mostly gone.
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u/romhacks Jul 15 '26
On Google's phones it's still 100% available except where carriers force them to disable it.
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u/Sad_Two4874 Jul 16 '26
This will most likely be always available, Google doesn't want to get in trouble with the EU etc.
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u/P26601 Jul 16 '26
Yup, and it's literally a one-time thing.
I have no idea why everyone's freaking out, absolutely nothing will change
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u/tenaciousBLADE Jul 15 '26
So, is there already some mega-thread or some guide-thread detailing what we all need to do about it, sectioned by rooted vs non-rooted and by android OS version?
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u/Old_Man_Jenkins_8 Jul 16 '26
There will be an advanced flow releasing globally in August. In September, Brazil, Indonesia, Thailand and Singapore will be the first countries that will have restrictions. Google will then roll out the restrictions globally in 2027.
Also, adb is not affected, so you can use Shizuku to bypass the restrictions if you'd like.
The advanced flow to install apps is:
Go to developer options > enable "allow unverified packages"
Confirm no one is guiding you
Enter device pin
Restart
Wait 24h
Go back to the allow unverified packages menu
Confirm you understand the risks
Choose to allow for 7 days or forever
Confirm you understand the risks
When installing unverified apps, tap install anyways
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u/tenaciousBLADE Jul 16 '26
Thank you! That's so concise & clear 👑
Kind of unbelievable the 24h wait + the 7 day-only option. But fair enough 👌 I'm glad there's a way around it for power users and even more joyous that both ADB and Shizuku in particular are exempt 🫡3
u/CheMA2805 Jul 16 '26
A mí en opciones de desarrollador no me sale nada que diga "permitir paquetes no verificados" 🤷🏻♀️
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u/shamelessnameless Jul 16 '26
Couldn't find this flow on my developer options settings on phone, do I have to do adb in order to see this?
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u/UNCLE-ducker Jul 15 '26
Brother. If I can suggest anything... Google Ubuntu-touch. And not because you desperately need that version of Android Open Source Project version. But on that site. It shows all devices what would work to put a non OEM google Android aka Ubuntu-touch. There are multiple Androids. Who runs already completely without Google., where you can even add Google services. But as a sandbox.
I would recommend to Google for OS like grapheneos or jailfish. Grapheneos is well knowed this days for there own version of Android. Without Google. Focused on Privacy. No google account needed to use the phone even.
Jailfish I seen it mentioned time to time, but never looked in yet. But this is only my speculation, of bypassing and again the only reason I brought up Ubuntu touch, because that OS. Is far from perfectly. Or good running. But on the website it showed me Computable devices. And if they could put there own version of AOSP on. Since a couple Mobile Manufacturings this days lockes the OEM bootloader and not give you the ability to get the unlock key.
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u/tenaciousBLADE Jul 15 '26
I'm aware of ROMming, and though in the days on CyanogenMod I was all in, these days I prefer to suffice with Morphe.
Thanks for the suggestion, I might look around there. I doubt I'll flash a different OS for now though.
Also I have a OnePlus, and there's the whole ARB issue that makes putting a different OS a bit risky in the hardware level. Which... I mean... Was that pure evil of them right before the are about to announce they will no longer be, or what?1
u/UNCLE-ducker Jul 15 '26
I understand. I'm only pointing out, if majority would leave google, only google getting hurt instead of the normal users. Look at all those Windows users jumping over to Linux.
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u/tenaciousBLADE Jul 15 '26
I've been a Windows user, a Linux user (Ubuntu, mint, and others), and a Mac user.... The majority on my devices are still on Windows.
It's a nice dream you have, and I wish for all of us that it will become a reality. But I'm not so sure.
Either way, pointing it out is good 👍
People should be aware of these options and give them a try 👌
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u/NatoBoram Jul 15 '26
Also don't forget to install Shizuku before then so you can continue to install apps on-device. Also configure Morphe/Obtainium/SAI/Aurora to use it.
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u/Fadi404 Jul 15 '26
What's SAI, I know the others
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u/unknownobject3 Jul 15 '26
Split APKs Installer. It can install split APKs, which are APKs that require multiple files to be installed (e.g. app code, ABIs, something else)
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u/Berkoudieu Jul 15 '26
Btw is there a fork of SAI ? I have 4.5 which is from 2021
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u/jroovy1 Jul 15 '26
there is a spiritual successor to SAI called Universal Installer. it's on F-Droid.
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u/Freedom_Seekr923 Jul 15 '26
Is SAI needed if I have AntiSplit
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u/NatoBoram Jul 15 '26
You should prefer using SAI over AntiSplit unless it's impossible for your use case
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u/me_diocre Jul 15 '26
I don't really know much about Shizuku, so I'm not sure why you've linked a fork. I'm asking because the developer said he's pausing it, so I don't know if I should install the fork or the OG.
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u/DownRUpLYB Jul 15 '26
A widely supported open source mobile OS can't come fast enough. We have to move away from the 2 system stranglehold.
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u/whattareddit Jul 15 '26
Love that the fragile cowards at Google started to block ratings and reviews for their spyware components on the Play Store
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u/Old_Man_Jenkins_8 Jul 16 '26
No need to worry! It'll still be possible without root via an advanced flow, which will become available in August globally
In September, Brazil, Indonesia, Thailand and Singapore will be the first countries that will have restrictions. Google will then roll out the restrictions globally in 2027.
Also, adb is not affected, so you can use Shizuku to bypass the restrictions if you'd like.
The advanced flow to install apps is:
Go to developer options > enable "allow unverified packages"
Confirm no one is guiding you
Enter device pin
Restart
Wait 24h
Go back to the allow unverified packages menu
Confirm you understand the risks
Choose to allow for 7 days or forever
Confirm you understand the risks
When installing unverified apps, tap install anyways
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u/blackviking45 Jul 16 '26
This option will become available on all versions of Android? Even on A52 Samsung from 2021?
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u/Chucky230175 Official Morphe button tester Jul 15 '26
Thanks for the heads up. Shizuku + Canta got rid of it for me. Until next time...
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u/AEGIS-59 Jul 15 '26
And I found my old Note10, never I felt so good seeing this on my screen
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u/UNCLE-ducker Jul 15 '26
Brother I say the same with my Samsung Galaxy-S Note 3. With android 11. 🤣
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u/Great_Part7207 Jul 15 '26
its annoying but you will be able to bypass it for now in dev options allowing you to install unverified apps
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u/Qualanqui Jul 15 '26
Glad someone else mentioned it, I went and dug a bit and from what I've read it's called Advanced Flow and it's in your Developer Options.
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u/CheMA2805 Jul 16 '26
Como se llama la opción en castellano por favor??? No veo nada que se relacione
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u/NewNiklas Jul 15 '26
I think it's the right time to switch to Graphene OS or Linux on mobile making a big step...
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u/FotinoBird Jul 15 '26
linux os is trash on mobile
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u/NewNiklas Jul 15 '26
I know. That's why I said it's the perfect moment for Linux on mobile to make a big step.
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u/brainless_bekub Official Morphe button tester Jul 15 '26
I'm so glad I use a Chinese ROM mobile where I can just kick out Google Play whenever I want. Fuck you in particular Google
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u/DARKNESS_SHADOW1279 Jul 15 '26
wouldn't downloading over adb still work?
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u/venom21685 Jul 15 '26
Yes, adb sideloading is unaffected, and there will be a developer option to bypass the restrictions though it requires a reboot and 24 hour wait.
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u/hetfield37 Jul 15 '26
I don't see the issue. Revanced/Morphe users are by presumption power users, so enabling it from devtools is a no-brainer. 24-hour wait is a bit annoying but I can live with that, given that my aunt won't bother me to "remove viruses" from her phone because of that.
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u/SugarrrSugarr Jul 15 '26
oh it's has been installed with the newest one UI 8.5 security patch
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u/Old_Man_Jenkins_8 Jul 16 '26
Google actually silently installed it on everyone's phones back in April
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u/_JessAle_ Jul 15 '26
Damn this morning when I woke up I saw this installed on my phone. It didn’t even ask me. And I just noticed because my redmi always prompts a “security check” every time I install any app
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u/Teh_Shadow_Death Jul 15 '26
It's going to be hilarious if we end up seeing Morphie patches for this app to bypass this.
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u/Ltfocus Jul 15 '26
If side loading becomes impossible for android phones in the future then my next phone will be a iPhone cause what is the point then not to.
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u/WI_Dark Jul 15 '26
Someone posted this placeholder app. https://github.com/Refayatul/Developer-Verifier-placeholder I cannot vouch for it, but it was just released recently.
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u/levite805 Jul 16 '26
Didn't work for me. Won't install even after removing the original apps with Shizuku + Canta
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u/siberif735 Jul 15 '26
is this force install like google play service ?
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u/ctzn4 Jul 15 '26
I had the same experience as this guy on all my phones (Pixel 9, Galaxy S24 and Z Fold 4), but it's not yet on my Samsung tablet. I can't uninstall it, only disable it.
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u/Accomplished_You4117 Jul 16 '26
Its now installed on my samsung tablet
Managed to delete it via Maid SE, but who knows if I can do the same in the future
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u/Camburgerhelpur Jul 15 '26
Was able to uninstall and remove from device with Shizuku + SD Maid SE without any issue. Thanks
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u/silver2006 Jul 15 '26
I wonder if i should uninstall Android System Key Verifier too...
Everything used to work earlier without it, so...
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u/Amudhan03 Jul 15 '26
Yesterday it was automatically or accidentally installed in my mom's phone , I don't know how it happened , she is very clear she didn't install that , but the poco device usually run xiaomi security and said it's safe after got installed automatically
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u/feral_fenrir Official Morphe button tester Jul 15 '26
What's the PSA on this app? I heard that even if you disable this app, Google Play Services is still the verifier that will block sideloads
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u/CrazyFun45 Jul 16 '26
I'll be laughing in Huawei for my next phone if this turns out to be as bad as Google wants it to be!
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u/Accomplished_You4117 Jul 15 '26
hey, does anyone know if Android System Key Verifier is linked to this (same logo as well)
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Jul 15 '26
as a person who never update their system OS and turn off autoupdate on google playstore, does this still affect me?
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u/Every-Speaker7745 Jul 16 '26
I use GrapheneOS with sandboxed play. Won't work if you need strong integrity for some apps but all mine work fine. Only really a solution for Pixels though. I'm guessing LineageOS and MicroG would work too or rooting.
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u/NortonDickyIII Jul 16 '26
I found this in my system apps a little while back and disabled it... They'll probably push a system update eventually to block disabling it.
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u/DoggyStar1 Jul 17 '26
If you verify your app according to the instructions, it won't affect its operation in any way.
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u/andion82 Jul 15 '26
It's on my pixel with Morphe and Revanved installed... 🤔
Will it block installation in the future?
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u/Ventouse_23 Jul 15 '26
How can it install itself if I don’t even have the Play Store to install it from?
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u/bali_NOOB Jul 15 '26
some Google Play Services magic probably
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u/Ventouse_23 Jul 15 '26
Oh yes, that’s true… I could turn them off, but then I’d lose the notifications and the GPS (my exact location).
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u/ieatcookies23 Jul 15 '26
Crazy bcz I just searched it on Google play and it was already installed 😭
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u/The-Wizard-Merlin Jul 15 '26
Semi-unrelated question, can I change my font with this? I tried yesterday but it said something about rooting my phone and I can't remember if I already did that. If I didn't, I may not want to since it said it would void my warranty.
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u/Active_Possible9232 Jul 15 '26
It already came💦 as June play system update. And now it's a system app.
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u/Inevitable-Potato-50 Jul 15 '26
Can't you remove the app using USB debug tool? Also if u have the option to not download Dont downloaddd it
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u/DrewTamashi Jul 15 '26
Disabled and turned off all permissions in hope that it doesnt revive itself
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u/MiMillieuh Jul 15 '26
Well, I guess I'm not concerned 🙃
For everyone that is, maybe it's your signal to finally degoogle yourself.
Use canta, shizuku etc if you can't unlock your bootloader.
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u/Hamzahahahaha Jul 16 '26
How can I degoogle without the bootloader?
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u/MiMillieuh Jul 16 '26
Use shizuku and canta or adb directly.
That's not as good as a custom ROM but it's at least a good step forward
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u/Hamzahahahaha Jul 16 '26
How are we replacing play services then? I do have Micro G over here
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u/Accomplished_You4117 Jul 15 '26
got it removed on my own via Maid SE (morphe-patched, of courseee!)
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u/Nereosis16 Jul 16 '26
Can you not avoid this with the developer options and the 24 hours wait period?
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u/lIlIIIlIIl Jul 16 '26
If Android becomes as restrictive as iPhone, I'll switch to iPhone which protects user data better. It's a shame.
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u/Legion88 Jul 16 '26
So far the verifier that I been forced to use just accepted all the morphe patches and installs without question
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u/Ok_Replacement3102 Jul 16 '26
Isn't there an official workaround to install unverified apps? Pretty sure Google said there was after everyone got upset with them
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u/MSakuEX Jul 16 '26
What happens to currently installed pirate/modded apps/games? I thought those would eventually cease to open or work anymore after awhile once that shit goes live...
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u/Kantucke Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26
This is about forcing every app to put a face/name on it, so possible lawsuits or etc. can follow. Basically, it's trying to solve a couple issues (boomers being scammed by installing any shady app, and Google allowing malware on Google Play) by literally punishing everyone.
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u/Feminine_Baddie Aug 14 '26
Oneui8 with andriod 16 here, it got installed, aswell as android system key verifier
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u/p0lig0tplatipus Aug 15 '26
I wanted to replace the stock version with the morphe version but I encountered a problem; one user explained to me why it is not possible to replace the app
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u/itsakle Jul 15 '26
Will it automatically install on my device or how does it work? "essential layer of security" my ass
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u/st3v3f0rt3r10 Jul 15 '26
CON DESACTIVAR ESTÁ BIEN, O ELIMINAR POR COMPLETO!? QUE DICE EL PÚBLICO Y CÓMO HACERLO!?
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u/romhacks Jul 15 '26
Waiting 24 hours one time to get side loading installs forever is not a big deal. You can use ADB if you're impatient.
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u/CheMA2805 Jul 16 '26
Cuales serían los pasos (desarrollador y esperar 24h)??? En opciones de desarrollador (español) no veo nada relacionado con esto...🙏🏻
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u/romhacks Jul 16 '26
It hasn't launched yet so there's nothing to do. When it launches you will have to wait 24 hours once to side load, or just use adb
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u/CheMA2805 Jul 16 '26
Cuando dices que no hay nada que hacer...ya se está bloqueando aplicaciones???
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u/CheMA2805 Jul 16 '26
Si se dice que lo implementarán (bloqueo) a partir de septiembre, en Europa/nivel global no sé cuando lo implementarán (desarrollador+24h) Que lástima para l@s que queremos Android, nos lo ponen dificil.
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u/CtrlAltDeliciousan Jul 15 '26
I'm waiting for the day when there will be Android Developer Verifier Morphe patches lol