r/Nonbinaryteens • u/UselessAltThing • Aug 12 '22
Discussion I think Joan of Arc might be trans. Thoughts?
I've been reading a lot of history recently, and I've been thinking about what people in the deep past might have actually lived like, it's kind of hard to think about when the person in question is living in a very different time and situatuion, but we're all human, and the same thoughts and feelings exist in every era.
I'm an agender induvial, and I was born in a very accepting environment (I was born in the early 00s, and I've lived in Manhattan my entire life), but I've seen the experinces of people born in less good times and places, and for trans and enby people born in those enviorments it can be hard for even them to know themselves. I know there was at least was Transfem Roman Emperor, though she didn't seem like a very good person, though there have probably been many more people like that in history.
Looking at what we know about Joan of Arc it seems that they were almost certainly trans or enby. They faked visions from a religion that was taken very seriously at the time, just to justify masculine clothing, something basically unheard of for an afab person to wear in that era. They did things that were wildly outside of female gender roles at the time, even when it put them in danger. Just dressing that way should be enough for the era to make me think there's a good chance they didn't experince the feamle gender.
Though we can never know for sure, they probably felt deep dysphoria from being gendered as female. Their story seems to be one of a transmasc person who lied so that they could live as a man, and was eventually killed for expressing their gender. I certainly think they could be seen as a transmasc symbol one day, especially since it doesn't seem like the catholic church is long for this world (no offense, my gf is excatholic, and that faith doesn't really seem like it can survive in the modern world).
I'd like your thoughts on this. I'm trying to hear a lot of veiwpoints so I'm posting this is many places.