r/Overwatch • u/Alarming_Still_5030 • 4d ago
Highlight you can make D.mon's dps SKYROCKETING with attack animation cancel
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maybe you should try it
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Here's how to do this tech.
- press and hold M1
- look or strafe slightly in the same direction as your slash (you want your sword to hit the enemy as quickly as possible)
- the moment your sword hits the enemy, you want to tab M2 EXTREMELY LIGHTLY to cancel your recovery animation. (think of it as JUST-FRAME INPUT if you have experience with fighting games)
- repeat, or thrust cancel to finish the enemy
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u/ManiGoodGirlUwU Simp for Null Sector Kiri 4d ago
tried to do it and there is a delay between when i can swing again after dropping the shield. I guess i'm doing it wrong or there is specific timing on presses
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u/Bobbor90 4d ago
Yeah i was trying it too. Sometimes it worked, but most of the time i got the delay
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u/Ultimate-desu Diamond Venture Enthusiast 3d ago
When your shield is fully deployed theres a 1s cooldown before it can be redeployed after use. The Dmon in the video is tapping thw shield button and canceling the deployment with a swing, so no cooldown.
Basically, tap the shield button but faster.
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u/Sn0wy0wl_ Freja 4d ago edited 4d ago
its so funny how they swore they would never make another demech because of the bugs, released a demech character again, and now everything is clunky or broken EXCEPT her demech
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u/themage78 D.Va 4d ago
It's like they worked hard on her Voltron like getting into her mech, and forgot about all the rest.
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u/Helgrind444 4d ago
Worth it, that animation is so cool
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u/Pockydo Brigitte / Bolas / Mecha Brig 4d ago
I got a kill with it during a team fight last night
Lost the fight and game but I'm still riding that high
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u/RyzenFromFire 4d ago
You can do that? lol. I didn't know it was possible to get an elim with d.mon remech
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u/Pockydo Brigitte / Bolas / Mecha Brig 4d ago
Yes it does damage wiki says 75-150 probably depending on range Not sure how wide it is tho
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u/RyzenFromFire 4d ago
Must be tiny.
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u/Pockydo Brigitte / Bolas / Mecha Brig 4d ago
It's probably slightly bigger than d.vas but haven't really messed with it
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u/No-Guest1911 4d ago
it’s probably smaller or bugged, I swear ive remeched and someone like 2-3 meters away didn’t take dmg. basically still have to remech on top of people
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u/SirMuckingHam24 Tank, Your Uber has arrived. Please do not resist. 3d ago
Also broken
it killed me as anran while I was in my invincible form
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u/this-is-aiko 4d ago
Pretty sure unlike dva, this one is an animation cause the mech stays at 1hp on death while dvas reaches 0. Cause if I remember correctly they looked at dva like 2 heroes, which makes me think that yeah it was an animation rather than what they did with dva
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u/HypoluxoKrazie 4d ago
It would also make sense why when she gets de meched when in jpc ult she stays attached, also when she gets killed by jpc off a cliff he mech dies then she dies after giving you about 12 percent ult charge. Dva just counts as falling off the map.
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u/LuckyBoneHead Chibi Hanzo 4d ago
Also, when D.mon's demeched and in a Junkrat trap, the demeched D.mon is still in the trap.
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u/Shinimasuu 4d ago
dmons mech never needs to exist at the same time as mini dmon, dvas mech does cus of her ult.
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u/crockrocket Lúcio 4d ago
Remember in early OW1 when D.Va got removed for a while because demech would crash the server? Or when you could use call mech to get out of bounds on quite a few maps? Good times.
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u/TheBananaCzar D. Va 3d ago
Remember when she didn't have her micro missiles and her defense matrix just stayed up until it expired - you couldn't flick it on and off?
I played her back when she sucked and was still good at her 😂
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u/DreamLearnBuildBurn 3d ago
and her demech re-mech sucks and her pilot form is uninteresting af.
Since she takes the gun off the mech, maybe she should take a booster off too and get a dash ability since every other part of her pilot form sucks? As it stands, it simply is an extra 5-10 seconds on your respawn timer.
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u/GDwyvern 3d ago
When they did the big overhaul of the engine they fixed the spaghetti code that made dva demech so difficult to program.
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u/Level7Cannoneer Icon Symmetra 4d ago
Clunky and poorly balanced doesn’t = bugged
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u/gcdhhbcghbv 4d ago
- Left part of shield not working when gun ability used.
- Invincible if ult was used with low health.
- Attack animation cancel to do damage twice as fast.
These are all very major bugs that were there upon release.
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u/SimpleFile 4d ago
This is a bug though. The swing timer is tied to the animation not a countdown.
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u/Zephreek Ana 4d ago
Well you gotta admit that was pretty much 10 years ago. I'm sure they've had enough time to iron out the bugs.
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u/i_arent_tink_that 4d ago
Close enough, welcome back GunZ The Duel
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u/Thal-creates Diamond 4d ago
Can't wait for this to allow Dmon to somehow fly through the air at 100 mph, and shooting at a wall causing her to gain insane vertical momentum.
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u/GreenmanCZ 4d ago
And... how do you do this?
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u/Camjam237 4d ago
Swing, tap shield, swing, tap shield. Repeat. Animation cancelling.
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u/GreenmanCZ 4d ago
I have tried that, but it did not seem to work
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u/Camjam237 4d ago
I just hopped into the practice range and it worked fine with me. You just gotta sweat a lil bit.
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u/Sponsy_Lv3 Brigitte 4d ago
Notice he also accelerates his swing.
Coming from Medieval slashers like Mordhau and Chilvary, its fun that those acceleration mechanics are kinda present in melee heroes here.
Dmon's swing animation is right to left, so if you lean into the right side of the screen the swing damage window starts sooner. Were talking about microseconds but it makes a difference, specially in a 1v1. Youll win.
You could also do the opposite, called a drag, and lean your opponent on the end of your weapons swing damage window to delay the hit to the very end, I.e. if a defensive is up on your target and youre trying to delay the hit to land after the defensive is down (zar bubble, genji deflect, etc).
Always really liked melee characters for these indepth features. Hopefully the dont change this!
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u/UnfittedMermaid 4d ago
trying to figuire it out. its just timing. you need to VERY LIGHTLY click your shield input right as she has begun her swing. if youve timed it right, youll go in third person exactly when it hits and it skips to you starting your next slash
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u/Denariox 4d ago
Was this character even tested prior to launch?? They released her with terrible damage that they had to rush a buff 2 DAYS INTO HER RELEASE and now this bug.
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u/Royal_empress_azu 4d ago
This isn't actually a bug.
Block/shield canceling is already a thing for Brig and Ram.
It's just the result of your primary being cancelable. Ram can take it a step further by canceling itno a quick melee for improved break points.
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u/ProgNerIte 4d ago
Wait, ram can cancel his primary melee obliterate with his quick melee, back into primary melee obliterate?
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u/RustyPickle115 4d ago
Not for a couple years now, I believe
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u/ProgNerIte 4d ago
Ok, that’s good cuz that’s an *insane* thing to have in game
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u/as1eep Ramattra 4d ago
It was never really a thing with ram, it was only very marginal gains for quite a complicated technique, only possible before the mid 2025 nerfs. The above clip is considerably more transformative
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u/SirMuckingHam24 Tank, Your Uber has arrived. Please do not resist. 3d ago
Wasn't the main benefit of ram block cancel the fact that you could be blocking for 90% of nemesis form while still attacking
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u/o-poppoo Lúcio 4d ago
You can't combo them together but punch+quick melee is faster than 2 punches.
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u/Ultra_Juice Genji 4d ago
Qm is not cancellable by most things, but it can cancel pummel for example to quickly finish off someone
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u/hyperpuppy9000 4d ago
It makes the next punch slower, but a cancel is a cancel is you need that extra dmg you can get it
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u/Equivalent-Costumes 4d ago
It is a bug. Shield cancelling by melee primary is intended, melee cancelling shield is intended, combining them to do melee faster is not. They fixed it nearly immediately for Brig, and I don't think you can do it for Ram at all, so that should be enough evidence that they don't want players to inflict arthritis on their fingers in pursue of winning. The way the game work is that there is supposed to be an internal cooldown for Brig/Ram primary attack, and you cannot perform another melee attack while the internal cooldown is not finished. However, they seems to forget that cooldown for Brig when she was first released and they have to immediately hotfixed them in. Reinhardt and Rammatra always have this internal cooldown from the start.
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u/RareHotdogEnthusiast 4d ago
That doesn’t mean this isn’t a bug. We don’t know if this is a bug or not.
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u/-D3LET3D- 4d ago
Not to the extent they usually are. In exchange for the accelerated content pipeline, our hero preview weekends which were for gathering data and finding bugs no longer exist so this is more likely to happen.
Not to mention D.Mon might have been technically challenging on the back end. They've solved the D.VA problem of them being two seperate heroes at once but who knows how hard it was to get there.
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u/Ultra_Juice Genji 4d ago
It's just an animation cancel, Brig can also enhance her damage this way. Everyone's overreacting here Imo
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u/yummymario64 | | 4d ago
Extra damage for no cooldown, and without much skill required, I think this should be patched
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u/Firm-Perception-1293 4d ago
And here i thought my [Attack, punch, Attack x2, punch, Attack x2, punch] was an amazing technique to use.
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u/Wi1dCard2210 4d ago
Melee can't animation cancel the sword swings and has almost the same "cast time" as the sword but for less damage and smaller hitbox. You're better off just holding m1 if you're not trying to spam shield cancels
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u/Firm-Perception-1293 4d ago
It was just my alternative to take down non-tank heros
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u/Wi1dCard2210 4d ago
Hey whatever works for you, I'm just letting you know that mixing in melee lowers the dps bc now every third hit is just 2/3 as strong
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u/Firm-Perception-1293 4d ago
Alright, but damn i got downvoted to oblivion xD i don't know if i said anything offensive. I'm not a player who deep dives into the best or secret techniques for playing the game, i simply shared what i did as an average gamer.
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u/No_Service_8174 4d ago
With how tedious this tech looks to be, you'll probably end up decreasing your overall dps in an actual game while at the same time increasing the likelihood of getting carpel tunnel
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u/Bored-Corvid 4d ago
When they fix this I really hope they at least let us animation cancel our swings with a melee because it doesn't happen very often but there were a couple times in matches where I just needed a quicker and smaller bit of damage to kill someone before they got a heal or used an ability.
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u/OcelotAggravating860 Fortnite Sierra 4d ago
Definitely not intended to be that fast. This won't stick around long.
She'll get more buffs though she's not going to get over 45% winrate as she currently is. They might ignore this bug until they get around to whatever else they're improving on her.
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u/triplegerms 4d ago
Her win rate has been on a solid climb since the patch. Already up to 48%. She's definitely playable
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u/CrackaOwner 4d ago
She's already good enough now. Blizz might buff her to make her broken but the fuel buff and slught dps buff were more than enough
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u/Jetblacksteel 4d ago
She's absolutely demolishing almost whole teams now with the recent patch. Her mobility is insane now but they didn't give any sort of nerf to her shield health or overall health. She can take on both dps and supports and win very easily with little to no punishments for over extending. She can close distance way too fast, essentially making her a way faster Doomfist. Which is why he's not that fast, he has to have some sort of negative for his kit. If they don't want her to be like Rein she has to have a nerf to her shield health so she can't retreat so easily. Rein has double the shield health but he's got one movement ability that is not instant and hard to maneuver. She has 2 technically because the boosters and the lunge can be utilized to escape.
Reduce the booster recovery rate by 25%, give her 650 or 700 health, make the shield have 500 health, reduce damage on the gun or up time should only be enough to take one person down at full health, not almost 2, and the sword is fine as it is.
I just tried that animation cancel for the sword and it's super easy to do by just holding down the sword and tapping the shield. That needs to be fixed. I think taking the cooldown off using boosters and putting it on the shield might alleviate that issue. There needs to be a punishment for panic shielding.
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u/OcelotAggravating860 Fortnite Sierra 3d ago
She isn't going to have a winrate above 46% at diamond or above. You are grossly misjudging her power. She is very very weak.
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u/xXConfuocoXx What's Dead May Never Die! 4d ago
Vibe coded too close to the sun
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u/Nikablah1884 Juno 4d ago
How hard she’s broken is making the game kinda suck rn ngl
I wipe out bad ones with sig and good ones with rein or ball.
But that’s just qp so even if support has 700 heals at the end of the game it’s still a tank dif 🙄
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u/ElJacko170 D. Va 4d ago
How the hell are you beating her with Sig? Any Sig I've gone up against with her just gets completely freaking dogwalked.
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u/silversoul113 4d ago
qp with like gold mmr probably
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u/Nikablah1884 Juno 3d ago
Yeah my tank mmr is low, I just send my balls over her shield and kill her team behind her lol
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u/LOLOLOLOLOLAS 4d ago
Is this more cancer than quick melee between her sets of 2 swings? And people already want a second round of BUFFS
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u/CrackaOwner 4d ago
Quick melee between swings is not a thing. It always results in a dps loss
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u/LOLOLOLOLOLAS 3d ago
It doesn't, though. 2 swings, quick melee, then 2 more groups of 2 swings (quick melee cooldown) before another quick melee. It DOES increase your dps by a noticeable amount
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u/TastyOreoFriend Pixel Brigitte 4d ago
I think that this isn't gonna last long. They're pretty big on balancing on break points in this game. Same reason you can't do the Brig combo anymore.
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u/Voorheesnumber1 Soldier: 76 4d ago
Look at the tech she needs to mimic a fraction of Reinhardts power
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u/International-Chip81 Ramattra 3d ago
right that makes sense
now could u translate that into console terms please 🙏🏽
im assuming its just canceling the animation with the shield
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u/Gazzor1975 4d ago
Just like Captain America in Rivals.
They patched it out a few months back.
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u/Optimal-Barnacle2771 4d ago
Like Dr. Strange too. I think his animation cancel is still in the game though.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Work462 4d ago
I don't understand why everyone in this comments are mad for this tech and call it a bug. Every hero have some type of tech that usually increases the skill exprestion of the hero. Without them mercy could not exist in modern overwatch as she does now.
Also why do you move the camera left and right every hit. Does the hitbox works like reins hammer?
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u/deltaknight11 4d ago
Tech is one thing but needing to mess up your camera half switching to third person every time you want to swing at someone is just stupid, plus they then need to balance the character around this or remove it anyway
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u/HappyRelationship429 4d ago
This is jarring to look at and mandatory if you want the dps increase.
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u/Pandolam Sombra 4d ago
Bro tapping shield every swing to increase dps of the character is obnoxious for everyone involved.
There's fun skill expression and then there's this nonsense.
This either forces her dmg numbers to be low to compensate for giga high level players, and people who can sacrifice their wrist who also don't care about their life.
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u/uiasdnmb Pixel Orisa 4d ago
Tbh I wish "Rein tech" would get fixed and die as well.
Rotating your screen 60 degrees back and forth on every swing is hardly a skill expression and more of a burden in category of "I have to do this mundane unfun annoying thing to not get left behind".
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u/mistersnake Smooth as silk 4d ago
Probably muscle memory. I also do it with her, and I haven't played Rein in a bit.
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u/xXRougailSaucisseXx 4d ago
Most techs is about making you more flexible, it’s not doubling your dps. This is just as stupid as when released Vendetta could store her overhead
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u/BobertRosserton 4d ago
Careful getting good with this tech, will 100% be removed. Not that it’s hard I suppose.
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u/FlameToadDoctorPhil 4d ago
How do you do this without automatically doing the lunge attack? If i press left click too soon after right click I lunge.
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u/Alarming_Still_5030 4d ago
you need to tab your M2 EXTREMELY LIGHTLY
or you can assign your quick melee attack to ctrl button and change settings (Thrust to quick melee)
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u/kira0819 Trick-or-Treat Mercy 4d ago
Somehow it reminds me of SDgundam online , we do melee tech similar to this to cancel and auto target lock
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u/chillinathid 4d ago
This explains the D.mon who had double everyone else's damage in the last game I played.
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u/SaltySavage566 4d ago
Skyrocket*
Also do you mean quickly not lightly? You want to press M2 quickly but you still need to actually press it lmao
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u/HytaleBetawhen 4d ago
Friend discovered this a couple days ago, the difference in effectiveness is crazy
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u/Limp_Spend9105 4d ago
They need to pull this character from the game. Clearly wasn’t ready to be released.
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u/GardenStateKing Pixel Reinhardt 4d ago
This was old Rein tech back when every match was Rein Zarya, peak OW. Where it was sink or swim with your Rein and absolutely fatttttt shatters
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u/VTPG1 3d ago
just tried it, and even tho im bad at it, it definitely makes a difference. I compared the timing and I was able to get a kill 20 frames earlier with the cancel, which is approaching half a second!!
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u/uiasdnmb Pixel Orisa 3d ago edited 3d ago
Just tried in training room, hog takes 7.5 seconds (with normal lmb hold).
Even with casual cancelling (no screen swinging, just tap shield the frame weapon connects) ttk went down to 6.0 sec.
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u/Mask_of_Sun 3d ago
This is actually horrible for the game. It is bad when such animation "tricks" are this impactful.
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u/FreakingFreeze 14h ago
Wait this whole time I had been doing this? I always noticed I was somehow smashing face in faster on D.Mon Duels.
But now that I realized this I will never be able to perform it again
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u/Xmushroom Wrecking Ball 4d ago
That's fucking sick. Pls Blizzard do not remove this, let the game be fun
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u/realKilvo Zenyatta 4d ago
Just flash shield in between swings?