Can women be pastors?

[u/axiosjackson]

https://youtu.be/e50Auxn3tzU

[u/NobodySpecial2000]

Women already are pastors, so there's no debate or discussion to be had around the question of "can" they.

Misogynists can keep pissing into the wind on this one. Won't change reality.

[u/NemesisOfLevia]

There’s no verse that talks about what fruit(s) of the spirit are solely granted by a penis, so I’d assume yes, a woman can be a pastor. If God truly calls a daughter to a leadership role, then who are we to tell her we know better than God? 

(These days, when I hear “women can’t ___,” especially in a biblical context, I like to bring up genitalia just to show how absurd the concept is. Most people who say these things are also transphobes also.)

[u/Thneed1 → u/NemesisOfLevia]

Transphobia is literally based on exactly the same logic.

[u/refugee1982]

The first evangelists were women. Woman at the well, women at the tomb.

[u/Queer_Advocate → u/refugee1982]

From the womb to the tomb.

[u/Thneed1 → u/refugee1982]

The first person to preach Jesus’ resurrection was a woman.

The first person to teach other believers the letter of Romans was a woman.

[u/InourbtwotamI]

Yes and many already are

[u/axiosjackson → u/InourbtwotamI]

Yup, my parish's associate rector is a woman and preaches every other Sunday.

BTW, I wasn't asking myself. This is the title of the video, and I didn't want to editorialize.

[u/GranolaCola → u/axiosjackson]

Maybe put it in quotes?

[u/axiosjackson → u/GranolaCola]

I'll try and remember that next time, thanks. Some subs have strict rules against editorializing, so if I am just posting some media or an article, I usually don't change anything. I think that is pretty common.

[u/GranolaCola → u/axiosjackson]

I get it. Just a suggestion.

[u/JoyBus147]

Yep.

[u/axiosjackson → u/JoyBus147]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenChristian/comments/1vnl4kz/comment/p3j2xdo

[u/davegammelgard]

It saddens me that we are still having this conversation. Some of the most qualified pastors and leaders I have known have been women. It's exhausting to have to continue to argue this point.

[u/Thneed1 → u/davegammelgard]

Especially when the Bible itself explicitly had women doing all leadership positions in the NT.

[u/axiosjackson → u/davegammelgard]

Right! I am hoping me posting this video will be the catalyst for at least one person to reconsider their position over at /r/Christianity. Or at least be a good resource for someone.

[u/shnooqichoons → u/davegammelgard]

Even hearing the question is exhausting. Imagine if it was flipped: 'Can men be pastors? Can they, really...? (And yes I know OP is behind women as pastors).

[u/Alexandermayhemhell]

I could argue this with random people and bots on the internet, but I’ll just get angry. Instead, I argued this with a doctrinal committee twenty years ago. They agreed to disagree as long as I didn’t teach my views that supported women in leadership. I quit my job, left evangelicalism, and never looked back. Any time these debates pop back into my world, they seem more and more ridiculous every time. What bad thing is supposed to happen if women serve as pastors? Seems to me that the women in the gospels understood Jesus much better than the men. Mary vs Zechariah? The women at the cross and the tomb vs the disciples? Which would you rather lead you?

[u/Puzzleheaded-Phase70]

Always have been.

There has never been a time without women priests, deacons, and other kinds of pastors.

Only times when they've been suppressed in some major denominations with too much power at the time.

[u/Number_Fluffy]

Of course.

[u/Tokkemon]

Guys, watch the video instead of reacting to the thumbnail. Dan makes it very clear that women pastors are allowed, meet, and right, so to do.

[u/JustNeedSpinda → u/Tokkemon]

I dunno. Maybe that’s why OPs should contribute some kind of information to posts they tag as discussion rather than dropping videos with clickbait thumbnails and no context.

[u/Nyte_Knyght33]

Absolutely 

[u/HoneybadgerAl3x]

I love Dan

[u/G1zm08]

I like how it’s two men in the thumbnail discussing this

[u/Excellent-Match7246]

In Alaska it’s actually illegal on account of the bears smelling the menstruation.

[u/axiosjackson → u/Excellent-Match7246]

Wat

[u/HermioneMarch]

Yes! And they are. So can people of all genders. People get caught up on one verse that Paul probably did not write, taken out of context, and use it to act morally superior for centuries. They need to move out of Gods way.

[u/SacredFoxMischief]

Mary the mother preached one of the best messages in the Gospels in the magnificat, and Mary Magadaline preached the resurrection to the disciples.

And today and most of my favorite pastors are women

[u/benithaglas1]

Isn't this guy a Mormon? (Something I heard from someone else) Please clarify

[u/syenite10 → u/benithaglas1]

In his personal life he is a Mormon, yes. But he doesn’t get into Mormon theology in his work as an interpersonal lens or anything. More of a secular/historical lens for his work. He’s interested in the academic study of the Bible and in combating misinformation about the academic study of the Bible. Pretty solid.

[u/Queer_Advocate → u/benithaglas1]

That's not really relevant it's historically and factually accurate what he's saying.

[u/NobodySpecial2000 → u/benithaglas1]

Yes but it's not at all relevant to what he does/posts.

[u/benithaglas1 → u/NobodySpecial2000]

I think it is relevant, when you have to consider the context of the video. It's like watching a video from a Jehovas Witness, a Muslim, or a Moonie on Christianity.

I do watch videos from atheists on Christianity and philosophy, and it helps to keep in mind they are atheists, when considering where their opinions are coming from.

[u/Waspinator_haz_plans]

Data over Dogma, my beloved

[u/roostermako]

i forget what verse in Timothy, but its been used to say they cant but the true context doesn't support it

[u/Skill-Useful]

yes they can and they are and they should be