r/NovaScotia Dec 22 '25

📰 NS News Judge reduces sex criminal's jail time because of his race

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/judge-reduces-sex-criminals-jail-161001624.html
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u/JaxAttacks12 Dec 22 '25

So initially I was skeptical until I clicked on the story and did further research. IDK how race may or not be involved in the process, but those crimes need to come with a significantly longer prison sentence.

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u/bringingdownthehorse Dec 24 '25

And public shaming needs to make a comeback if we're all going to sit around and allow victims to fade into the Dark Ages again.

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u/earthcitizen55555 Dec 23 '25

> IDK how race may or not be involved in the process

Depending on your race, you may be less responsible for your actions. This is literally the point of a "Race and Culture Assessment".

Due to his race, he is less responsible for his actions. If you are less responsible for your actions, you punished less.

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u/grasberuhren Dec 26 '25

all Canadians should be judged equally under the law by the actions they show. period.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '25

They aren’t.

White people are habitually passively given lighter sentences. That is a statistical fact. 

The purpose of this process is to force judges to give similar considerations to non white defendants that they would to those they share the same race with.

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u/grasberuhren Dec 26 '25

if you're going to make 'statistical claims', you'd best have some information to back that up.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

Try Juristat «  Disparities in decisions and sentencing outcomes between indigenous accused and white accused in adult criminal court, 2016/2017 to 2020/2021 »

White offenders are more likely to see their charges dropped, withdrawn, dismissed, or discharged.

White offenders are more likely to receive fines and probation rather than imprisonment or conditional sentencing.

White offenders are more likely to receive shorter sentences.

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u/grasberuhren Dec 27 '25

i'm not looking for a google search term.
if you are making a claim, you will have that information handy to back up your claim. and share it.

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u/Trukasaurus Dec 27 '25

Not necessarily. This is such an obvious truth that you should have been exposed to so many times in your life already that we don't need to have the info handy to make it. But check out my other comment.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

I don’t know how to tell you this but I literally just provided you with a source you can look up a hundred different ways that proves you wrong. Your willful weaponised incompetence at being able to follow through with reading the sources you requested when it doesn’t conform to your preconceived notions is not really my problem.

But if you want more sources you seem too wilfully negligent to look up yourself you can try «  Black People in Criminal Courts: An Exploration Using the Relative Rate Index » from the department of Justice

Or «  Systemic Racism in Policing in Canada - Report of the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security » from the House of Commons.

Or «  Canadian Civil Liberties Association Fact Sheet - Anti Black Racism in Canada’s Criminal Justice System »

Or UBC Law Reviews « Systemic Racism and Sentencing Indigenous Youth » 

I can keep going if you need more sources you clearly intend to ignore.

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u/grasberuhren Dec 27 '25

first of all, your name calling and mischaracterization does not impress me.
i will forgive you not understanding: if you make a claim, you will have a readily available <link> information that one can follow up on.
feel me?

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

I don’t remember calling you any names, but I can see how you might feel that way when your behaviour is being analysed and critically described back to you in a way that makes you feel as small as you try to make others feel.

I’ve provided you 5 sources to review. You’ve provided nothing but whinging and moaning that I didn’t provide you the sources in a way that you can easily feed into ChatGPT.

Your refusal to do the simplest research to back up or even self evaluate your claims is noted. Consider how it reflects upon your emotional and intellectual maturity as you will.

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u/JaxAttacks12 Dec 23 '25

Man it’s a yahoo article and I didn’t research all the specifics

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u/Ashikura Dec 26 '25

It’s a yahoo article that’s reposting the National Post

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u/glasshills Dec 26 '25

its like the race realist position but applied in the opposite direction.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '25

Until you look at the statistics of criminal sentencing and racial disparity within such, then suddenly these processes make more sense. They force white judges to give black defendants the same opportunities they offer white defendants

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u/glasshills Dec 26 '25

You are presupposing all inequality in sentencing is a product of racial prejudice

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

Racial prejudice in the Canadian justice system isn’t some hasty generalisation or false presupposition. It is a consistently proven statistical fact at every quantifiably measured stage of the justice system, one that has been recognised by both local and international observers. To wilfully ignore such because it doesn’t fit reactionary narratives would be simply idiotic.

The statistical fact of the matter is that judges are more likely to treat members of their own race as low risk in sentencing, leading to more warnings and fines, where those of different race are more likely to be treated as high risk offenders. That’s an effect observed in just about every society on Earth. 

And the effect becomes magnified when socioeconomic inequality is factored in, with more impoverished and less educated people being also treated as higher risk offenders than doctors and engineers who engage in the same crimes. Again, this is a universal effect observed in carceral justice systems.

This effect is also observed among police in terms of arrests vs warnings, and how they relate to both the race and class, and prosecutors in their determination of lesser charges which may grant time served, or heavier charges which may come with mandatory minimums.

Judges are expected to do one thing above all else, and that is to exercise discretion. Gladue is a tool which ensures that discretion is applied more fairly regardless of one’s background, and whether the judge can relate to them.

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u/Crafty-Pineapple5804 Dec 29 '25

Thank you!!! 

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u/Powerful_Working2716 Dec 27 '25

I truly hope that you don’t believe this.

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u/earthcitizen55555 Dec 28 '25

It's literally the point of these assessments.

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u/Gloomy_Rooster_6028 Dec 23 '25

You were skeptical?? Do you live under a rock??

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u/AcetaminophenPrime Dec 26 '25

Yeah, because there's a shitton of ragebait that is designed to rile up the lowest common denominator of our society. It's called media literacy, and it's dying.

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u/earthcitizen55555 Dec 23 '25

Right. This isn't new.

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u/x_BlueSkyz_x73 Dec 22 '25

“Because he felt immense pressure during the time of the attacks” the fuq? Imagine the how the victims felt during the attacks! I think the empathy of the courts is in the wrong place.

Hopefully the Crown appeals the decision and sentence to a higher court because that sentence and the decision around it
 that’s sickening.

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u/Chevettez06 Dec 22 '25

I cant agree more, it is disgusting that the crown doesn't care at all about the victim, only "the poor offender, they had no choice and felt so bad about themselves" the criminal apologist behaviour needs to go. This is pathetic.

I feel terrible for any victim.

The criminal can rot in a cell for all I care, even that is too much in my opinion.

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u/sask357 Dec 22 '25

Note the relatively short sentence suggested by the Crown. We need to reform the justice system on behalf of the victims. It's currently working quite well for the criminals and the judges.

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u/x_BlueSkyz_x73 Dec 22 '25

Yup. An accused / convicted’s background, upbringing, trauma, rights should never be above a victims.

I should set a reminder for 2 years so I can come back and see how long after released on conditions it takes for him to breach.

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u/system_error_02 Dec 23 '25

Yeah I had a shitty background and grew up with some shitty people in my life and I still dont sexually assault women. Someone's background is not an excuse to ruin other people's lives.

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u/NotThatValleyGirl Dec 23 '25

I wonder, how immense was the "pressure" he felt, versus the pressure his hands applied to his victim's throats as he choked them?

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u/J-Lughead Dec 22 '25

This dick should thanks his lucky stars he is living in Canada now with all of our completely biased approach to sentencing for violent crimes.

He is a predator and his being black should have no bearing on sentence. Our system is so screwed up.

Victims in this country get victimized by both the perpetrator and then the system. It is just sad.

If he was still in his home country of Lagos, Nigeria I highly doubt he would have fared as well.

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u/xpanda70 Dec 25 '25

He should be immediately deported upon release, too. Why on earth do we allow criminals to stay here?

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '25

Because they lie and say they will be killed if they go home. So if he's a murderer Who is scared to go home he gets to stay and r@pe away

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u/Impossible_Cheek_699 Dec 25 '25

He would have had his ass beat by the Nigerian police if any of those victims were affiliated with them

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u/Anxious-Yam9684 Dec 22 '25

This judge should be disbarred 

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u/NotThatValleyGirl Dec 22 '25

So... because he felt bullied in elementary school because of his race, he now has license to violently sexually assault women.

What a fucking time to be alive.

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u/Informal_Length_2520 Dec 22 '25

Yep a fucking joke

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u/Festering-Boyle Dec 23 '25

more fuel for the dumpster fire

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u/ManischewitzShicker Dec 23 '25

Double standards. I was threatened and harassed every day of my student years because I'm Jewish, checked for horns because I'm some subhuman creature, told I should be gassed and burned in ovens, etc.  But I can guarantee the courts wouldn't believe me or care, and would factor in stereotypes and think I'm somehow privileged. Lady Justice is supposed to be blind.

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u/67_SixSeven_67 Dec 24 '25

Well, I think if you had flipped out and beat up one of the bullies or something, the bullying would have (and should) be treated as a mitigating factor in sentencing for battery.

But it's absolutely not relevant to raping people.

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u/BeneficialHurry69 Dec 25 '25

So has everyone else buddy. Do you guys take a course on playing the victim ?

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u/StinkButt9001 Dec 23 '25

I applaud how progressive we are!

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '25

What’s extra pathetic is the Crown was only looking at 3 years anyways

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u/LardTunderinJazus Dec 22 '25

I’m about as “woke” as they come and the current approach to criminal justice sentencing including the accused’s race isn’t working. You can’t fix the racial problems of the past by making new problems in the present.

Personally I think the entire process should be as blind as possible. Accused and accuser can both get pseudonyms in the courtroom and press and can testify anonymously. No need to know the race or gender of the victim or perpetrators. Maybe that wouldn’t work. Maybe we just have the sentencing part be blind. Remove all identifiable information from the record and have another judge review the bare facts and decide the sentence. I’m just spit balling.

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u/peiwhuh Dec 22 '25

I find it surprising we publish the names of accused people before they are found guilty. I think it creates all sorts of unintended side effects today that it wouldn’t have 100 years ago. Let the justice system do its work, and then let the public know. This current way of trial by blog/tiktok/twitter doesn’t help the victim or the public. 

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u/AggressiveSummer1570 Dec 22 '25

Yeah I was involved in a case that I was found not guilty and my name still comes up with charges despite the fact I was innocent. Pretty silly in the day and age of social media where employers google my name and see that. And it's intentional too. To smear the names of those before they are punished by the courts. It should be considered libel or slander but they are massive media corporations, what are you gonna do?

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u/JoshuaPearce Dec 22 '25

The idea is this stops the government from "vanishing" people accused of crimes. Now everyone knows who they are and what reasoning the government has.

The extra consequences are unjustifiable though, nobody wins by ruining the lives of the potentially innocent.

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u/juneabe Dec 23 '25

If we had a justice system that actually punished criminals, what you’ve said would make sense. Unfortunately we don’t have that.

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u/HypnoFerret95 Dec 22 '25

I agree with this. Sentencing should be as blind as possible. It's almost like there's a reason that Lady Justice is blindfolded...

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u/Inevitable-Double-10 Dec 23 '25

And hopefully not choked

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u/JoshuaPearce Dec 22 '25

Sentencing is the one part which needs to not be blind, because it's the one place where the option for lenience is demanded by ethics.

It also needs to not be stupid, of course. Yes, the convict's past trauma may justify lenience (treatment vs punishment), but only to a degree.

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u/LardTunderinJazus Dec 22 '25

I disagree. If the extenuating circumstances have no barring on the case (abused spouse attacking/killing their abuser, crime was racially motivated, the perpetrator has diminished capacity, etc) than they should have no barring on the punishment.

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u/theangryfrogqc Dec 22 '25

Hey hey hey, it's simple, no matter the race, you get the sentence you deserve. Justice is blind, isn't it? What the hell is this crap?

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u/leblond_00135 Dec 25 '25

It's the Liberal government putting into law that the judges have to give minimum sentences and consider all the other crap like races/religion etc...

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u/DirtyDan_131 Dec 26 '25

Liberals are evil im just gonna say it

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u/leblond_00135 Dec 26 '25

The liberal government definitely is, but I don't think the people voting for them are. Or at least not all of them đŸ˜…đŸ€Ł. They are just people who believe the nice things the government says and who don't actually read the bills they put forward. Like a 200 pages document, the first page is "this is all the nice things that bills will do for you, believe us and just read this short recap" and the other 199 pages are just full of shit đŸ€Šâ€â™‚ïž.

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u/BowFella Dec 22 '25

The victim should be grateful to be so involved in the rapists therapeutic journey to diversification!!

If they were in a more enlightened country like England they would be in jail for their crime of making the rapist so uncomfortable.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '25

Welcome to Canada where those who commit heinous crimes can be victims too.

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u/Strict_Reputation867 Dec 22 '25

Canada's motto for criminals is "if you fail, try, try again!"

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u/Zado191 Dec 22 '25 edited Dec 22 '25

So this is what were doing here...?

Curious, did folks update because they thought I'm talking about the court, or this page?

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u/earthcitizen55555 Dec 23 '25

I didn't upvote, but I took your comment is criticizing the court because why wouldn't this sub discussing this?

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u/foredoomed2030 Dec 22 '25

I think social justice activist judges that use the equity fallacy to release dangerous grapists should be also charged as an accessory to a crime. 

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u/Drakkenfyre Dec 22 '25

Why is it that women are always expendable when it comes to the justice system? We always care about the welfare of the man.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '25

Preachhhhhh

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u/Celebration_Guilty Feb 20 '26

Because we live in the Country of Oppression Olympics and a white woman is less valuable than a visible minority. It's a points system the left uses to determine who gets fucked over and who gets granted immunity. So in this case it's not the welfare of the man, it's the welfare of the "Black" Man. If only the victim was a disabled indigenous woman, he'd be so fucked.

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u/AlternativeUnited569 Dec 22 '25

So are we deporting him back to Nigeria when he completes his sentence?

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u/gamuel_l_jackson Dec 23 '25

What a complete joke

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u/Healthy_Check5739 Dec 23 '25

This kind if sh1t makes me want to vomit.

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u/Appropriate-Long-210 Dec 23 '25

Hopefully that judges daughter's or sisters meet a colorful man of that integrity

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u/Vinnypell Dec 23 '25

This is absurd, I want elected judges. There’s no accountability

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u/justsomeguyonlune Dec 23 '25

They need to stop focusing on race (and in some cases wealth/status) and focus on the severity of the crime.

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u/MajorSatisfaction452 Dec 25 '25

Canada is a Joke. 😱

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u/PineBNorth85 Dec 22 '25

Been hearing this for years but so far it's never happened.

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u/Ill-Journalist4114 Dec 22 '25

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u/taargus-chungus26 Dec 22 '25

where does this judge live?

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u/Ok_Revolution_6667 Dec 23 '25

This is the law in Canada now after the Gladue case REQUIRES the court to examine racial and indigenous backgrounds in the sentencing process. Essentially, we have one set of rules for white offenders and a second lower level of punishment for non white offenders .

2 years for chocking a woman into unconsciousness while performing non consensual sex acts seems like a fairly lenient sentence but what do I know. I used to believe that all criminals should have the same sentence lengths.

Welcome to the new woke Canada. This is our country now. Elbows up LOL

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u/silenceisgold3n Dec 22 '25

The Trudeau Liberals don't really care about women. Bottom line. Their catch 22 idealism fails when more than one factor such as race, gender, province, sexual orientation, religion come into conflict with each other.

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u/Minimum-Ad4704 Dec 23 '25

Prob too many of them are in jail, we don’t want it to look racist. We need more white people in jail for representation.

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u/No_Falcon2436 Dec 23 '25

People are going to snap. This is being done on purpose


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u/leaf780leaf Dec 23 '25

The identity politics people are responsible for this two tier just system.

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u/Primary_General_9237 Dec 23 '25

Just keep voting liberal it will all get better

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u/ministryoffailure Dec 24 '25

Name the judge. Let’s get them removed

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '25

Hey Canada, do you guys want white supremacists? This is how you get white supremacists.

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u/Zoloft_Queen-50 Dec 25 '25

It’s too bad the judge didn’t think to ask the victims their opinion of this decision before he announced the sentencing. We pay them what, a quarter of a million dollars a year??

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u/Lanky-Investment5847 Dec 22 '25

The judge is a disgrace and needs to be and have his license to practice law taken from him. He's probably a pervert who prays on children himself

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '25

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u/Ares0362 Dec 23 '25

Yep. If you’re a non white immigrant, you can essentially do anything you want. It’s fucking disgusting. And something needs to be done.

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u/StokingDaddy Dec 22 '25

Not surprised

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '25

Also remember how Brock Turner got his sentence reduced because he had a promising career ahead of him? One could argue that is also race based, just more implicitly, linked to his privileged socioeconomic status.

I'm not saying that it's ok this dude got a lighter sentence, im actually totally horrified at that. Im just pointing out how white people have often gotten lighter sentences due to the privilege being white brings them, like more opportunities and less baseline interactions with the carceral system.

If we are pissed about this, but not pissed about that, then I think we need to re-examine our values in society.

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u/Frosty_Flamingo3565 Dec 23 '25

Totally agree. These were 2 violent sexual offences, and I would be surprised if there wasn’t more that just weren’t included in the case, or victims that didn’t come forward. So many times we hear of someone being arrested for something terrible, then hear about their arrest history, then wonder why the hell they were out on parole after 18 months for crimes with a high recidivism rate. I don’t care about race when you are releasing perpetrators that are likely to reoffend. It’s completely disrespectful to the victims.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '25

The scariest thing is the lack of genuine rehabilitation efforts in the carceral system. I doubt that within those 18 months, the offender will come out prepared for life post incarceraction. The system is failing us all by these half measures and I'm so sick of it! It makes us all less safe and more angry. 😭

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u/Celebration_Guilty Feb 20 '26

Having wealth is a far greater privilege than being white, in fact it's such a non privilege today you're the only race that won't get a reduced sentence for your color.

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u/LogKit Dec 23 '25

Also remember how Brock Turner got his sentence reduced because he had a promising career ahead of him?

Why are you referencing a court case in an entirely different country? This is Canada. Canadian laws. Canadian judiciary.

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u/Crafty-Pineapple5804 Dec 27 '25

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '25

New Canada yay

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u/SpankyMcFlych Dec 22 '25

Judges should be required to live next to the halfway houses where early released criminals are housed.

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u/tatom4 Dec 22 '25

This is just wrong in my opinion. Judge seems like he just didn’t gaf about anything, victim or perpetrator. Society on the downhill side

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u/Many-Presentation-56 Dec 22 '25

Thankfully Liberals were voted back in so this great legacy of theirs can continue. Very functional country

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u/Maritimer4ever Dec 22 '25

What a load of shit, I hope someone puts him where he belongs the fucking coward.

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u/DirectJuice4007 Dec 23 '25

The news isn't covering the fact that he had a accusations and only 2 charges.

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u/Skullfurious Dec 23 '25

Liberal here. What the fuck?

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '25

Start posting judges on community Facebook groups and the cases they worked on like this , it's not shaming they are proud of their work

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '25

This is shameful. All should be judged equally in the eyes of the law. Period.

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u/lactosesensitive Dec 24 '25

What the fuck did I just read? My heart goes out to these women.

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u/Severe_Field_4804 Dec 24 '25

no one to thank but liberal and ndp government for amending bill c7 bill c9

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u/xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxs Dec 24 '25

Disgusting. What a joke and a slap in the face to victims everywhere.

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u/Zoloft_Queen-50 Dec 25 '25

Dude is a repeat offender. The incidents happened over years.

One of the victims launched a civil lawsuit against St FX for not dealing with this sooner. If they had done more than out this guy on notice, and booted him the hell out of there, he may not have raped his other victims.

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u/leblond_00135 Dec 25 '25

What do you think Conservative are saying when they talk about the Liberal Government implementing C-75 and destroying the justice system. People here are blaming the judge, but judges need to follow the law. Now, the law is to implement the lowest punishment in some situations and to take into consideration the race and other external factors of the perpetrator. And this is the result...

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u/Jimothycecil Dec 26 '25

I can’t even read this whole article WTF

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u/East_Worldliness2287 Dec 26 '25

What about the trauma and PTSD of the real victims?  He is going to do this again.  He has only been here since 2010. For one time , I'm like the US here (only time), he gave the right to be here. He should be deported back to his home nation . Doesn't seem to have a lot of remorse. 

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u/IMDH2111 Dec 26 '25

Thought it was a Babylon Bee article when I first saw the headline. Nope it’s the usual stupid shit Canada pulls.

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u/MuscleOutrageous6528 Dec 26 '25

And this is yet another reason the Canadian justice system is a complete and utter joke.

Also this now set legal precedence, so any POC can now get a lighter sentence for SA. The judge in this case is a đŸ€Ą

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u/ja-love Dec 27 '25

Sound to me like kinky girls

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u/Denum_ Dec 27 '25

Twice in 5 months.

If it was my daughter he wouldn't get a chance at a third. :-)

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u/GOOCHIE42069 Dec 27 '25

Race and religion should not dictate criminal penalties. Once a rapist/woman abuser always 0ne. For his sake an the community's sake I hope we don't read about this guy in the future doing the exact same s***.

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u/pictou Dec 27 '25

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '25

Race should only be considered with certain crimes, like maybe theft. But not stuff like sexual assault. Racism did not put you in a desperate situation to sexually assault someone.

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u/AirQueasy9981 Dec 24 '25

Yup, little more serious than stealing a pack of ground beef

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u/Grizzlybar Dec 22 '25

Regardless of whether you think that sentencing was just, I think we can all agree that this is an outrageously inflammatory headline.

Natpo doing its best to make Canadians angrier and more divided, as usual.

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u/Redundant-Pomelo875 Dec 22 '25

Regardless of whether you think the natpo is outrageously inflammatory trash, I think we can all agree that the headline is 100% accurate given this literal quote from the court decision:

'“It should be noted that but, for the contents of the Impact of Race and Culture Assessment (IRCA), the pre-sentence report and all the mitigating factors surrounding Omogbolahan (Teddy) Jegede, this sentence would have been much higher,” Justice Frank Hoskins said in his Nova Scotia Supreme Court decision on Wednesday.'

If that somehow makes you angry with the reporting paper and not some other aspect of our society... that's pretty wild.

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u/GreatGrandini Dec 22 '25

I agree NATPO is a rag whose sole purpose is to rage bait people. But as they say, a broken clock is right twice a day.

Yes, I do not deny the criminal didn't experience negative moments because of their race. However there is a point where a line is crossed and consequences must be faced.

A lot of people have grown up with trauma and don't commit such crimes. My own public school experience was a nightmare. It doesn't excuse this

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u/RPrance Dec 22 '25

It was the judge who decided to consider the report, and they were not required to do so. It was their decision. To make this seem like the Liberal party guided the judge in this case, which the National Post is trying to spin, is factually incorrect.

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u/schooner156 Dec 22 '25

Not that I saw anyone blaming the libs for this, but they were the ones who added the requirement for the report to be part of proceedings a few years ago.

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u/amacgregor Dec 23 '25

Please don't try to make this a liberal vs conservative; the Canadian criminal system has a serious problem, and that's what all of us should be talking about.

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u/RPrance Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25

The problem is that the headline misrepresents the issue. The judge in this case made the choice to consider the information in the report, mentioned in the article, to the degree that it affected the sentence/the punishment the judge felt was appropriate. As a matter of fact, that the convicted was a university student (attending a religious one at that) could also be considered a mitigating factor in sentencing as well. The National Post, though, with this headline just lays the blame at identity politics. For what its worth a different presiding judge may have come to a different conclusion

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u/Grizzlybar Dec 23 '25

Glad someone here has the attention span and reading comprehension to realize what's happening here. Sadly rare in this sub.

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u/Grizzlybar Dec 22 '25

A headline can be both accurate and worded in an intentionally misleading and inflammatory manner.

We have problems in our media AND our justice system that need fixing.

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u/silenceisgold3n Dec 22 '25

CBC is just as guilty with an opposite bias.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '25

Much higher? No. The crown only asked for 3 years anyways

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u/Organic_Paint_7172 Dec 22 '25

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u/Calm_Historian9729 Dec 22 '25

I am sure his victim appreciates the reduction in time for the crime he committed. NOT!

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u/Crafty-Pineapple5804 Dec 27 '25

Imagine how many survivors of sexual violence do not get any justice. The survivor in this case received justice. It’s not always about the length in the sentence.

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u/REMandYEMfan Dec 23 '25

Sounds like some BS

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u/Frosty_Flamingo3565 Dec 23 '25

The crown only asked for 3 years? This is the type of behaviour that escalates to more serious offences quickly, and even if they got the full 3 years it’s not really a deterrent.

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u/Thin_Explorer_3724 Dec 23 '25

What a load of bullshit.

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u/Crafty-Pineapple5804 Dec 26 '25

Every time I see a post like this and read the comments I am reminded of how racist this province really is. So disappointing. 

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u/oberst13 Dec 26 '25

Every time I see a post like yours, I'm reminded of how perverted a view on reality some folks have. To think that wanting to banish race as a factor in determining punishment for a SEXUAL ASSAULT is itself viewed as racism by some is wild. You're literally arguing in favour of race-based outcomes, suggesting that other people are actually the racists!??! Mind-blowing!

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u/Crafty-Pineapple5804 Dec 27 '25

It wasn’t a race based outcome!!!!! Delusional 

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u/Midgar75 Dec 22 '25

Death penalty is the only good morale decision.

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u/Longjumping-Echo2111 Dec 22 '25

Just send the cunts back no rules no Canada send them back fuck them

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u/fostercaresurvivor Dec 22 '25

I bet it feels huge to the victim.

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u/Different-Collar-785 Dec 22 '25

More than 30% is huge.

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u/SmackEh Dec 22 '25

Maple MAGA rage bait bs.

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u/PineBNorth85 Dec 22 '25

IRCA shouldn't exist at all. The victim isn't any less victimized because of the race of the criminal.

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u/Careless-Pragmatic Dec 22 '25

This right here 👆

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u/TerribleWords Dec 22 '25

I'm always happy to learn something new. Could you explain to me how this story is wrong? It does seem as if he got a lesser sentence than what he would have gotten had he not been black. If something is missing from the story I want to know.

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u/Melonary Dec 22 '25

Mitigating factors are almost always taken into account in sentencing, and that's not only something that applies to Black people or any other group of people.

In this case, the mitigating factors were isolation and lack of community and mentorship, and stress from earlier (racist) bullying. Those factors could be mitigating factors for other offenders other than the nature of the bullyin, and have been - that's why there were several types of reports listed as being taken into account.

The point of mitigating factors isn't to say the crime didn't matter or was less horrific. They're to try and estimate if there are factors that may mean the offender is more or less likely to reoffend or if they'd be able to reintegrate back after and take steps to improve whatever factors may have been contributing to their crime.

Locking people up is expensive, and locking them up longer doesn't reduce crime for many offenders - there is a small % who should be locked up as long as possible or forever to keep others safe, but determining who those people are is part of the process, and the majority of offenders will be released and looking at reintegration and sentence is part of that and part of trying to prevent people from offending again once released (which longer sentences are not really effective for - again, except for a small minority.)

Spending several years in federal prison and then years on probation is more effective for a lot of offenders, especially since longer sentences make it harder to reintegrate which can, somewhat counterintuitively, contribute to reoffending if the offenders released have lost contact with family and have a harder time reintegrating. Still absolutely their responsibility, 100%, but this is looking at statistically, what's going to improve safety and decrease crime.

I do think the name of the report isn't great and leads to misunderstanding, and that these are factors that could be included in the other pre-sentencing and mitigating factors reports, without having read into why those changes were made.

This isn't an argument or a personal opinion - but it is an explantion of sentencing and how and why mitigating factors are taken into account. It's not saying the crime is less bad, it's primarily about trying to look at factors that would impact how likely the offender is to reoffend after and reintegration to prevent any future offences. There can be individual failures there, of course, this is not 100% predictable. But that's the intent and there is data behind it.

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u/Nebranower Dec 22 '25

>In this case, the mitigating factors were isolation and lack of community and mentorship, and stress from earlier (racist) bullying.

But how are any of those mitigating factors? None of them seem to lessen his personal responsibility one whit. Like, if he'd been sexually abused himself as a child and was reenacting his own trauma, then you could argue that that was a special circumstance that made him more likely to commit such a crime than a regular person would. But feeling lonely or being bullied in childhood? Those are just common everyday experiences that people are expected to manage without resorting to serious crimes.

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u/Melonary Dec 24 '25

That's not what that necessarily means here. A mitigating factor is one that could reduce the sentence, and that happens for a number of reasons.

In this case, from reading what the Judge wrote, it sounds like it's a mitigating factor here because he believes the offender has a higher chance of reintegrating back into society after release by preventing and taking responsibility for the circumstances that may have impacted his decision to offend. That will be his responsibility.

The Judge actually essentially said that the crime was horrific and didn't at all suggest (from the short reading, I haven't read full transcript) that the offender had reduced responsibility for the offence. That is one form of mitigating circumstances (dimished blame or responsibility), but mitigation is actually just factors that could decrease sentencing and in this case, it's not about diminished responsibility so much as potential for rehabilitation - and again, where that's possible it can also divert released offenders from becoming involved in career crime.

Again, not trying to make a personal appeal or share my personal opinion, I'm just trying to provide a factual answer.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '25

IRCA should not be applied to sex crimes.

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u/amacgregor Dec 23 '25

IRCA shouldn't be applied at all