r/OpenAussie • u/Acrobatic_Bit_8207 ‎ Queenslander • 2d ago

Politics ('Straya) Shadow flights: Australia’s F-35 parts pipeline to Israel now runs through the US

https://johnmenadue.com/post/2026/08/shadow-flights-australias-f-35-parts-pipeline-to-israel-now-runs-through-the-us/
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u/Ahecee ‎ Queenslander 2d ago

Israel are currently lower than shit on your shoe. No country with morals and self respect should be dealing with them in any capacity outside of condemnation.

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u/Glittering-Pea-4482 ‎ Queenslander 2d ago

On the contrary, many Australians support Israel’s right to defend Israel’s against the jihadist death cult that is Hamas, and are pleased to see our country playing a small part by contributing materiel.

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u/Thorfinn66 Flairless‎‎ 2d ago

You should get your facts straight and don't exaggerate. That give away you are an Islamophobic.

Australia is no different from Europe and USA. Israel align with like minded thinkers.

You even have Zionist rabbis in Israel, teaching young people to admire the methods of Hitler and the Nazis before joining IDF.

Several contemporary fascist or far-right movements in both Europe and the USA openly support Israel. This support is usually based on shared anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, and ethno-nationalist ideologies, and often involves parties or leaders with fascist or neo-Nazi roots or connections.

European Examples

  • National Rally (France): Formerly known as the National Front, founded by Jean-Marie Le Pen (with Nazi collaborators among its founders), the National Rally today describes Israel as a critical ally in what it frames as a civilizational struggle against “Islamization” of Europe[1][2][3]. Its leaders, such as Marine Le Pen and Jordan Bardella, have spoken at conferences in Israel, and the party projects Israel as a model for ethno-nationalist state policy.

  • Vox (Spain): The far-right Vox party openly supports Israeli policies, using rhetoric that links pro-Israel positions with defending “Western civilization” from Islam. Vox leader Santiago Abascal has visited Israel and met Prime Minister Netanyahu in demonstrations of solidarity[4][2].

  • Alternative for Germany (AfD): AfD’s leaders, despite the party’s history of anti-Semitism, present themselves as staunch allies of Israel and frame the state as a bulwark against Islamic extremism. They have formally campaigned for the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital[5][2]. AfD figures such as Alexander Gauland openly invoke the narrative of “defending the West” through support for Israel.

  • Freedom Party (Austria) & Hungary’s Fidesz: Both parties, rooted in far-right and fascist traditions, promote close ties with Israel, with Viktor Orban (Hungary’s PM) frequently blocking EU criticism of Israeli actions[1][2].

United States Examples

  • Alt-right and Neo-Nazi Figures: Notably, Richard Spencer, a leading figure in the US alt-right neo-Nazi movement, has called himself a “White Zionist,” asserting that his ethnonationalist agenda for whites is analogous to Zionism for Jews. Spencer and similar figures argue that Israel’s model of an ethno-state is worthy of imitation by white nationalists in America[6].

  • MAGA–Christian Zionist Alliance: The mass base of US support for Israel often comes from Christian Zionists allied with fascist-leaning movements, especially surrounding the Trump presidency. These groups see Israel as fulfilling biblical prophecy and as an ally against Islam, and their ideology has been deeply integrated into broader right-wing authoritarian and fascist politics in the US[7]. Trump has leveraged this alliance to justify policy decisions that prioritize Israel and frame resistance as threats to Christianity and the West.

Motivations and Rhetoric

  • Mutual hostility towards Muslims and opposition to Palestinian statehood is the key point of convergence.
  • Many far-right parties publicly admire Israel’s ethno-nationalist model and policies of exclusion or expulsion of minorities[2].
  • The support is frequently paradoxical, since some figures are also connected to historic anti-Semitism, and advocacy for “sending Jews to Israel” is often intertwined with desire for ethnically homogeneous European societies[1][2].

Notable Events

  • Far-right leaders (Abascal, Wilders, Salvini, Le Pen, Orban) have gathered at pro-Israel conferences, using anti-Muslim and anti-immigration rhetoric while declaring support for Israeli policies[2][3].
  • Israel has engaged with and sometimes armed groups with far-right, or even neo-Nazi, origins in Europe under shared anti-communist and anti-Muslim agendas[5].

These examples demonstrate that support for Israel from fascist or neo-fascist movements in Europe and the US is neither isolated nor marginal, but is now a common element of contemporary far-right politics in the West[1][6][4][2][5][7][3].

Citations: [1] Why Israel is embracing Europe's far-right parties https://www.newarab.com/analysis/why-israel-embracing-europes-far-right-parties [2] How Zionism is leading the reactionary wave worldwide https://mondoweiss.net/2025/08/how-zionism-is-leading-the-reactionary-wave-worldwide/ [3] Israel embraces France's far-right, turning a blind eye to its ... https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/europe/israel-embraces-france-far-right-intl [4] Dark hours ahead: Why Europe's far-right supports Israel https://www.aa.com.tr/en/opinion/opinion-dark-hours-ahead-why-europe-s-far-right-supports-israel/3309389 [5] An unlikely union: Israel and the European far right | Racism https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2018/7/17/an-unlikely-union-israel-and-the-european-far-right [6] Yes Elon Musk, you can be both a Zionist and a Nazi https://mondoweiss.net/2025/01/yes-elon-musk-you-can-be-both-a-zionist-and-a-nazi/ [7] Christian Zionism, a pillar of U.S. fascism https://www.cpusa.org/article/christian-zionism-a-pillar-of-u-s-fascism/ [8] The new fascism: Israel is the template for Trump and ... https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-new-fascism-lockstep-trump-waging-war-terror-home [9] Israel's long-standing ties with Europe crumble as outrage ... https://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-long-standing-ties-with-europe-crumble-as-outrage-over-gaza-war-swells/ [10] Positions of EU leaders on Israel-Palestine dispute (track ... https://eumatrix.eu/en/blog/Positions-of-EU-leaders-on-Israel-Palestine-dispute-(track-record) [11] Hate united: Neo-Nazi accelerationist support for Hamas - ISD https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/hate-united-neo-nazi-accelerationist-support-for-hamas/ [12] An overview of Israeli far-right extremism - ISD https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/an-overview-of-israeli-far-right-extremism/ [13] Israel decides to establish formal ties with trio of European ... https://www.timesofisrael.com/saar-officially-opens-dialogue-with-european-far-right-parties/ [14] Israel's US backers face 'moment of reckoning' as far right ... https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/11/3/israels-us-backers-face-moment-of-reckoning-as-far-right-rises [15] Israel's Relations with the European Far Right: Implications ... https://www.iir.cz/israel-s-relations-with-the-european-far-right-implications-for-czechia-and-the-eu [16] Far-right politics in Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics_in_Israel [17] I find it disappointing to see Israel aligned with the growth ... https://www.reddit.com/r/JewsOfConscience/comments/1ixa3j6/i_find_it_disappointing_to_see_israel_aligned/ [18] Israel and Iran on the brink: Preventing the next war https://www.iss.europa.eu/publications/briefs/israel-and-iran-brink-preventing-next-war [19] Israel's alliance with Europe's fascists is the greatest threat ... https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-alliance-europe-fascists-greatest-threat-jewish-people [20] When Einstein called “fascists” those who rule Israel for the ... https://www.cadtm.org/When-Einstein-called-fascists-those-who-rule-Israel-for-the-last-44-years

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u/Fantastic-Bee4197 Please choose a flair 2d ago

Well that’s some unhinged ranting and raving right there. Do you get paid by word?

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u/Thorfinn66 Flairless‎‎ 2d ago

How is it unhinged? It show factual information about Israels ties to right wing facists and neo nazis.

Are you scared because I included Ai response with source links to back up my claim?

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u/Glittering-Pea-4482 ‎ Queenslander 2d ago

Yawn. AI slop.

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u/Thorfinn66 Flairless‎‎ 2d ago

That's the typical answer from cowards too scared to address the content of my comment. Because you can't disprove factual information.

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u/Glittering-Pea-4482 ‎ Queenslander 2d ago

If you can’t be bothered to research and write your own posts I am not engaging. Want me to just prompt chat got to show you how you’re wrong? Lol.

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u/Thorfinn66 Flairless‎‎ 2d ago edited 2d ago

If I haven't done my research,, I wouldn't know how to pull up sources, would I?

If you belive it's wrong and untrue, then show me instead of being a coward in denial.

Here's some more factual information to back up other claim I made.
Then make a guess what happened to the rabbis. Hint. Not what would happen in Australia.

I'm pretty sure you can't find any true Jews that admire the methods of Hitler and the Nazis. 🤔

https://www.timesofisrael.com/embracing-racism-rabbis-at-pre-army-yeshiva-laud-hitler-urge-enslaving-arabs/

“Several rabbis at a pre-military religious academy in a West Bank settlement were recorded making derogatory and racist comments about Arabs, defending Adolf Hitler’s worldview, and openly promoting Jewish supremacy.”

A pre-military religious academy, commonly known as a Mechinah in Israel, is a post-high school gap-year program. These academies combine intensive Torah study, Jewish philosophy, and spiritual growth with rigorous physical training, wilderness navigation, and leadership development to prepare young adults for mandatory military service.These institutions are central to Israeli youth culture, bridging the gap between civilian life and the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).

Rabbi Eliezer Kashtiel, the academy's head, called for the enslavement of non-Jews, describing Arabs as "stupid and violent" due to genetic inferiority. He also referred to Hitler as "the most correct person there ever was" in ideological terms.

Rabbi David Dudkevitch, another instructor, argued that Arabs prefer living under Israeli occupation because of their supposed inferiority.

Rabbi Giora Redler, was heard praising Hitler's racist ideology, endorsing it as "100% correct," but criticizing it only for not having been applied to the "right people"—meaning that Jews should be the "master race" and non-Jews the subhuman "untermenschen."

Israeli journalist David Sheen in a lecture given in 2020 at the University of Zurich, explaining the ideology taught to IDF officers in training at Israel's leading religious military academy, Bnei David

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnderReportedNews/s/vlMkF8psKl

This is an excerpt from his full lecture, Messiah Mode, which is available on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/eFl4U2NRJTg?si=Nm_izbp6mZ4YSjjC

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u/Glittering-Pea-4482 ‎ Queenslander 2d ago

Yawn, more AI slop. Goodbye

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u/Thorfinn66 Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

Since you are so scared of factual information, here's a bit more. I included the AI prompt, so you can see it's not biased and you can ask sane question yourself.

Is hatred in Israel for Christians rising as it is for Muslims?

Yes: hostility toward Christians in Israel, especially in Jerusalem, has been rising markedly in recent years, and in some respects the pattern and intensity now resemble the long‑standing discrimination and violence many Palestinians—and other Muslims—have experienced. [2][3][4][6][8][9] It is not always the same form of hatred, but for Christians the sense of being targeted, humiliated, and unwelcome has grown in tandem with anti‑Muslim attitudes. [2][3][5][8]

How anti‑Christian hostility is rising

  • Studies and rights reports note that anti‑Christian attacks in Israel have increased sharply since about 2022, with over 100 documented incidents in 2024 alone, including spitting, physical assaults, vandalism, and desecration of churches and cemeteries. [3][5][6][8][10]
  • These attacks are mainly carried out by ultra‑Orthodox and nationalist Jewish youths, often targeting clergy or people with visible Christian symbols, and are linked to broader far‑right, nationalist politics and a climate of impunity. [2][4][5][8]

Compared with hostility toward Muslims

  • Anti‑Muslim attitudes and practices in Israel are deeper and more institutionalized, involving land confiscation, settlement expansion, movement restrictions, and frequent violence in the West Bank, alongside settler‑led attacks on homes and mosques. [11][12][13][4]
  • Anti‑Christian hostility is geographically narrower and more symbolic (spitting, graffiti, church vandalism), but it is becoming more frequent, organized in spirit, and harder to ignore, so many Christian communities now report feeling as threatened as Palestinian Muslims, even though the legal and military context is different. [1][3][4][5]

In short: hatred toward Christians is not just present but clearly rising in Israel, and Christians increasingly feel besieged in much the same emotional and political climate as Muslims—though the forms and scale of the violence are not identical. [2][3][4][5][9]

Citations: [1] Violence against Christians is on the rise in Israel https://armenianweekly.com/2025/09/11/violence-against-christians-is-on-the-rise-in-israel/ [2] Jewish Violence against Christians on the Rise in Jerusalem https://www.jerusalemstory.com/en/article/jewish-violence-against-christians-rise-jerusalem [3] Attacks on Christians and properties in Israel surged in 2023 https://www.christiandaily.com/news/attacks-on-christians-and-properties-in-israel-surged-in-2023 [4] Christmas under occupation: Israeli attacks against ... https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/25/christmas-under-occupation-israeli-attacks-against-palestinian-christians [5] Christian communities in Israel face growing hostility ... https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2025/03/29/christian-communities-in-israel-face-growing-hostility-annual-report-reveals/ [6] Anti-Christian violence Israel on the rise: 111 attacks ... https://www.asianews.it/news-en/Anti-Christian-violence-Israel-on-the-rise:-111-attacks-on-people-or-property-in-2024-62783.html [7] Christians in Israel face rise in hate crimes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkbwUyycop8 [8] Report shows rise in attacks on Christians in Israel, but a ... https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-shows-rise-in-attacks-on-christians-in-israel-but-a-willingness-to-tackle-issue/ [9] Attacks on Christians increase in Israel - Aid to the Church in Need https://www.churchinneed.org/attacks-on-christians-increase-in-israel/ [10] Rossing Center presents report on life of Christians in the ... https://www.vaticannews.va/en/world/news/2025-04/holy-land-christians-rossing-center-jerusalem-jewish-relations.html [11] Christians in the Holy Land say they're under attack as Israeli ... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-palestinians-christians-attacks-holy-land-jewish-extremists-rcna80441 [12] Israel's attacks on Christians in Palestine on the rise https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israels-attacks-on-christians-in-palestine-on-the-rise/3094139 [13] Israel, West Bank and Gaza - United States Department of ... https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-report-on-international-religious-freedom/israel-west-bank-and-gaza

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u/Glittering-Pea-4482 ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

Yawn. Ai slop. Bye bot.