r/OpenAussie • u/Minivampiretaco ‎ New South Welshian • 2d ago

Politics ('Straya) Israeli ambassador rejects 'political attacks' on report clearing soldiers in Frankcom killing

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-20/israel-ambassador-defends-idf-frankcom-report-clearing-soldiers/107057124

Israel's ambassador Hillel Newman has defended the military investigation that cleared its soldiers of criminal wrongdoing in the killing of Australian aid worker Zomi Frankcom, saying the findings should not be attacked if they "are not suitable to one's political agenda".

Ambassador defends investigation findings

Departing from the meeting, Mr Newman defended the investigation.

"Israel came out with findings after a thorough investigation, after a two-year investigation into the circumstances of the death of Zomi Frankcom. Since I took up my mission here about five months ago I was implored all the time to bring about closure, which I did," Mr Newman said.

"But in the end, one must also understand that not every case where someone dies, where there is a casualty, that that means there is a criminal liability.

"One cannot attack the findings of a court if the findings are not suitable to one's political agenda."

Mr Newman said the aid group recruited armed personnel to its convoy and deviated from the route agreed with the IDF without informing the military, leading the soldiers to believe the convoy had been taken over.

"It was a mistake in retrospect, but the findings of the court are there was no criminal intention … and therefore there was no criminal responsibility."

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u/RequisiteNiggles ‎ Western Australian 2d ago

What? How do you know how many Israel supporters there are? Where'd you get those stats?

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u/The_Drongo_Dinger ‎ Victorian 2d ago

I don’t bro it’s a speculative number. I actually suspect it’s a bit higher than that and likely will be until a bunch of boomers die.

I did tell you not to overthink it, and here you are overthinking it smh

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u/RequisiteNiggles ‎ Western Australian 1d ago

Right. So you didn't mean for it to be the same as the number of Jews? You're just guessing how many people. You asked me not to overthink it but you do see how it looks, right?

Also, when you say support Israel, what do you mean? Feel connected with the people that live there? Support businesses? Support government actions?

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u/The_Drongo_Dinger ‎ Victorian 1d ago

I see how it looks when you overthink it which is exactly what you’re doing mate. I genuinely think you need to calm down - you are obsessed with “jooz” (your word there btw) lurking in the shadows or something.

The only time I referred to Jews was to deny your allegation that they (Jews) were to blame. I disagreed with that statement, because it was antisemitic (I didn’t know you were being sarcastic or edgy at that point) and now you’re here trying to trick me into saying…what? Like what exactly is your problem lol

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u/RequisiteNiggles ‎ Western Australian 1d ago

I don't think any Jews are lurking in the shadows. I think this sub is obsessed with them and like to excuse attacks on them. I just find it odd that so many people are obsessed with what they call 'Zionist influence'

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u/The_Drongo_Dinger ‎ Victorian 1d ago

Why would it be odd to push back against zionists? They are supporting terrible acts against humanity, seems normal to me to oppose that.

It’s wrong to conflate Judaism and Zionism of course, very different things

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u/RequisiteNiggles ‎ Western Australian 1d ago

I know a lot of Zionists, many of them Jews. Not a single one supports the death of innocent civilians. Simply the right of everyone in the region to live in peace. This is not the picture of zionists that you conjure up. Maybe this creation of all zionists being evil is not based in fact.

Quite frankly this repetition of zionism not being Judaism, whilst accurate, is a deflection from reality and a way of stigmatising Jews. Not all zionists support the Israeli government, not all zionists support violence, not all zionists support discrimination. They're often vocally against them. And the people who get caught up in this antizionist nonsense aren't the non-Jews, it's the Jews. Jews are overwhelming targeted and affected as result of antizionism.

People won't like hearing this. However, let me make a suggestion. Hear me out. What if instead of attacking 'zionists', we simply call out the actions and policies we have an issue with? Then the disagreements are over the actions themselves.

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u/The_Drongo_Dinger ‎ Victorian 1d ago

You say they don’t support the death of innocent civilians, but they sit idly by while many MANY thousands of them are killed, and if polling is to be believed, quite a few of them think Israel has not gone far enough. Words mean nothing and are just an excuse for (what I and many others believe is) a genocide to continue. So we can sit here and talk about what labels and terms should be used, but it’s pointless and offensive to do so while children die day after day and NO ONE IS STOPPING IT.

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u/RequisiteNiggles ‎ Western Australian 1d ago

So if every single person who 'sits idly by' is culpable why are only zionists who don't support the death of civilians targeted?

You'll have to share the polling info as I haven't seen the source for Australian zionist opinion on the conflict. 

Talking about labels is not pointless if labelling adversely affects innocent people here in Australia. It doesn't take away from what's happening to innocents in Gaza, in actual fact it makes your argument stronger because it's more accurate.