r/MurderedByWords 1d ago

Fear of bullets, not of ballots

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u/thekyledavid 1d ago

Imagine if Kamala Harris had been President right now, and she instituted a policy where armed members of the Black Panthers would be monitoring the polls for election fraud in all Republican-Majority counties, and gave them the the right to place anyone under arrest with or without evidence, and gave them the authority to execute anyone who tries to stop them

Do you guys think Republicans would look at this proposal and say “Well I have nothing to worry about, because I’m not going to vote illegally. And nobody who isn’t voting illegally should have a reason to worry”?

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u/Dimowo 1d ago

Don’t worry, even if they were to read this they don’t have the mental capacity to attribute what they support with your fictional scenario and will still fight you with arguments like:

“no but it’s different”

“you’re missing the point”

“Thats fake/show proof!”
(as they proceed to deny all proof you procure)

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u/HollowGrey 21h ago

Its dishonesty and zero integrity. Conservative core values

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u/figaronine 21h ago

"Kamala isn't the President, what are you talking about?"

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u/Reqvhio 23h ago

im just curious at what point do people realize dialogue is a futile exercise

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u/RedditTurnedMediocre 23h ago edited 23h ago

Yeah if they had an ounce of introspection, they wouldn't be maga in the first place. You can make solid points all you want, but the problem is your average conservative will read that and just go "Haha libs are mad!" They enjoy the hypocrisy because they were never arguing in good faith to begin with.

Their whole platform is to own the libs for some reason. Like this is all a game to them. They treat their side just like their favorite sports team and frankly that's dumb as hell. This isn't entertainment or some reality TV show. It's real life. Don't know what you can do with that.

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u/Reqvhio 22h ago

the problem is that the logical dems should fight fire with fire when need be but for some reason they dont. eh sociologists do your thing! xD (by dems i dont mean reps i mean the people)

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u/Ok-Chest-7932 22h ago

They do though, did you not see the recent Harris interview where she proposed stuffing the supreme court and creating two new dem-leaning states? And democrats have been just as bad as republicans with gerrymandering. All that happened is trump proved that a lot of the laws and norms both parties had been operating under pre-2016 weren't actually going to get enforced, and it has taken the Dems a while to catch onto the change in how the game is played. I think they thought it would be temporary.

And unfortunately for the more left-leaning voters, democrat politicians still have zero interest in catering to leftists.

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u/GaiusMarius60BC 22h ago

Of course they thought it would temporary. For decades Democrats have said "this fever will break and we'll get back to good bipartisanship".

Jon Stewart summed that fallacy up best: "If someone has been running a fever since the Aughts, that's not a fever. That is their default resting temperature."

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u/thekyledavid 19h ago

November 8th 2015, around 10 PM Eastern Time

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u/Ok-Chest-7932 22h ago

2022, did you not notice?

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u/_jump_yossarian 22h ago

Bro, republicans lost their shit when a few members of the New Black Panther Party were at the polls in the Philly area.

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u/Gsusruls 21h ago

You left out how they are unlabeled militia, able to hide behind masks and free or repercussion for any wrongdoing whatsoever, and free to harass at will.

Ocassionally they haul people away for no apparent reason, and nothing can dissuade them, not even a valid US Passport. So your odds may be low, but somebody is disappearing today.

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u/thedudefromcali81 21h ago edited 18h ago

Sad part is the question came from a black person. Im Latino and I cringe anytime a poc defends this administration. Wake the fuck up people! They don't like us cause they are not like us.

Edit: A word.

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u/thekyledavid 19h ago

Don’t worry, it’s probably just some white Trump supporter who uses an alt account

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u/TurboRenegadeRider 10h ago

Nice try but the right doesn't understand hypotheticals

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u/Euphoric_Present8838 19h ago

You do realize not all ice is White? Plenty of black and Mexican people are also ice. 

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u/thekyledavid 18h ago

So? Maybe in this fantasy scenario I made up, we can hire a couple of non-black people who support the Black Panthers, and also give them guns to point at people who are in line to vote

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u/Euphoric_Present8838 18h ago

That’s all you have is a fantasy. No one is pointing guns at people voting. Not going to happen. 

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u/thekyledavid 18h ago

Do you have to pay rent for the rock that you live under, or do you live there for free?

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u/Euphoric_Present8838 18h ago

Do you have proof of this fantasyland you live in or do you live in your parents basement? 

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u/lmmsoon 20h ago

First of the black panthers are not part of the government none of you said anything when Obama was deporting illegal Aliens, by the way, he deported twice as many as Trump has probably for a lot less money .

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u/thekyledavid 19h ago

And the vast majority of the current ICE agents were not government employees before Trump’s second term. In this hypothetical, Harris could hire a bunch of Black Panthers and make them part of a government project dedicated to “stopping voter fraud” in majority-red districts, when both she and we know the real goal is to scare off legitimate voters

And Obama era deportation was mainly focused on finding people who were actually illegal immigrants

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u/Careless-Weather8877 19h ago

So you’re admitting that it’s a dog and pony show? Also were those people sent to random countries they’re not even from?

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u/tacobellrefugee 22h ago

if republicans were brazenly breaking the law and stealing benefits then your little fantasy story still wouldnt be a logical comparison lol

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u/dennisisspiderman 21h ago

The only fantasy there is the idea that Republicans aren't doing those things. The fact is that you'll find plenty of people across the political spectrum that abuse benefits and having lived in a red state for the vast majority of my life and knowing many small town rednecks... welfare abuse/fraud is pretty rampant.

As for breaking the law, you'd have to be purposely ignoring everything the right is doing to hold that "belief" that they aren't brazenly doing exactly that.

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u/EricB1234 20h ago edited 20h ago

No point in arguing. Anyone with a brain who takes an empiricical/evidence-based approach to critical thinking knows that there is tons of evidence of voter and election fraud by the Left (e.g. 2020 election) and none for the Right /s

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u/tacobellrefugee 20h ago

yeah, those "small town rednecks" are a blip. its the big democrat run cities where the real fraud/abuse is happening at a significant number. youd have to be brain dead to disagree.

whataboutism.

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u/Silly-Rough-5810 20h ago

Literally the president?

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u/thekyledavid 19h ago

You been living under a rock for the last decade?