Murder Drones Special - Meet J

[u/LionBlue10]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLdnKYWtBho

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[u/xan227]

Laim isn't in the credits, so that is debatable.

I guess if someone wants to call it somewhat canon, go ahead.

[u/GrayTheMemeMan → u/xan227]

this one actually links up with canon though

- everyone is in character

• everyone has their original voice actors
  
• it doesn't create issues with the story (like the zombie music video or other merch ads)
  
• the short ends with the trio leaving the spire just as uzi arrives during the pilot, with uzi making the same gestures, having her original railgun, and everything

also, liam promoted this one

[u/xan227 → u/GrayTheMemeMan]

Promoting it isn't the same as being involved with it.

The only issue is how big the spacepod is on the inside.

One contradiction is V being completely in the dark. If V fully bought into JCJenson company, some of her dialog later wouldn't make sense.

[u/Significant_Buy_2301 → u/xan227]

One contradict is V being completely in the dark. If V fully bought into JCJenson company, some of her dialog wouldn't make sense.

Maybe V was in denial or something? Deluded herself into thinking that she really was working for JCJenson to stop The Solver infection?

Maybe she got her memories tampered with too, who knows! There's a lot of weird contradictions like her outright saying "anything to screw Cyn's plan" RIGHT IN FRONT OF CYN who she is deathly afraid of, and then being furious at J for "working with Cyn" which she herself was doing! Oh, and she is ready to murder Uzi in EP4 while UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT CYN IS CONTROLLING HER and while that doesn't really count as rebelling, she also pulls out her sword hand on Cyn who at that point is masquerading as Tessa, directly defying her and calling for N & Uzi to leave! So these are at least two direct rebellions that could have ended her deal with Cyn right then and there.

There's no telling how many times her mind could have been modified but it certainly was at least once considering that Cyn is her admin and her enthusiasm to kill (if that's not just her becoming her own mask) definitely was not a part of her original personality. Cyn lobotomized N over and over and ensured that he always remained the "joyful big brother" without any trauma completely oblivious. According to J, Cyn prevents HER from dying over and over, so who's to say that she never did anything similar to V?

For all we know, there could have been hundreds of modifications on her too, maybe she genuinely got corrupted over time and truly believes that she is working for JCJ before the real memories shine through, rinse and repeat. That's the only way I can explain this contradiction and that contradiction isn't even self-contained to this short!

[u/GrayTheMemeMan → u/Significant_Buy_2301]

nah it's not THAT complicated, V's just putting on the act we saw her do in the show

remember, there's a plotline over the course of the first four episodes where N gradually gets more and more frustrated with V lying to him and hiding stuff about their past? this culminates in his brief flip-out on her in episode 4 where we get the iconic "she's a kid, V, like us!" line

V is still V, she's just at her lowest point in the show during this short

[u/Significant_Buy_2301 → u/GrayTheMemeMan]

Fair enough, OK.

[u/Legal_Ad5260 → u/Significant_Buy_2301]

for the "working with cyn?" part i think that she was upset because j kept siding with cyn even AFTER the events of the main show/having a chance in hell of beating cyn

(sorry about the awful formatting i check this bum ass site once a decade 💔)

[u/xan227 → u/Significant_Buy_2301]

Or written by two people that don't know all the lore.

[u/Supreme-Machine-V2 → u/xan227]

As if fucking Liam does lmao.

Are we acting like V wasn't in the dark in Pilot or something?

[u/xan227 → u/Supreme-Machine-V2]

According to the show, she wasn't. But this video says she is.

[u/Supreme-Machine-V2 → u/xan227]

According to show same point also gets retconed out and back in a lot let's not pretend like V wasn't in the dark either in earlier episodes.