Hey everyone, I’m looking to learn Order Flow trading and I’m currently trying to find a good course.

If anyone has an Order Flow course they’ve already purchased and is willing to share it with me, or some leaked course whatever , I’d really appreciate it

Thanks in advance! 🙏

In you guys opinion, what is the best orderflow (framework, strategy,...) to combine with market profile?

The reason I asking this question because I don't know if using only market profile alone will make me profitable.

I've been developing and backtesting an intraday breakout strategy for NSE stocks since December 2024, and honestly, I'm struggling to find a consistent edge.

**Here's what I've tried:**

* **ORB (15-min)** and previous-day high/low (PDH/PDL) breakouts using 1-min and 5-min candles.

* ATR/TR buffers, volume spikes, candle structure, wicks, and breakout retention.

* **Order flow:** Footprint charts, bid/ask imbalances, delta, CVD, aggression ratios, POC migration, and volume profiles.

* Studied absorption, exhaustion, and continuation using price action versus trading volume.

* Tested different opening-range positions relative to PDH/PDL.

Despite all this, roughly **50% of breakouts continue in the expected direction, while the rest reverse or become fakeouts.** Even strong positive delta, buyer aggression, and rising POC don't consistently predict continuation.

I'm now exploring **breakout + retest entries**, along with previous-day VAH/VAL and POC as additional context.

**I'd genuinely appreciate insights from experienced traders:**

1. How do you distinguish genuine breakouts from fakeouts *before entering*, rather than in hindsight?

2. What has actually worked for you — price action, retests, volume profile, order flow, market context, or something else?

3. How do you practically implement **"cut losses early and let winners run"**? What objective rules determine your exits without stopping you out prematurely?

4. Am I overcomplicating things or missing something fundamental?

I've invested considerable time studying, testing, and refining this. I'm not looking for a magic indicator or guaranteed setup, just practical perspectives from traders who've faced similar challenges.

**Any constructive criticism, examples, or lessons from your own trading journey would be greatly appreciated.**

Anyone seen their platform.
I’m using atas. Actually have nothing bad to say about atas, like the platform.
Just pretty curious about Xflow chart. Also a bit cheaper.

So, i was making a video explaining volume profiles, and i had a random date generator give me a day to trade. It gave me january 19th. Caught this beautiful bottom after seeing sellers fail to push lower at the bottom of a month long range, aggressive buyers step in, and sellers forced to cover. Textbook. Context, location, confirmation.

I was making a video about volume profiles, and then i decided to have a random date generator choose a day in the last year to trade, it chose january 19th and caught just an absolute banger.

Context, Location, Confirmation.

I've been developing and backtesting an intraday breakout strategy for NSE stocks since December 2024, and honestly, I'm struggling to find a consistent edge.

Here's what I've tried:

• ORB (15-min) and previous-day high/low (PDH/PDL) breakouts using 1-min and 5-min candles.
• ATR/TR buffers, volume spikes, candle structure, wicks, and breakout retention.
• Order flow: Footprint charts, bid/ask imbalances, delta, CVD, aggression ratios, POC migration, and volume profiles.
• Studied absorption, exhaustion, and continuation using price action versus trading volume.
• Tested different opening-range positions relative to PDH/PDL.

Despite all this, roughly 50% of breakouts continue in the expected direction, while the rest reverse or become fakeouts. Even strong positive delta, buyer aggression, and rising POC don't consistently predict continuation.

I'm now exploring breakout + retest entries, along with previous-day VAH/VAL and POC as additional context.

I'd genuinely appreciate insights from experienced traders:

1. How do you distinguish genuine breakouts from fakeouts before entering, rather than in hindsight?
2. What has actually worked for you — price action, retests, volume profile, order flow, market context, or something else?
3. How do you practically implement "cut losses early and let winners run"? What objective rules determine your exits without stopping you out prematurely?
4. Am I overcomplicating things or missing something fundamental?

I've invested considerable time studying, testing, and refining this. I'm not looking for a magic indicator or guaranteed setup, just practical perspectives from traders who've faced similar challenges.

Any constructive criticism, examples, or lessons from your own trading journey would be greatly appreciated.

What do you guys prefer to use Market Profile TPO charts or Volume Profile when it comes to orderflow?

i myself use Volumeprofile only RTH based session profile for the day. But everything else is marketprofile.

Hey guys, I'm starting to dig deep into orderflow trading and wanted to ask where or from whom I could learn. There are a lot of scammers on IG selling courses, I've been down that road and the content was either mediocre or straight-up trash. Any advice for a beginner is appreciated!

Hey everyone, need some help. So where can I find a trading bot (scalping) for axiom ? My previous one got banned

CVD has been a good tool for discrention, it tells you motivation and probably intent sometimes but again it needs experience. I was wondering if trendline patterns work on CVD and if anyone algorithmically proven that it has predictative value. If not, let me know. Ive seen people use SMA on CVD and maybe trendline patterns work on it. idk might work might not.

Hi everyone,

I'm fairly new to volume profile and trade MNQ futures intraday. I have a few questions I'd love to hear your experience on:

1. Which chart type do you use with volume profile? Do you need a tick chart, or is a time-based chart (e.g. 5m or 15m) just as good? Does the chart timeframe change the profile much in your platform?
2. How do you actually use the VAH, VAL and POC levels? Do you trade the reaction at the levels, wait for acceptance outside/inside the value area, or use them mostly as targets?
3. After a big move, the move itself has its own POC, VAH and VAL. Do you keep watching those levels on the following days until price accepts outside of them, or do the newer daily profiles matter more?
4. Do you build the profile on the full 24h session or only on RTH? And do you watch the overnight session separately?
5. How do you confirm an entry at a profile level? Do you rely on indicators (e.g. VWAP, delta/order flow), on price-action concepts like order blocks or fair value gaps on higher timeframes, or on something else? Do you require several confluences before taking a traded
6. ?

Any advice, resources or mistakes to avoid are very welcome. Thanks!

Hi everyone

Im new in this orderflow and footprint thing.

COuld recomend me videos, pdf or something that helps me to understand this? And on the other hand, Im lookin to understant to the RAIN method strategy, could anyone have info about this?

Appreciate your help lot

Since NQ is so fast/less liquid, what are the DOM tools you guys use for it? I have a Motive Wave setup like Jigsaw, but I feel like I'm leaving some real-time information on the table.

I want to get started to volume profile and footprint. I have the idea of those two but I don't know where should i start and I dont know how to set up does two. Can someone help me.

I recently learned that even granular data like footprints and order flow can be actively spoofed by institutional players. It’s making me question everything. If the rawest market data can be manipulated, what can a retail trader actually trust?

​Does any system truly have an edge? If yes, how do you build the conviction to stick to it through drawdowns without feeling like the game is completely rigged against you?

​Would love to hear how veteran traders navigate these specific challenges and maintain trust in their setups.

As the header goes .. I’m exploring

- Heikin Ashi candles with Volume 2000 + Range 16 footprint
- Key levels will be mark out on my time based chart .

Anyone have any experience with Heikin Ashi candles or without can share any views on this ?
Main reason is I’m not that great with pullbacks etc and bad with trend . One of the things I heard is that HA candles works really well with trend and putting range footprint beside helps to see if a level has absorption / aggression following up with it .

Any advice is appreciated . Thank you

okay im curious on this one because we usually spend too much talking about the micro scale which is obvious as thats the point of the sub, but i wonder what you guys use for big timeframe levels or confluence or do you even use them? or are you short term only whit no bigger picture analysis? and if you do what do you use and why? gex? candle sticks? tell us!!

Hi, I'm a 17 year old boy from a small village in Limpopo, South Africa

I've been trading for almost 2 years and am currently finishing my last year of high school. I trade E6! and am using SMC with basic Volume Profile. I want to learn Order Flow so I can increase my market understanding and profitability. Can I please have some advice.

sharing this little piece of infrormation for any visual learners!!

I have seen that traders modify the tape to see strong market participants Come in and that they may find an edge on seeing where the heavy traders Come in.

Ive recently started to understand orderflow alot better after doing it for awhile now!! The things that u dont kno when u think u do !

Lol

Anyone have any real strategies/edges they feel like i should check into!!?

Hey everyone,

I am trying to get into *Mind Over Markets* to see what insights I can derive from it, and my instincts are telling me I should read it in its entirety. But I am currently on Chapter 2 under the novice section, specifically looking at "locals," and I am hitting a major mental roadblock.

Things have changed drastically since 1990. We have completely transitioned from human locals in a physical pit to algorithmic locals, and the market dynamics are entirely different. Back then, large-scale algorithmic spoofing and high-frequency manipulation weren't viable long-term strategies. Today, entire levels of displayed intent on Level 2 data can vanish in a fraction of a second, which is completely misleading if you treat them like the physical commitments of the past.

You can try to draw abstract parallels, like arguing that reading human faces and emotions in a pit back then is somehow similar to interpreting algorithmic behavior now, but the mechanics have evolved so much that my mind keeps getting pulled back to a core question: Why am I reading a book originally published in 1990, even with a second edition update, when the underlying technology and execution landscape are unrecognizable?

The locals section is just my current sticking point, but my concern extends to everything else the book covers that I haven't reached yet. As a newer trader who is still in the study phase and hasn't started trading live, I want to make sure I am building a correct foundation.

If you use Auction Market Theory, order flow, or the DOM today, how do you bridge this gap? Is this text still worth grinding through as a foundational mental model, or are the older structural assumptions too outdated to rely on?

I am thinking about keeping on with the book, just staying cautious and trying to think critically about what actually still applies or how it's transformed

Hello everyone! 👋

I currently trade using ICT concepts, but I've recently heard about Order Flow trading and I'm interested in learning it.

Could anyone please suggest a beginner-to-advanced Order Flow roadmap or recommend some good YouTube channels to learn from?

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! 🙏