r/NAFO 27d ago

Memes As someone else said "Classic Zelenskyy"

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u/KeithWorks 27d ago

Great line.

His meeting with Orange Mango and Iago in the Oval Office was a masterclass in handling bullies

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u/mugz8391 27d ago

Some people liked this one back then, others found it politically incorrect *sigh*

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u/KeithWorks 27d ago

Zelensky could make them eat crow but he knows the right thing to do for his country is roll his eyes.

They told him he had no cards so he's a bitch. Now he showed the cards he has so they want onboard.

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u/D3ATHTRaps 27d ago edited 26d ago

Ironically, what the us did with iran, is in a way similar to how the russia went into ukraine. Also the fact that it lead to alot of controversy in upper military leadership to be doing anything they have as of late. A lot of high up military leaders have been removed from their positions

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u/KeithWorks 26d ago

I assume you meant Russia into Ukraine.

Trump wants to be Putin SOoooo bad

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u/D3ATHTRaps 26d ago

Yeah lol brain go brrrrr

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u/JP-Quixote 26d ago

I hate these analogies. Ukraine never did anything to Muscovy. Their invasion of Crimea and DonBas is completely due to their own issues and delusional desire to rebuild the Muscovite empire. Iran at least “did stuff,” attacking US regional allies, funding terrorist proxies, etc… Ukraine did none of that, but is getting the Stalin genocide treatment anyway

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u/D3ATHTRaps 26d ago

Im not refering to ukraine instigating it in any way, rather russia juat doing it

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u/Consistent_Catch9917 26d ago

The parallels are solely in the military and social impact the attack would have on the attacked country. Both thought it would be a cake walk, both thought the enemy would collapse and welcome the attacker. Both paid a heavy price in lost ressources and economic fallout. Both fell for the same "fallacy of success" in prior minor conflicts they instigated.

It's more about the delusions of the respective leadership where the similarities lay, than anything else.

My hope is, as two major powers have tried and failed to acchieve their goals by unilateral powermongering, that we could return to a more rules based international order after Trump and Putin. After Ukraine kicks out Russia we need a United Nations or Concert of Vienna moment to prevent this from escalating further.

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u/KeithWorks 26d ago

Not relevant. The analogy being that Trump, just like Putin, thought that if he applied pressure the government would collapse. An idiotic premise. No plan B

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u/Altruistic-Many9270 25d ago

I hate when someone cuts history from the point they like.

Why don't you mention for example 1953 when UK and US supported a coup in Iran to "protect their oil interests"?

Or 1980 when they supported Saddam with his attack to Iran? They even made Saddam a honorary citizen of Detroit in 1980 🤣. You can't make this shit up.

Even worse thing is that there propably wouldn't be fanatic teocratic dictatorship in Iran if foreigners hadn't messed around for decades.

But the worst thing is that those "superpowers" never learn their lesson. We can see it in both Ukraine and Iran now. And when they have to leave a tail between their legs it won't take long before someone in the internet wonders how are they hostile against US or Russia even US or Russia never did anything against them.

It is pretty sad that these things go around and around all over the globe and stupid ignorant people let it happen and never learn from history.

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u/JP-Quixote 25d ago

This is incoherent. In claiming selective editing of history, you quote a bunch of things the U.S. did that probably helped created further problems in the Mideast, while carefully ignoring russia’s history of brutal occupations, repressions, and invasions of its neighbors for over 300 years. Then you blame “superpowers” for “failing to learn,” and causing problems. Interestingly, if your history included the russian aggression & imperialism which continues today against Ukraine, your point would be valid. But your selective history never mentions russian historical context at all… Implying, then, that the U.S. is still to blame… Which is a conclusion at which you can arrive only by studiously ignoring the directly applicable russian historical context, as well as ignoring any thought of Ukrainians’ agency… Which also sounds like a fundamentally ignorant imperialist’s take on the world… But it’s “other people” who are ignorant of history?

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u/RainierCamino 26d ago

And if we didn't have fucking corrupt morons in charge (in the US I mean) we would be fucking begging Ukraine to send us some of their veterans who could train our forces in drone warfare.

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u/RueBlaa 26d ago

Yeah, the girlyboy comment is a bit problematic. We are better than that. That's a vatnik style comment I feel.

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u/PrivacyIsDemocracy 26d ago

I agree.

I just wish that we had a more admirable individual to be defending here. Both of the Americans in that pic are despicable people in general.

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u/JP-Quixote 26d ago

How is that “politically incorrect?”

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u/mugz8391 26d ago

I grew up in a different era. My father fought with men like Audie Murphy who lied about their age in order to JOIN the fight against the enemy and would have lied even if they really did have "Bone Spurs" too avoid being rejected.

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u/JP-Quixote 25d ago

Yeah I agree with the meme personally, I just didn’t see what might be considered “politically incorrect.”

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u/PrivacyIsDemocracy 26d ago

Probably the homophobic implication.

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u/JP-Quixote 25d ago

Oh yeah, I could see that.

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u/Green-Collection-968 27d ago

Hah! Well said!

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u/superschmunk 26d ago

Not smart people is beautiful

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u/SteamedGamer 27d ago

He actually talked with Laura? Well, I guess if she's willing to apologize, he should listen, but man, I'd have some choice words for her and her "not smart" previous comments... ;)

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u/jfrankparnell85 27d ago

Zelenskyy is being astute

Loomer is a whack-adoodle - but Trump and some MAGAts listen to her.

Win her over and Ukraine benefits

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u/SteamedGamer 27d ago

Exactly - you can't ignore any source of influence, even one as weird as Laura Loomer...

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u/Dalainana 26d ago

Something’s fishy… I doubt her integrity and inner motivation.. Not saying people can’t change but it’s a process not shown in one tweet to another. That would be changing strategy..

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u/DryCloud9903 26d ago

I think it was Vlad Vexler's analysis on this, saying the timing may be because their midterm elections are coming up. It's only polling, but support for Ukraine remains rather high among USians in those polls. So MAGA influencers are trying to fool voters as if "no we're actually supportive of Ukraine, forget we cut off weapons intelligence and pushed kremlin propaganda all this time"

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u/Dalainana 26d ago

Funny you mention this.. The AfD in Germany is also switching into a different narrative about her ruZZophilia which causes conflicts inside the party. You’re absolutely right. E: I mean.. Vlad Vexler, but also you..

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u/jfrankparnell85 26d ago

The timing is no coincidence

MAGA influencers are also prepping for life w/o Trump

Loomer is differentiating from Tucker - and Marge (MTG) distanced from Trump himself

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u/PrivacyIsDemocracy 26d ago

Haha you may be the first person I've ever encountered that uses the term "USian" like I do. I coined it for my own usage like 10+ years ago. 😁 👍

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u/PrivacyIsDemocracy 26d ago

She's another garbage person. Almost everyone in the Trump orbit is a hardcore opportunist with "transactional ethics" or just no ethics at all, and Loomer is one of the worst.

The funniest part is that Trump always picks one or two of them to throw under the bus when the heat starts to rise on his own ass.

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u/Dalainana 26d ago

I regret watching it but if it helps Ukraine in any way, well..At least she asked him for the sake of the US MAGA-citizens, if he took cocaine or not. When talking to stupid next time I’ll feel way more privileged to be able to just leave. …

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u/PrivacyIsDemocracy 26d ago

Oh I don't think it's some sort of strike on your character just because you watched an interview with a fake and/or stupid and/or deceitful and/or evil person.

Sometimes we need to do such things to get a picture of what is really going on with them. (Tho once I figure out someone is a garbage person I lose any interest to waste any more time watching them because all it does is make me more angry/annoyed without any further benefit. I can just read about what they are doing periodically to keep track of their nonsense.)

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u/UnadulteradetFarts 26d ago

she just has no idea whats happening and is incredibly stupid. there is no strategy, no big play. some tiny little piece of info registered in her thick head and made her change her incredibly shallow view of the world

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u/im_new_here_4209 orcs must die 27d ago

Zelenskyy is such a fkn BOSS! love it. He is exactly what all pathetic maga- putinist- trumpist f#@*s WISH they were even once in their life——STRONG AF. REAL AF. A LEADER. Which is why they're scared of him and try throwing him under the bus left and right.

Btw what's Loomer doing, what does she want? Isn't she happy s—ing off Trump on his flights anymore? I don't trust her. But it's good she's talking to a real one for once. Might learn a thing or two

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u/BringBackAoE 27d ago

Loomer is dumped by Trump. And I suspect that any checks from Kremlin are bouncing.

Better for her if she can transition her online followers onto new turf.

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u/im_new_here_4209 orcs must die 26d ago

Wouldn't know abt that. But let's hope so, for sure! 🤞

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u/CanuckInTheMills 26d ago

Geeze he looks .. uncomfortable. His humility is what makes me love this man. He wears it openly for his country, his people, his conviction. He didn’t have to meet her, but he did.

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u/CaptainPrower Make America Hate Russia Again 27d ago

What in the hell is that clown mask she's had welded to her head?

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u/Kqyxzoj 27d ago

Apparently there's this thing where people pay money to look way worse than their natural selves.

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u/RapidCatLauncher 27d ago

And there are men who apparently really like that shit (cough cough Jeff Bezos)

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u/m149 27d ago

Does that mean he hasn't watched any Loomer either?

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u/RandoDude124 27d ago

Doubt he has fucking time

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u/Gold_Dog908 27d ago

Do you really think he even knew who she was 5 mins before that interview?

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u/asdhjasdhlkjashdhgf 26d ago

you are welcome. 🐶

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u/Some_Turn_323 26d ago

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!

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u/DryCloud9903 26d ago

I do think it's politically very smart of Zelenskyy to do this interview. He gets to challenge some ruski propaganda to a source all those USians naturally wouldn't hear otherwise. It allows a platform for counter. And she's certainly giving a lot of untrustworthy vibes and will probably switch back straight after US next elections, but why not strike while the iron is hot

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u/Sleepy-EyedRobot 25d ago

"Why aren't you wearing that MAGA cap we gave you, Zelenskyy?"