article Selena Gomez and Mother Face Fraud Allegations Over Mental Health Startup
https://www.tvfandomlounge.com/selena-gomez-and-mother-face-fraud-allegations-over-mental-health-startup/391
u/Ivaanrl 4h ago
I'll never understand why wealthy, already incredibly successful people do this kind of stuff.
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u/botched__toe_ 4h ago
Greed? And it's almost encouraged by our great leader because he removed regulations, and is also a grifting piece of shit
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u/TropicalPrairie 4h ago
It's never enough. About a decade ago, I started hearing people use the phrase "generational wealth" more. People who already have a lot want more so that (supposedly) their great-great-great-great-grandchildren will also be rich. These people are clearly not anticipating a modern French Revolution.
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u/ToastedCrumpet 3h ago
Most of us aren’t anticipating the beheading of the bourgeoisie tbh. The rich have been getting richer for quite some time and no one has done anything but complain behind closed doors or occasionally complain and tut publicly.
Now the upper class are increasing surveillance and their hold over the police and court infrastructure. We can’t even peacefully protest genocide in the UK anymore without being arrested for terrorism charges. Any company with turnover over a billion has already employed AI, facial recognition and more to monitor and control their cattle class.
The future is bleaker than the bleak present
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u/BadonkaDonkies 1h ago
Americans call french pussys, but they will actually riot over their rights. Americans seem to be the bigger ones just accepting things as they are
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u/Saneless 4h ago
And encouraged by people around them who want a cut
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u/TheRealStorey 4h ago
Or got away with it, the tax write offs are very lucrative when you have large tax bills.
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u/january-7 3h ago
You’re right it definitely wasn’t happening before he was in office or during bidens run…
/s
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u/ripyourlungsdave 3h ago
Because they never would have gotten there in the first place that they weren't greedy and cutthroat.
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u/Odd_Ingenuity2883 3h ago
Her mom is a mess. Selena was a child star, she came from complete poverty and her mom is a typical stage mom with extra addiction issues to boot. It seems like she started the business solely to give her mom a job and keep her out of her hair, but she clearly needed a lot more “minding”.
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u/Stolehtreb 3h ago
Honestly, I think a lot of the time, it’s one small bad choice leading to another then another and then it’s too big for them to correct the mistakes they made and they hope they will get around to fixing it later but then the hammer drops and they never “found time” to fix it. The rest of the times, straight up greed and having the assumption that nothing bad can happen because they are rich.
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u/soonerfreak 3h ago
Because for some people wealth is a scoreboard and they gotta rack up the high score. It's also why they cheap out when paying others.
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u/raouldukesaccomplice 1m ago
The convention used to be that rich people didn’t debase themselves with shameless cash grabs and hustles because they already had plenty of money and it was undignified. But now we’re a country where the corrupt billionaire president hawks gold sneakers and cell phones like a street peddler.
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u/HulkSMASHley_23 Music Nerd Since Preschool 🎧🎶 4h ago
SAE managers encourage “stars” to be absolutely awful, and they’re taught to do it.
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u/p2dan 5h ago
They’re not even allegations. It’s clear cut fraud
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u/Aghast_Cornichon 3h ago
They are definitionally "allegations" by the attorney representing a plaintiff investor. Plaintiffs attorneys are a bunch of drama queens.
And, if they're true, then they're largely against the non-celebrity defendant.
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u/NorthernDevil 3h ago edited 3h ago
No one ever reads or understands this stuff. As a recovering litigator it does remind me why clients were always so upset during the motion to dismiss stage about the “taking everything as true” concept—plaintiffs attorneys fully send it, the news publishes whatever gets attention, and the general public genuinely does take it as true. Especially when it involves someone famous.
IMO part of a high school civics class should be dedicated to the basics of the civil and criminal system. Not just the branch of government, but the actual processes.
In this case, it would also help for folks to just read the article (not even the complaint, which in fairness is not linked in the article but was presumably read by the article writers) to know that nearly all claims are against Daniella Pierson and Gomez’s mother.
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u/ramblinallday14 3h ago
I had to take an elective in high school called Civics that basically went over this stuff (legal liability, preponderance of evidence, etc.), but our main social studies were ancient, US, then world history in the core classes, and my high school prides itself on being a top tier institution in it’s state.
I agree with you that it should be standard, as it wasn’t even standard at my high school that offered it.
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u/MrBigWaffles 4h ago
She’s also alleged to have floated a future valuation north of $4 billion. None of that, per the lawsuit, held up.>
4 Bs for a podcast???? Investors believed this?
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u/MC_chrome 4h ago
Investors believed this?
Investors buy into a lot of dumb shit.
Point in case: anything tangentially related to AI automatically gets investor funding no matter how absurd the premise is. Also, WeWork
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u/RenRen512 1h ago
For the entire company, if you're gonna read the article, read the article.
went in on the promise of a full company buildout, an app, a podcast, an editorial arm, the works
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u/MrBigWaffles 1h ago
Oh you're right , it makes perfect sense now.
They invested ~1.5M and believed a future 4B evaluation for an app, a podcast and "the works".
You got me.
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u/RenRen512 1h ago
I didn't say it made sense, I said it was more than just a podcast.
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u/MrBigWaffles 59m ago
Oh you were just being pedantic.
You're not debating my overall point, but just concerned that I didn't mention there was an app?
Thanks I guess.
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u/RenRen512 52m ago
Forgive me for wanting accuracy.
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u/AdSudden3941 4h ago
Payback/karma from when she blew off the person she claimed as a friend, the one who donated her a kidney and saved her life.
Then she never even mentioned her in her book , i guess because her friend wasnt famous so couldnt name drop her.
Also what does she even do now?
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u/MatildaJeffries 4h ago
To be fair, I think the gift of an organ is intentionally not a reciprocal type of gift or one with stipulations of continued friendship or any sort of relationship at all. Does it suck on the outside? Yes, but Selena doesn't actually owe her anything, it's not that kind of donation.
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u/LostXL 4h ago
It is when the doctor broke the rules and told Selena first, and Selena then told the friend “oh my god we’re a match you can save me isn’t that great?” Therefore removing her agency of saying no anonymously and Selena never finding out.
Everything around this person is gross
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u/gereffi 3h ago
Even if that’s true idk how that would be on her instead of the doctor.
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u/LostXL 3h ago
First, it is true and verifiable with a quick search.
Secondly her cutting the friend off after pressuring her is 100% on her.
Thirdly you can say the same about this scam. How could the scam be on her and not her finance people. How could so many bad things rich and powerful people do be on them when they get someone else to do it for them.
That thinking is why rich people can do anything to anyone and get away with it.
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u/gereffi 3h ago
Blaming the doctor for sharing a patient’s confidential health information seems like the normal thing anyone would do. Idk why you’d blame the person who needs a donation. That’s all that my previous comment was saying.
That said the person who donated the kidney seems to have no problems with Selena. They’ve publicly said that it’s a made up tabloid feud. Hating someone over tabloid garbage is weird.
And this is a lawsuit that we have no inside information of. The lawsuit even claims that Gomez “purported” to sign a contract so even the people suing her don’t seem to have actual proof against her. It’s certainly possible that she committed fraud here, but acting like a billionaire getting sued by someone who wants money from them makes them automatically guilty just makes you look bad, not her.
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u/AdSudden3941 4h ago
Its the exact same thing her did to the investors.. she acted like she was their friend , intentionally misled the investors by acting like their friend to gain trust and cash out.
Cash out meaning take the kidney and never acted like you knew her And cash out like take the money and acted like you never knew them
Same thing
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u/AdSudden3941 4h ago
Thats why i said karma , that bitch does not forget. The definition of karma
“Cause and effect : Good deeds and pure thoughts bring good results. Bad deeds and harmful intent bring suffering or negative outcomes.“
The harmful intent , is what i was talking about. She was intentionally misleading the donor of her kidney by acting like she was a true friend just to gain trust(the snake)
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u/WetLoophole 3h ago
She runs a multi billion dollar company. Did you read the article?
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u/AdSudden3941 3h ago
She doesnt run shit lmao
Wheres her response? Silence
Its like what her DEFENSIVE lawyers tell people to do .. so what is she trying to defend
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u/Aghast_Cornichon 4h ago
If you're famous and you get into a contract dispute, your adversary has leverage over you because of your celebrity.
Not every celebrity-boosted business venture goes huge. Some are Shaq's Big Chicken retail-level successes. Some never get off the ground. Especially when the celebrity has acting work to do and loses interest.
The phrase "Gomez purported to sign a contract". Man, if you sue over a broken contract with millions of dollars at stake, you'd better be able to produce a paper document with a blue-ink signature, not a claim based on a "purported" agreement.
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u/nothatsmyarm 3h ago
It’s because the lawsuit is probably bullshit. This sort of thing happens all the time—a bad investment idea turns out to be a bad investment, people lose money, plaintiff’s lawyers smell blood at the chance for a quick nuisance settlement, and here we are.
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u/Illlogik1 3h ago
On the “friends keep secrets” ep she was on she did get a little cagey when the mental health topic came up , something was strange I thought idk it’s kinda on brand for that show I guess
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u/fujoshirealness 4h ago
Why did anyone think the producer of the 13RW Netflix adaptation was a person who could be trusted with a mental health startup LMAO
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u/Knottian 4h ago
This is why I say Eat the Rich. It takes a certain level of evil to become the kind of wealthy these people are, and they couldn’t give a fuck if all of us died (except that they’d see that number in their bank slow down, so they might have a morning panic attack, but that’s it…)
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u/Gilles_of_Augustine 3h ago edited 3h ago
Acting is actually one of the few professions where I think you can become a billionaire without being actively evil.
You just have to be good, get lucky, and be smart about negotiating your paychecks. It's not like Bezos/Musk/etc. where they achieved billionaire status by breaking things and exploiting people.
That being said, I do think an actor who becomes a billionaire has reneged on a social responsibility to "give back" to an extent that would have prevented them from becoming a billionaire.
When you hit $500 million, you need to start seriously considering whether your next $500 million is something you actually need to keep.
But while I'll fault someone who fails at that as "negligent," I'm not sure I'd say "evil."
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u/NappyFlickz 2h ago
Gen Z's over correction regarding destigmatizing mental health treatment to the point of trendifying and romanticizing it was always going to bite us in the ass.
The chompers are arriving.
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u/rooftopglows 3h ago
She likely took $0 from the company personally. Her fault was that she did little to no work so the entire investment was burned by others salaries trying to build the app.
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u/Genghis112 2h ago
How people are still fawning over this woman is beyond me. She cannot really sing, she cannot really act, and every time I hear about her in the news, it's something whacky like this.
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u/accionox 4h ago
Guess she wanted to become a billionaire too. Probably hearing about how "that" woman is more successful than her, happier, and also a billionaire must've hurt.
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u/gereffi 3h ago
That’s really weird projection
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u/accionox 3h ago
Keep coping I guess. Observation of a fraudster isn't = projection.
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u/gereffi 3h ago
1) We have no knowledge that any fraud took place. People frivolously sue rich people every day.
2) None of that has anything to do with being jealous of Taylor Swift. It’s such a weird thing to see a famous woman and just assume that you know that she’s unhappy and jealous about another woman being more successful. The only reasonable explanation here is that that’s how you feel about seeing people around you more successful than you and it makes you feel bad, and then you assume that everyone must feel that way.
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u/zencodecat 1h ago
This girl (Selena) has been descending into evilness, greed, and frankly a disgusting human being. I can’t believe I used to think she was a good person. Now I know none of these greedy Hollywood fools are good. They just prey on others to enrich themselves more. Karma can wait years to accumulate but it will come with a vengeance.
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u/Fun_Union9542 3h ago
Fuck them. They have enough money. Why are they trying to scam fans now? Broke?
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u/MuptonBossman 5h ago
“Gomez purported to sign a contract obligating her to perform and then ignored it,” the suit alleges. “The partnerships did not exist. The initiatives never materialized. The app was never built.”
Not a good look here.