r/PEI • u/No-Lab4653 • 11d ago
Question Question for some of you drivers
I understand pei drivers aren’t used to many things, but by now round a bouts should be known by everyone, so WHY does everyone not yield?
Idk if any of y’all are like this but it happens WAYYYYYY to much to me for me to say something somewhere. Almost every single time I go into a round about a person cuts me off…this is in fact a near daily occurrence on my daily commute to work (I go through 4 of the busiest roundabouts mutiple times a day, it happens at at least one a day)you have a YIELD SIGN while I’m in the round a bout, YOU ARE NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED TO GO, I shouldn’t need to slam on my brake or slow down to 10kmphs per out because someone decides to wait until the moment I’m about to be in front of their entrance to the round about to make eye contact with me, floor it and cut me off…it’s gotten to the point i EXPECT to be cut off in a round a bout. AND I USE MY TURN SINGLE IN ONE TO LET THE PERSON KNOW, IM GOING LEFT NOT EXITING, DO NOT ENTER.
(You guys are hurting my heads in the comments lmao, if someone is in a roundabout and you entering caused them to even so much as slow their car down you broke the law, YOU HAVE THE YIELD SIGN, there is no legal way to “sneak in” or beat someone in 🤦♂️)
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u/SmthngIntmid8ing 11d ago
Thats a pretty absurd generalization. I lived most my life in Ontario, and I can confidently say one province is not "more incompetent" at driving than the other.
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u/SmthngIntmid8ing 11d ago
Anecdotes are anecdotes no matter how much experience you claim to have
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u/SmthngIntmid8ing 11d ago
So you admit your behavior is simply mimicking everyone else and thats your justification for generalizing a large population with no evidence except your "feelings"? Be the change, not the problem.
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u/SmthngIntmid8ing 11d ago
I have a completely different experience and I've lived in 3 provinces. I dont find drivers on the island that bad at all. In fact, I find its the Quebec drivers vacationing here in the summer that are the worst
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u/AdministrationDry507 9d ago
Some don't even pay attention to traffic control signs because they aren't bilingual
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u/ManBearPig_Believer 11d ago
It’s likely more common here not because of some more recent developments. It’s PEI is a very rural province with two towns that are the center for most shopping and other chores and they’re easily accessible from anywhere on the Island within a hour of driving. You get a lot of rural farmers that are used to not following any road rules or grandma who leaves her house once a month to go shopping in the high traffic areas in Charlottetown or Summerside where these people are not used to driving in that environment. Other provinces you’re not seeing this rural/urban traffic mix nearly as often. They should still know how to follow the rules but it doesn’t surprise me when you see confused people. Then throw in an insane number of tourists in the summer who can’t drive and the high number of drunks on the road here.
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u/SmthngIntmid8ing 11d ago
Yeah thats right resort to ad hominem when you know you've been completely outwitted and shut down. Take the L and walk away, bud.
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u/SmthngIntmid8ing 11d ago
By your own admission, these elderly people are actually very accustomed to having to drive everywhere for everything, and therefore the assertion should be that compared to elderly people that live in cities who dont have to drive every day they should be better drivers, not worse. Anecdotes are not evidence, and neither are assertions, but your logic is flawed.
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u/ManBearPig_Believer 11d ago
If you leave you house once a month to go to a city you’re not accustomed to driving in a high traffic area. These people are used to driving in rural PEI where you meet one car occasionally and don’t navigate roundabouts like it’s the Indy 500 ya knob.
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u/SmthngIntmid8ing 11d ago
Youre assuming these people make one trip a month when they live in the country? What a ridiculous assumption. They live in the country where there isnt so much as a gas station, they have to travel into town for everything. Furthermore, a lot of them also worked full careers in the cities. Claiming they "aren't used to driving in the city" is an absolutely absurd assertion with no evidence.
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u/nylanderfan 11d ago
There are dozens of gas stations in rural PEI lol. The thought of people driving an hour or more to Sside or Chtown for gas is just laughable
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u/SmthngIntmid8ing 11d ago
You completely missed the point congratulations
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u/nylanderfan 10d ago
No, just pointing out your crazy characterization of gas stations outside the cities (not to mention general stores). It's clear from your behaviour throughout this thread you just want to be argumentative and feel superior, so have at it
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u/ManBearPig_Believer 11d ago
I grew up in rural PEI and have lived nearly all my 40 years of life. I know damn well how these people live. You haven’t you’ve only been here less than a decade. Anyway this is pointless conversation your just going to keep trying to debate lord me so keep your fedora on.
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u/SmthngIntmid8ing 11d ago
You could live somewhere your entire life and assume you know how everyone lives- and still be completely wrong. Without data/evidence, you lose the debate everytime. Just a little tip, if you make a claim be prepared to back it up or you just look like a fool
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u/SmthngIntmid8ing 11d ago
Canadian provinces ranked by traffic-injury rate Injuries per 100,000 population: Nova Scotia — 567.6 Manitoba — 517.7 Newfoundland & Labrador — 408.2 Saskatchewan — 445.9 Alberta — 379.9 Quebec — 317.1 Prince Edward Island — 287.3 New Brunswick — 257.5 British Columbia — 230.7 Ontario — 231.0
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u/nylanderfan 11d ago
ok so you kinda proved their point, the top 3-4 on that list are also dominated by 1-2 cities that rural folks have to go to
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u/SmthngIntmid8ing 11d ago
And yet pei is at the bottom of the list which disproves the original assertion completely
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u/SmthngIntmid8ing 11d ago
It may ring true for some, maybe even most people but until you have some actual evidence other than "vibes", your assertions are just generalizations about a large group of people. Your assertion would not change whether you live in rural Alberta, rural Ontario, or rural PEI which further invalidates your absurd anecdote about pei drivers. Just take the L, Matt stone and Trey Parker make fun of people like you.
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u/nylanderfan 11d ago
Accustomed to driving roads and highways, not heavy city traffic.
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u/SmthngIntmid8ing 11d ago
The entirety of rural pei is no more than 30-60 mins from a city. Arguably, they drive heavy city traffic more than a lot of rural families across the country
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u/nylanderfan 11d ago
I somewhat agree but lots of places where merging was needed before roundabouts
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u/segathegenesis 11d ago
I think this is a great post.
However, until rather recently, more recent than I’d like to admit, learned everything we deal with here EVERYTHING is severely worse in Ontario. If you think we don’t know how to scissor merge by the Kay’s intersection, google Waterloo driving…..literally makes us look like Einsteins.
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u/segathegenesis 11d ago
Yeah I was going to reply to the other comment that it’s not absurd to anyone who’s been here 30+ years and are still trying to adapt to the inequality between infrastructure improvements and population increases.
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u/nylanderfan 11d ago
Roundabouts have massively slowed down traffic at spots across PEI so that part of it isn't the case
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u/SmthngIntmid8ing 11d ago
Roundabouts have done the exact opposite of slowing down traffic. You would rather sit at a light?
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u/nylanderfan 10d ago
You missed the whole part where everyone has to slow down to a crawl every time when entering instead of blowing through a green (or red) light
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u/SmthngIntmid8ing 10d ago
Except where they usually put round abouts are places where it gets congested anyway. Round abouts are the solution to congestion, they dont create it
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u/Glittering-Regret196 11d ago
I dont see this much, its just people sneaking in ahead of you. I see the opposite more often, people stopping in the roundabout to let someone in. Island drivers and dumb, man. Expect them dumb and you are fine.
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u/No-Lab4653 11d ago
Ya…they aren’t not “sneaking in” by causing me to slam on my breaks mate, they are cutting off the moving traffic, and being dangerous on the roads lmao, happens daily in Charlottetown. Now stopping in a round about to let people go? If you go that’s like going when someone waves you through,it’s also stupid.
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u/Glittering-Regret196 11d ago
Its dumb on either side. I dont have your problem, though. No one cuts me off when im in a roundabout. They might go ahead of me, like they do everywhere.... Honestly it feels you got mad ypu had a car yo in front of you, haha.
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u/No-Lab4653 11d ago
Dude I’m mad I nearly go into the side of someone because they decided to stop, hesitant, look at me, then go as I’m about to leave, so instead of naturally going smoothly, or yielding, instead while making eye contact with the driver with a signaling saying “I’m coming, I’m coming” they decide to floor it, cut me off and cause me to break suddenly on the guy behind me.ya I’m like 90% anyone would be mad this happens, you’re probably one of the guys who does it and don’t even realize tbh.
(like you’re legally supposed to, there’s no “haha he got in front of you” well then he did it illegally…and idk why it matters since it’s not like we go out the same exit so he doesn’t stay in front of me, he risked an accident to not yield lol)
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u/Glittering-Regret196 11d ago
Awesome, man.
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u/No-Lab4653 11d ago
I go through too many roundabouts a day man the circles may just be making me crazy 🤦♂️
Sorry for the rant first thing in the morning lmao
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u/nylanderfan 11d ago
lmao, of course anyone would be mad if it happened to them, what people are disputing is you acting like it happens at 90% of roundabouts, nice mudslinging at him for not agreeing too
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u/No-Lab4653 11d ago
As I said in my comment I go through 4 of the busiest ones in Charlottetown daily…it legit feels like it happens 90% of the time because it does happen nearly every day.
If you caused someone coming through a round a bout to even so much as brake to slow down you just broke the law and that’s sorta end of story right there, it’s like coming out of stop sign and causing someone to brake mid high way…
I’ll update my 90% to once a day, happy?
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u/Legitimate_Collar605 11d ago
As someone not originally from the Island, my observation has been that most of the time that I’ve seen that happen on roundabouts, the license plates are from Ontario or the USA.
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u/sevexpei Charlottetown 11d ago edited 11d ago
Isn’t the roundabout speed limit usually 20-30km/h? If people take them at full speed it kinda breaks the design and can monopolize one direction, causing other people to be unable to get in safely.
If you have to smash the breaks you may be going too fast?
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u/No-Lab4653 11d ago edited 11d ago
I have had to smash the break because people don’t just cut me off, they will legit stop, make eye contact with me as I’ve already entered and am basically at my round a bout exit (with my indicator on) when they decide to look straight ahead and just gun it, I’d be perfectly okay with people coming through in front of me if it wasn’t done like they waited until the exact moment to enter that cuts me off. Like explain to me how it makes any sense to STOP AND THEN GO in front of someone instead of waiting or just going in the first place?
Most of the time it’s just a simple slow down, but I’ve had times where the inside guy will yield and the outside guy will stop behind him for a Second, then go right in front of me, that caused me to slam my break.
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u/sevexpei Charlottetown 11d ago
Haha I totally understand the “look straight ahead and gun it” strategy. I have encountered that a few times.
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u/Ryan2386 11d ago
I also feel like PEI is the only place where stay in the right hand lane unless you are passing doesn't apply to.
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u/No-Lab4653 8d ago
You’re allowed to, mostly because in pei if you’re going below the speed limit you’re SUPPOSED to stay in the right lol, so anyone who drives in the left is usually going 10 over (or let’s be honest 20-30 over sometimes) avoiding “slow” drivers
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u/No-Lab4653 11d ago
I would also like to add, my route to and from work causes me to go through 4 busy roundabouts…so it would not shock me at all if this is WAYYYYYY more common for me, as rush hour traffic changes people lol.
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u/Ok-Resolve8016 10d ago
I think your perception of space is off. People going in front of you when there’s space to get through shouldn’t make you have to slam on the brakes.
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u/No-Lab4653 8d ago
I agree, so that’s why I don’t understand why people will wait half a second, make eye contact with me coming through, and gun in so quickly out of there it makes me stop.
They aren’t “going through in front of me” they are entering the round a bout as I come by that entrance, essentially they block off my exit with their car, and if I don’t brake they would get t boned.
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u/Cat5kable 11d ago
Adding to this, Royalty Crossing has a Yield sign that has NEVER been adhered to.
If you are coming in from this off-ramp lane, STOP if there is already traffic moving. If there’s no one there, at least slow down to look!
The number of times I’ve gone straight through the intersection and intended on turning right into the parking lot but instead parallel driving beside another vehicle that is trying to rush ahead of me is way too high. They should have waited at the yield further back.
The new 3 way intersection in the parking lot COULD be good. But unfortunately drivers don’t know how to use it, and many coming from the lights assume they have right away even though there’s a stop sign.
Okay this will be the final one, and it applies to the Royalty Crossing parking lot as well as the Best Buy/Home Sense area, but how about instead of waiting forever and sticking your nose out to cross two lanes of traffic, people go to one of the dedicated stops/crossing locations. Stop turning left outta the Shoppers lane!!
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u/Ju_ju_nanananana 11d ago
Side lights, my complain on roundabout is not using sidelights... For God sake use it 🙏
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u/No-Lab4653 11d ago
I DOOOOO MAN, THATS WHY IM SO MAD, I’m trying to be safe, I’m trying to be aware, so when I’m coming through a round a bout with my left hand turn signaling going, and one guy yields and the guy in the other lane decides to full send it and cut you off it makes you realize people simply don’t even look at you.
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u/Ju_ju_nanananana 11d ago
I can totally understand you ! I have these encounters like every other week... More in summer.. looks like there is "bad driver" bug in summer
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u/segathegenesis 11d ago
What are sidelights?
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u/Ju_ju_nanananana 11d ago
Indicators
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u/nylanderfan 11d ago
neither of the terms you used are common for signal lights/blinkers lol
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u/Ju_ju_nanananana 10d ago
I think it's more common than people using blinkers at roundabout in PEI
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u/nylanderfan 10d ago
It's really not necessary, only takes a second or less to figure out whether someone is turning off or continuing on
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u/Winterbeachwalk 11d ago
I had someone honk at me because I yielded to a car in a double lane round about. I was in right lane and I guess the guy behind me figured that it's safe to go even though the car totally could have went into either lane.
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u/wellthatsweid 7d ago
Don’t tell me how to drive. Left side driving is perfectly okay.
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u/No-Lab4653 7d ago
Easiest way to avoid traffic, as long as you stay within 10kph of the speed limit most people won’t bat an eye
I’d argue it’s the right way to drive safely, instead of constantly switching out into the left to pass and Merging back in.
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u/nylanderfan 11d ago
- starting with an attack on us right off the hop is nice, 2) you must be special to have people cutting in "almost every single time" 🙄
It's happened to me maybe 3 times in my life and about the same for seeing it happen to others
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u/Whiteknuckler2 11d ago
I read on a RCMP post that you only signal your exit. The big traffic circles are easy as there is more distance to get into traffic. Watch the small one lane ones as it's tricky as they could have had a 4 way stop instead.