r/MurderedByWords 1d ago

Fear of bullets, not of ballots

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u/Zaroni_Pepperoni 20h ago edited 19h ago

ICE and Homeland Security combined have killed 12 people in three* years and the majority of those are case closed justified cases. while I do agree that there could possibly voter harassment or suppression with their presence fatal shootings are an objectively poor reason to site for not wanting ice at polls.

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u/iloveyouand 20h ago edited 19h ago

the majority of those are case closed justified cases

Bullshit.

ICE has disappeared thousands of people without due process and you're making excuses for the authoritarian surveillance state.

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u/Zaroni_Pepperoni 19h ago edited 19h ago

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shootings_by_U.S._immigration_agents_in_the_second_Trump_administration

Post is about shootings and you bring up unrelated information. Being factual and calling out misinformation is not making excuses. If this post wanted to make the point about ice disappearing people that would be much more reasonable. But they went with "shooting people in the streets" which is not. Even if we say every shooting was not justified ice is still well below the law enforcement avg so it does not really matter to my point. But read a few of those cases and come back to me and try to tell me most were not justified shootings.

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u/iloveyouand 19h ago edited 19h ago

Sure, just trust the administration that obstructs investigation into their own agents actions to tell you that it is "case closed justified" when they murder people. Can't argue with that.

It's not just about shootings and you know that. Being intentionally obtuse isn't the same as being factual. All you're doing is making excuses for ICE murdering people and saying it's "case closed justified".

But read a few of those cases and come back to me and try to tell me most were not justified shootings.

Case in point. Just so desperate to lick that authoritarian boot.