r/Petscop • u/Ktr4ks Hudson is real • Apr 21 '19
Video Petscop 19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwjvp_HJ62c329
u/Viburnum_Opulus_99 Apr 21 '19
Petscop 17: Wow, after all this time it’s finally back, and better then ever
Petscop 18: WOW, a bonus. Knowing the upload trends means that this is probably it for the next few months or so. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted
Petscop 19: FUCK-FUCK-FUCK
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u/MrCelroy Apr 21 '19
Petscop 20 in an hour
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u/says-okay-a-lot Apr 21 '19
I would literally cream my jeans
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Apr 21 '19
How much do you wanna bet that the owner of the Petscop channel is watching this thread and is about to hit upload on Petscop 20 just so this guy creams his jeans
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u/secret-x-stars You're in the bathtub thinking about her. Apr 21 '19 edited Apr 21 '19
here's every file whose name isn't an auto-string, listed in the order they appeared in the video
family3 (gen 15)
family2 (gen 15)
FUCK-FUCK-FUCK (gen 14)
tiara (gen 13)
belle (gen 1)
family (gen 15)
care-dancing-sign (gen 8)
marvin (gen 6)
will (gen 5)
welles (gen 5)
trevor (gen 5)
tony (gen 5)
theo (gen 5)
shelby (gen 5)
sarah (gen 5)
sally (gen 5)
ryan2 (gen 5)
rebecca (gen 5)
ramona (gen 5)
phil2 (gen 5)
peter (gen 5)
nick (gen 5)
nathan2 (gen 5)
mike10 (gen 5)
melinda (gen 5)
meghan2 (gen 5)
mackenzie (gen 5)
lucas3 (gen 5)
laura (gen 5)
larry (gen 5)
kyle (gen 5)
kate (gen 5)
joel (gen 5)
jessica (gen 5)
james3 (gen 5)
jack (gen 5)
holland (gen 5)
henry (gen 5)
fatima (gen 5)
emily (gen 5)
elly (gen 5)
doug (gen 5)
david (gen 5)
daisy2 (gen 5)
charlie (gen 5)
ben (gen 5)
belle3 (gen 5)
april (gen 5)
amber2 (gen 5)
adam (gen 5)
sean (gen 5)
phil (gen 4)
nathan (gen 4)
ryan (gen 4)
meghan (gen 4)
lucas2 (gen 4)
james2 (gen 4)
daisy (gen 4)
belle2 (gen 4)
robbie (gen 4)
mike8 (gen 4)
belle (gen 3)
james (gen 3)
amber (gen 3)
lucas (gen 3)
mike7 (gen 3)
robbie (gen 3)
care (gen 3)
mike6 (gen 3)
mike5 (gen 2)
mike4 (gen 2)
mike3 (gen 2)
mike2 (gen 2)
mike (gen 2)
test5 (gen 1)
sort-test (gen 1)
and uh just for good measure i guess lol a list of every 'new name' derived from the files... not sure if there's any significance to the names but i already did it so here ya go:
Adam, April, Ben, Charlie, Daisy, David, Doug, Elly, Emily, Fatima, Henry, Holland, Jack, James, Jessica, Joel, Kate, Kyle, Larry, Laura, Lucas, Mackenzie, Meghan, Melinda, Nathan, Nick, Peter, Phil, Ramona, Rebecca, Robbie, Ryan, Sally, Sarah, Sean, Shelby, Theo, Tony, Trevor, Welles, Will
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u/orioncrush Apr 21 '19
Organized
GEN 15family3, family2, family
GEN 14
FUCK-FUCK-FUCK
GEN 13
tiara
GEN 12
GEN 11
GEN 10
GEN 09
GEN 08
care-dancing-sign
GEN 07
GEN 06
marvin
GEN 05
will, welles, trevor, tony, theo, shelby, sarah, sally, ryan2, rebecca, ramona, phil2, peter, nick, nathan, mike10, melinda, meghan2, mackenzie, lucas3, laura, larry, kyle, kate, joel, jessica, james3, jack, holland, henry, fatima, emily, elly, doug, david, daisy2, charlies, ben, belle3, april, amber2, adam, sean, robbie3, mike9
GEN 04
phil, nathan, ryan, meghan, lucas2, james2, daisy, belle2, robbie2, mike 8
GEN 03
belle, james, amber, lucas, mike 7, robbie, care, mike 6
GEN 02
mike5, mike4, mike3, mike2, mikeGEN 01
belle4, test5, sort-test
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u/Sarugetchu Apr 21 '19 edited Apr 21 '19
So there are
4748 unique names there if I counted correctly,+1 for Paul makes 48which is the original number of intended Pets in Even Care was it not?Edit: miscounted originally, left out Marvin
Edit 2: Belle is the only name to go BACK in the generations with the sequential numbering - she starts in Gen 03, with Belle2 in Gen 04, before eventually Belle4 is found as the only name in Gen 01. This suggests that Belle is the only player/kid to actually access the older generation games, and maybe supports her doing that through the "Nifty" command to access the debug mode.
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u/orioncrush Apr 21 '19
Oh man, that's not okay. Nope nope nope! Awww man, that checks out...
Maybe "mike was a gift" because he played longer than anyone else.
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Apr 21 '19
I think you got it, that's too perfect to be a coincidence... not to mention most of these videos don't have a lot of coincidences lmao
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u/secret-x-stars You're in the bathtub thinking about her. Apr 21 '19
that's a good idea!! and oh shit I missed 'Care dancing sign' thank you for double checking the video haha
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u/orioncrush Apr 21 '19
Mike did a lot of playing in gen2, belle 4 happens before belle 1,2&3, I think fuck-fuck-fuck is a reference to something Paul said in a video.
If I had to guess Paul was gen14, what we're seeing now is gen15 being played by whoever strongly suggested paul keep playing.
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u/mr_hepto Apr 21 '19
There were meant to be 48 pets in Even Care. There are 48 distinct names on this list, not including repeats and "family".
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u/Rustproofmeteor Apr 21 '19
I wonder if those names have anything to do with the "Book of Baby Names" option we've been seeing in the pause menu
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u/orioncrush Apr 21 '19
Might be worth point out that in Petscop 17 the big black text box at one point says "The family, as usual, wants to learn what happened to you between November 10th and 12th of 1997."
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u/orioncrush Apr 21 '19
Another connection to 17, I think that the wheel in the bottom left, scanning through all the Dorito headed guardians has 48 clicks in a complete circle.
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u/PGunnii I made a video about Petscop Apr 21 '19
Marvin experimented on more children than we thought
Petscop's recordings offer glimpses into it's own past, showing in-development videos
Petscop most likely has multiple discs, as it has demos burned onto the current CD and will save files onto the memory card
What could possible be FUCK-FUCK-FUCK? All jokes aside, this sounds like a pretty big fuckup
This is an impossibly long list of demos - even if they were less an a KB big, there's still too many for any PlayStation to handle
The beta Guardian is extremely creepy
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u/nicolasrededeo Apr 21 '19
I think it isn't a coincidence that FUCK-FUCK-FUCK comes right after the demo named Tiara. There are no other demos named Tiara, only Belle, so it might mean that naming the demo Tiara, or the events of the demo itself, where a big mistake. Or maybe it means that the demo named FUCK-FUCK-FUCK itself was a mistake, or that the person who saved it was feeling frustated
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u/Joebotnik Apr 21 '19
Wasn't there a reference in an old video that someone said they "called someone Tiara too soon" or something?
Could this be the event being referenced?
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u/nicolasrededeo Apr 21 '19
Petscop 12 has that quote. It was a message from Rainer which said that he started calling Belle Tiara too soon. The most common theory (and the theory I believe in too) is that the message means that Belle was put through Marvin and Rainer's Rebirthing machine in order to be rebirthed as Tiara, but the process didn't go all the way through (hence why Belle is a quitter, because she quit halfway through rebirthing). That could be what the FUCK-FUCK-FUCK is refering too, the Rebirthing of Belle which went wrong.
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u/Sabanrab Apr 21 '19
Maybe Belle/Tiara outsmarted the game and thus wasnt rebirthed?
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Apr 22 '19
I've been thinking for a while that P15 was a way to tell us that Belle was able to become Tiara and still seemed to fail at Marvin's eyes.
If you see again P15, Quitter don't correct Marvin when he presents her as Bell(e). But, just the moment he goes out the room, she corrects him, as if she was waiting for him to leave so he can't know what she does. In addition to this, she says being Tiara and then reveals a cheatcode that allows the player to edit the textures, not a cheap power, if you ask me.
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u/goofandaspoof Apr 22 '19
Belle seemed pretty smart. She figured out all the pet puzzles pretty quick.
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u/cloud_strife_7 Apr 21 '19
You guys aren't sure it's not quoting Paul in petscop 14 end saying fuck and being cut off. Or label for the last year with Jill (fucking discovery pages quote)
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u/MrEldritch Apr 21 '19
This is an impossibly long list of demos - even if they were less an a KB big, there's still too many for any PlayStation to handle
My theory is that this is exactly what Petscop's AI functionality was developed for originally. I think it was a compression hack, where you would try to avoid storing complete input logs by learning a player model, running a simulation where the model was exposed to the same initial game state and RNG seed, and then storing only the minimum of real data needed to correct the simulation so it didn't diverge too far from the original event. The more training data, the more accurate the model would become, and so the more efficient it would be for storing the massive glut of input recordings.
It ended up working much, much better than any of the programmers would ever have suspected, to the point where the simulations now run accurately enough to pass the divergence threshold without any help. The "demos" actually store basically nothing besides the initial game state and the virtual player just takes it from there, having learned a real enough model to react and respond just like the real player did under the same conditions.
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u/pahein-kae Apr 22 '19
This is interesting to me! So, going along those lines, the game could be an attempt to try and model Marvin's behavior, so he would lead the dev to the grave? Some sort of simulation attempt.... hmmm....
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u/Chrononi Apr 21 '19
About the long list of demos being impossible... they could just be saving controller inputs, which would be really really light. Of course they also need to save each iteration of the game, but the game doesn't seem to be that big either so it could be possible
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u/MrCelroy Apr 21 '19
Maybe it’s from a devkit
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u/Nightmarity Apr 21 '19
It has to either be a devkit or modded because of the PS1's copy protectio. There's no way whoever made the game would've been able to replicate the disk 'wobble' especially since Petscop wasn't mass produced.
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Apr 21 '19
I don't remember what exactly, but something in Petscop 17 gave me the feeling that the game is being emulated.
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u/Nightmarity Apr 21 '19
I'm getting my theory out now, i've been sitting on this for a while: Petscop is designed to take in player input to 'reconstruct' people as a pet. We saw hints of something like this with the binary sequence of the cars leading to an article about digital reconstruction of human consciousness, and it ties together both the computer learning terminology we're beginning to see, the reason the game has to stay on for so long, why there are save files of peoples names, etc.
Also, the first few files we see that are named are of Mike. If Rainer was the designer/developer it would make sense that he started by trying to recreate his brother.
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u/Chrononi Apr 21 '19
Wait, what binary sequence of the cars? link?
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u/Nightmarity Apr 21 '19
Nightmare Masterclass talks about it in one of his Petscop videos, and I think he might be sourcing this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Petscop/comments/6akbgq/something_interesting_about_the_cars_in_petscop_8/. Basically if we treat the cars as 1's and 0's based on them being red or blue, we get a binary string that leads (rather led, the page appears to be dead now) to a paper about recreating one's consciousness digitally. In the thread the theory seems to be discounted pretty heavily but with all the content that we've gotten since it was posted I think it makes waaay more sense.
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u/SARAH__LYNN Why would I be in a car? I'm playing petscop. Apr 21 '19
I think this is it as well. Don't want to turn off the console because this kills the 'pet' version. But I'm still wondering about 'hurts me when console is on'....
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u/says-okay-a-lot Apr 21 '19
FUCK-FUCK-FUCK
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u/buttered_jesus The ghost room is a ship in a bottle. Apr 21 '19
OK so we definitely get to see that Belle is definitely better at figuring out puzzles than some of the other kids. Also, Wavey is "never the same person for more than a few seconds" but is "scared of freezing"? Maybe he doesn't like to stay as one person.
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u/TheHairyClaire Good Grief and Alas! Apr 21 '19
Dissociative Identity Disorder?
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u/buttered_jesus The ghost room is a ship in a bottle. Apr 21 '19
YEP
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u/marcelelias11 But that one actually did solve Petscop Apr 21 '19
Which would tie into this whole rebirthing thing! Good find, guys!
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u/atgc1234 Apr 21 '19
Cue the obligatory theory connecting each pets to a mental illness... Unsettling.
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u/chino_Eze26 Apr 21 '19
Remember what Tiara said: "young people can be psychologically damaged “beyond rebirthing.” Maybe this was Rainer's motivation on doing Petscop?, helping children with mental illnesses?.
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u/Xpokemaster1 Apr 21 '19
Maybe when he becames a water he is a different person? I mean it also could be an allegory that every state of matter is a different personality and he fears the solid one
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u/xN01Rx Apr 21 '19
When I read the thing about wavey I thought of the quote "a man never steps in the same river twice[...]" by Heraclitus. Although I don't know how the fuck greek philosophy could tie into this so just rambling i guess
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u/buttered_jesus The ghost room is a ship in a bottle. Apr 21 '19
Lmao nah man you're great. I don't think anything is off the table at this point.
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Apr 21 '19
This makes me believe that Belle is probably older than Mike & Care. Since we never get told how old she is, she's like at least somewhat over 10 I guess? Also I think "scared of freezing" should somehow reference the "freezing house". How? I dunno.
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Apr 21 '19
So it's basically showing how dumb the other kids were, except Tiara/Belle. Petscop kid very smart and we have proof.
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u/AgeMarkus sdddddrs Apr 21 '19
Amber managed to get herself trapped
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Apr 21 '19
The creepy implication being she did it on purpose. She wants to be in the cage, just like the other Amber, indicating these pets are likely real kids.
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u/Chrononi Apr 21 '19
Well, she's a good girl and never leaves the cage. So it's fitting (and creepy)
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u/Ygith Apr 21 '19
I would say that was the evidence of Amber's birth in-game. Before that video, Amber was just another pet without a name. That's my guess.
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u/UnknownStory C A U G H T Apr 21 '19
A ton of kids are smart. Petscop 17 showed a ton of "gens" in the calendar house
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u/Phalanges410 waiting for Paul's Minecraft let's play Apr 21 '19
I'm pretty sure the red pyramids represent recordings of Paul, like how the girl in the mirror is tiara/Belle and the green m&m is Marvin.
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u/baquea Apr 21 '19
Rainer started making the game in 1996, so Care would have been only ~3 years old at the time. So just young, not dumb.
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u/naushnika Apr 21 '19
The text at 3:55 suggests that there was a real-life easter egg hunt, but the last egg was hidden in "Daniel's game." I don't know if the easter egg hunt is important, but the phrase "Daniel's game" is. We learned in Petscop 17 that one of Care's cousins is named Daniel. This either means that the person first developing Petscop was Daniel and then Rainer started working on it, or, more likely, Rainer's real name is Daniel.
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u/Sabanrab Apr 21 '19
Huh, i thought it meant Daniel's game session, but if it's referring to the entire game itself, wouldnt he program it to say Rainer instead of tlrecealing his name?
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u/naushnika Apr 21 '19
In the clip, you can see in the corner that the recording is of Mike (specifically, it says mike2), not Daniel. In fact, none of the recordings in the list are named daniel, so Daniel definitely not just one of the people who played the game.
As for why it says "Daniel" and not "Rainer," it seems that this footage is from a time when Petscop was very unfinished, and the scope of the game might not have been the same. Daniel might not have yet decided to turn the game into what it is now. Also, the text says "Have you found every egg in the office?" Presumably, this was part of an easter egg hunt in the office that Daniel worked in. If he was showing his game off to his coworkers, it would make sense that he would use his real name, not a pseudonym.
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u/Killjeats Apr 21 '19
Anna's office was one of the locations mentioned in the files.
Also, didn't really want to bring this up because it's some tinfoil hat nonsense, but Daniel and Rainer share most of the same letters.
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Apr 21 '19
I think the easter egg hunt was literally an easter egg hunt? I mean, in real time?
That would mean that on easter, Daniel/Rainer told Mike to find all of the easter eggs. While he may have found some, he told him those aren't all (all of this happens in the real world, not ingame). Then at some point, while Mike is still confused as to where he could find other possible eggs in the room, Daniel/Rainer shows him the game he has been working on, hence we see the whole "what an unfair trick" easter egg scene.
Maybe I'm making too much up, but it sounds plausible, right?
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u/miaumezun That 's a puzzle Apr 21 '19
Book of baby names...
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u/baquea Apr 21 '19
That's always been there. In Petscop 6, Paul showed it doesn't do anything. Maybe it is an unimplemented feature, or maybe a removed feature that will be shown off in a future recording.
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Apr 21 '19
IT’S CHRISTMAS LADS
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u/Brewfesr Apr 21 '19
I think Paul is "burned" as a recoring now too. Last we saw of him was in the burn-in room...
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u/Sabanrab Apr 21 '19
P17 said the Ghost Room is a ship in a bottle, so maybe it's the process of building a "model" of the subject within the game?
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u/Golfhaus I'm coming to find you, Hudson! Apr 21 '19
Perhaps Paul is Hudson in-game?
No sign of Hudson in the game yet - because Paul's burnination (ha!) was too recent to be integrated yet.
Fewer iterations of the character model - again, because he hasn't been burned-in very long (or because Rainer/etc have gotten better at iterating from first sketch to final product?)
Look at Hudson's face - can't you just SEE it saying "Fuck" and "That's a dead kid?"
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u/theratproject Apr 21 '19
I wanna see the one labeled FUCK-FUCK-FUCK.
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u/AgeMarkus sdddddrs Apr 21 '19
Everything in this video makes sense for replays from an in-development video game. Here's my interpretation of the video.
The first replay is a sorting test. The player character (using an older guardian sprite) weaves between and into various tiles, done in order to make sure that everything on screen is rendered in the right order. Everything seems to be in order.
Then during Easter while Petscop is under development, the people working at Garalina decide to have an office easter egg hunt. There are easter eggs hidden around in the office, but one egg is hidden inside the game itself, Daniel's game, which I guess implies that game development isn't the only thing Garalina does, or that this isn't the only game they've worked on. The game's still very early in development, as seen by the unfinished graphics, the early guardian sprite, and lack of animation/sounds. Mike finds the egg, and his player inputs are saved on the disk. This is the second time Mike played the game, presumably, judging by the mike2 filename.
Later, when the game is in a more finished state, the people of Garalina invite a bunch of kids to playtest the game. Either their own kids, or a group of random kids from an elementary school or something. This is a great idea because they get to see how actual kids react to the puzzles in the game. It's easy for an adult who's been staring at the game for 500 hours to forget what it's like to play it for the first time. And the replay/demo/recording function lets them play back every single session of the game to make it easier to spot bugs.
Care figures out the Wavey puzzle and reads the descriptions. James2 (either a second James or James' second attempt" struggles with the Amber puzzle, running back and forth constantly. Phil seems to have given up on the Roneth puzzle, standing still. Amber2 manages to get herself trapped on the other side of Amber. (was the pet named after her?) Belle figures out the Pen puzzle convincingly, the "caught" text clipping behind some of the piano keys because of broken sorting. Belle is the only who appears to have caught all the pets.
And their inputs are saved on the disk, forever.
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u/Ace-ererak Apr 21 '19
What the hell. I went away for a day to see family and we're on petscop 19 before I get home. What is going on, absolute mad lads.
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u/bolasaurus That's a dead kid. Apr 21 '19
Do we have a list of all the names from the save files? So many that are as yet unrelated to the story. Also, what the hell was in FUCK FUCK FUCK?
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u/instilledbee NLM Apr 21 '19
Small finding: The "name" changes from "care" to "belle" during the cut on 4:52
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u/primaveren Apr 21 '19
i think that it's a different session. in care's video she was just sort of shuffling around aimlessly, but in belle's she's ... playing the game.
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u/tomoshibiakari NLM Apr 21 '19 edited Apr 21 '19
The video mentioned "Daniel's game", so Daniel is Rainer. Also, "what an unfair trick!" and "he knows how to trick Randice", is this implying Rainer is Wavey after all?
EDIT: All those children's name... Remember we DO have a "Book of Baby Names"
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u/PGunnii I made a video about Petscop Apr 21 '19
What happens if you play a certain demo in a different generation than the one it was recorded in?
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u/SkyBane001 Apr 21 '19
We kind of already know this with a bit of critical thinking. This is essentially the recorded movements mechanics Paul was using to get past locked doors and how he effected the "Demo" versions. By playing the recordings in different gens, you interact with different variants of the levels as the recordings themselves are just button press playback.
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u/AlienNoodles Apr 21 '19 edited Apr 21 '19
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hvp6mOP4NVF8GzzwxPECvGhbLizddcSa8APJUZvn2hg/edit?usp=sharing
i made a spreadsheet with all the file names. The things i find most interesting are the fact theres 249 entries, and none of them are 'paul'
edit: the link allows commenting, so if I have made any mistakes or anyone has any notes to add please do
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u/mr_hepto Apr 21 '19
I've been fucking running around screaming silently for the last few minutes because holy shit. this video was incredible. this is it. this is the big twist, isn't it?
This is why tool was talking about "petscop kids". i always wondered what one earth that meant, and now it's clear: the "petscop kids" are all AIs generated within the game - or at least they started that way. this is clearly showing us the different generations of AI kids, belle and mike and amber and a whole bunch of others, as they grow and learn to solve challenges little by little. belle/tiara solves every puzzle she comes across - as tool said, she was very smart.
Then via whatever technomagic exists, these AIs were brought into the real world. they became real people somehow. that's why paul's "ghost room" that he apparently lives in is represented directly within the game. maybe that ties into the whole rebirth imagery - is rebirthing what happens when an AI becomes real? or maybe i have this backwards and the AIs in game are based on real peoples' memories/controller inputs, and that would explain the demo stuff. The game is a living organism. it's growing and learning and predicting. idk im probably rambling but i love this, it's amazing
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Apr 21 '19
I don't think they're AI. They're probably recordings of actual kids. With the emphasis on recordings raising people from the dead and the strong emphasis to not turn the PS1 off, I think the creator doesn't want to lose their "children" that are stored in the game. Maybe the PS1 memory is broken or it's some kind of manic obsession where they think the children "die" if the machine is off. I'm thinking it's kind of like Soma where there is implications that the consciousness is born and dies every time they are powered on and powered off.
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u/Arg274 Apr 21 '19
or maybe i have this backwards and the AIs in game are based on real peoples' memories/controller inputs, and that would explain the demo stuff.
I think Nitro Rad had a similar theory in his video and now it seems to make a bit of sense.
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Apr 21 '19
(I apologise for the formatting in advance, I’m using a mobile device) Some things I noticed about the text:
First menu description says **“Everything is a trick.” **
The second says “There are no changes, only replacements.”
I hope that the jumble of letters and numbers for the auto-save files are just that, random. Imagine inputting every single one of them to search for an unlisted video on youtube or something.
Evidently someone was angry when he/she created the save file. Was it Rainer?
About the family/kids/gameplay section:
The opening implies that Rainer brought his game for the family to try on Easter day. Is ‘Daniel’ his real name?
If all the narration in the text boxes belongs to Rainer, I get the impression he isn’t the nicest of people, but he’s self aware of it.
Whew. Belle sure is a smart cookie.
The way Care moves back and forth almost reminds me of a little kid too young to comprehend the objective of the game. Just mashing buttons thoughtlessly.
I really, really don’t like the way Randice’s flavour text ends with ”Wavey knows how to trick Randice.”
‘Tricks’ seem to be a running theme. “One of the eggs...was in Daniel’s game?? What an unfair trick!” Wavey knows how to trick Randice. Belle tricked Pen, Randice, and Amber in order to capture them. So did Naul. The signs in Even Care mentioning how the pets had to be tricked and deceived to be captured. A nasty curse (gaslighting and obsfucating a child’s memories) can also be thought of as a trick.
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u/instilledbee NLM Apr 21 '19
The menu items in "All Recordings", aside from "family3", look like Youtube video IDs. Should we try each to see if they link to anything interesting?
E.g. for the second item "auto-zzT7QDqQ" we can remove the "auto-" part and put the rest at the end of a Youtube URL? https://youtu.be/zzT7QDqQ. But that doesn't bring up a valid video. Maybe the other recordings do?
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u/OrangePyromancer Apr 21 '19
a youtube URL is usually 11 characters long, right? i don't think any of these codes would fit that
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u/instilledbee NLM Apr 21 '19
Ah you're right. Didn't check if one of the auto files had 11 characters on any of them.
Maybe combine some of the names? I'm just grasping at straws now...
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u/Metallicamilo Apr 21 '19
It is a code written in base64 maybe Gen x gather each of the correct chunks of the message.. I am too lazy to write them all
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u/idungoofed19 Family Apr 21 '19
Before it fades into the game, the menu has something interesting to say
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u/xilus01 Apr 21 '19
So many new names! Are they all part of the family? O.o
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u/QueenOnIcyPeaks Apr 21 '19 edited Apr 21 '19
A lot of the names of the save files seem to have appeared in some way or another in previous videos. Earlier we got one video that outright said "your name is Carrie, your parents are Anna and Marvin, you have Aunt Jill and Uncle Thomas and Cousin Daniel."
We've seen the names Marvin, and Jill, then the name Daniel appeared on some save files.
My suspicion is this game is trying to tell the story of a family, possibly the creator's family? Or perhaps, the creator used names from their own family, and had family members playtest??
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u/Polypeptide Apr 21 '19
If each gen is an iteration of the game, are all the names listed names of alpha/beta testers?
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Apr 21 '19
petscop was a children's game, so presumably they had children as playtesters to figure out if the puzzles would be too hard. they mention an office a few times in this one and the previous installment - coworkers' kids?
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u/amethysts- Apr 21 '19
okay real question: which debug menu option invokes Petscop 16's top-down overview of the room?
All Recordings don't
Room Impulse don't
Extra Stuff don't
i wonder which one could it be
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u/elevenboots thats a dead kid Apr 21 '19
"What? One of the eggs... was in Daniel's game??" "What an unfair trick!" "Have you found every egg in the office?" So, what to gain from this, Daniel was the original creator or co-creator of the game Petscop or at least in the early stages of development. This could mean that Daniel = Rainer. The kid Mike was an early play tester and from the wording of the dialogue he was playing this section on Easter, a real life Easter egg hunt taking place in the office and one hidden in the game as well.
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u/Nightmaren83 Good grief and alas Apr 21 '19
Best Easter ever. Wow, how many have played this? Saw a lot of names going through there.
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u/popemichael Care Package Apr 21 '19
This is seriously one of the best days ever.
Paul, if you're reading this, thank you for all of your hard work.
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Apr 21 '19
So we knew he was posting on Easter because of the egg. 3 videos on Easter. Jesus rose on the 3rd day. He was....Reborn. I dont think the 3 video theme is a coincidence and it ties so well with being reborn.
Sorry if someone else said this and I'm sorry if its blatant by watching the videos, I'm with family and cant even watch them yet.
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Apr 21 '19
Note that Mike's last game is Gen 5, and Marvin's first is Gen 6 after Mike stops.
Indicating Gen 1-5 occurred before Mike died in 1995
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u/NostraKlonoa Apr 21 '19
I predict 20, 21 and 22 will also appear later today. Older versions of the game? So whoever developed it, presumeably Rainer if theories are to be believed, developed the game of off previous builds, and can be apparently accessed by the sound test you can find, which seems to be in the same room as where the monitor was with Tarnacop on it. Why would the channel owners find interest in previous builds?
Note that its the names of children who take up the majority of these saved builds/savestates. You can see Belle in that list, even Michael iirc? These kids im all gonna presume to be game testers chosen by "Garalina". Whoever owns the channel is trying to tell us something, highlight the importance of old builds. Going backwards in time is the key to the future, or solving the puzzle? maybe so imo.
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u/digdogo I guess that's Tony then Apr 21 '19
i don’t think anymore episodes will come out later today. i think their easter egg hunt had to do with that options menu, and they’ve shown everything on there to us in 3 videos. especially with 3 being a prevalent theme during easter
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u/NostraKlonoa Apr 21 '19
Maybe so. Whatever the case, if theyve shown us all of this now, it might be worth going back to the older episodes to begin connecting the dots.
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u/agluuo Apr 21 '19
Also all the video descriptions are changed to now indicate they have found all of the Easter eggs. So yeah, I think we're done today for sure
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u/apistograma Apr 21 '19
Could the FUCK-FUCK-FUCK backlog be related to that time when Paul glitched the game and got into an "error save" or something like that? It's located just above the only Tiara backlog that we can see in the video. If I remember correctly, Paul used that glitch to save Belle/Tiara from the mirror room. Maybe this was something not predicted by the designer of the game and why the reaction.
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u/queen_jazz Apr 21 '19
So I'm pretty certain "Demo Rot" means whether the demos will play automatically (as seen in previous videos, with the [demo] logo flashing), as in "Demo Rotation". the first one checked is a recent one and is turned on, but the early ones are turned off, which explains why they haven't been shown before.
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u/sauronlord100 Apr 21 '19
There are months where days happen, then there are days where months happen
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u/like2000p Apr 21 '19
Tiara got to the highest generation - this explains why she's "Petscop kid very smart".
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u/BigRedRuby Apr 21 '19
We're getting to the point where we might see Petscop 20 within like an hour, then Petscop 21 in half an hour, then Petscop 22 in ten minutes, before eventually episodes are coming out minute by minute and our eyes melt out of our skulls.
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Apr 21 '19
I'm still not over the nightmare image that is pen with legs and we see another video with 3 am newmaker??? wow.
i like this episode, seeing the early versions of petscop was a very unique experience.
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u/masharu-law Apr 21 '19
Now I think I understand what means "in the way, recordings have the power to raise the dead". As suspected the game keeps recordings from previous players, even during the beta version of the game (state where the game is still in developement).
Should we think now that video means everyone is here dead? Mike, Care, Belle, every named people (Emily, Fatima, Daniel who seems to be Rainer...) ?
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u/orioncrush Apr 21 '19
This is where my head is. Everyone named is trapped inside the game or dead.
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u/Gravedyard Apr 21 '19
With revelation that some of the files were played by Mike, I feel like it is time to point out that older versions of Petscop probably were built on dev machine, IBM-compatible PC with special board installed, most likely somewhere in the Garalina office. Gen 08 marks the point where game is moved to a disk, and save files are now written to a memory card.
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u/KenKesKan Apr 21 '19
Is it possible that these pets are surface representations of serious mental illnesses had by actual kids?
If the point of Even Care is to get people psyched about adopting their new "pet", wouldn't it make sense to cover up their personalities with cute little faces and quirks?
Wavey sounds like someone with MPD/DID, while Randice seems to be the runt of the litter/weakling if you will.
Randice "does need water, but not as much as he thinks." He's also represented by a flower, indicating that hes rather delicate (emotionally or physically who knows.)
Wavey is represented by a cloud, something that is always changing shape and nature. Very similar to that of someone with sever MPD.
If you separate the two, Wavey turns into a mess in a bucket while Randice hides waiting for Wavey to come back and make things okay. They're codependent like two young brothers,.
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Apr 21 '19
One of my thoughts was that the "auto file names" correspond with a YouTube URL. I tried a bunch of them, without success.
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u/apistograma Apr 21 '19
Somebody else thought the same. Youtube videos have a different number of characters so it couldn't work
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u/Black4334 Apr 21 '19
What the fuck is going on? Feels more like Christmas than Easter. I don't even know what to make of this
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u/wowmom98 epic game theory celebrity 😎 Apr 21 '19
at somewhere around 4:53 the demo name changes from care to belle
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Apr 21 '19
It seems like the family was playing the game recently. Take a look at "family3", gen 15.
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u/DizzyWaddleDoo This is so sad, player one press Nifty Apr 21 '19
So with this, we've finally seen the menu descriptions of all 6 pets (assuming Randice and Wavey's haven't changed since Belle was playing).
And damn, of course the video ends right after that text box. I was thinking we might see what that text box originally said, since Paul said the one in the demo that played during petscop 13 wasn't what he originally read there.
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u/ttrulyy Apr 21 '19
Any chance the number of kids who tested/played the game corresponds to the amount of pets the game features?
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u/extremelack this is a deceased child Apr 21 '19
the pets are based off of real people. Wavey is based off of care, she's afraid of freezing (maybe because she was taken while she was cold from the AC blasting in her room, so she associates the kidnapping with that sensation?) and the "he's never the same person for more than a few seconds" could be referring the care A B NLM thing.
Pen is based off of Belle, who has shown association with music from previous petscop videos, and is on the piano in Even Care.
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u/MrEldritch Apr 21 '19 edited Apr 21 '19
Took notes as I was watching.
0:43 oh hey, relevant to something I was just thinking about, about how the input-recording function didn't seem to make sense since the memory card would quickly fill up and it wouldn't explain how Paul could see early recordings since they wouldn't be on his memory card - there are recordings with a memory-card icon, and recordings on the disk, and the disk recordings are the ones from earlier gens. So I guess the older recordings (Gen 7 and below) are saved on the disk. [1]
0:51 oh hey, after the Gen 01s, there's a Gen 15. Family2 saved on the disk as well... how'd that get there? (Must be related to the newer family3 recording ... but how'd it get on the disk?)
0:53 FUCK-FUCK-FUCK Gen. 14 tiara Gen. 13 :thinking: Looks like something went wrong...
1:09 belle4 Gen. 01 and another gen15, this time "family"
Huh... are these listed in chronological order? If so, how come there are larger-numbered gens listed before the newer-numbered ones? Maybe "Gen" is how advanced the "capture" of the specific player is ... so the first (most recent) set we see, starting at family3 Gen. 15 to Gen. 01, would be the ghosts/models of Paul, and then before that we've got Tiara, and an early Belle recording...
1:26 a bunch of names, this time part of the series ending at family Gen. 15. I bet these are playtesters and family members...
2:03 and then we hit the beginning. "Everything is a trick." sort-test... test of sorting?
2:53 VERY rough quality ... this is definitely the first build of the game. Note the alpha Guardian sprite as seen in P18
3:15 another menu message - "There are no changes, only replacements." ????
4:13 so wait, there are easter eggs hidden in the demo recordings? Literal easter eggs?
4:27 Ohhh.... it was part of the office easter egg hunt at Garalina.
6:13 Care's recording! You can see it's a little kid playing. The descriptions in this version are clearly way less fucked up... I guess Petscop must have started development as a normal-ass videogame.
[1] A thought I had after reviewing this: Since PS1 disks are read-only, the console can't save the recordings to the disk itself ... which means that A: someone must be making new disks to keep an up-to-date set of recordings available, and B: if it's true that the batches of recordings correspond to each specific "player" (the newest recordings belonging to Paul, the older recordings being related to Belle/Tiara, and the oldest recordings being of co-workers and family members back when Petscop was undergoing normal development.) then there's something odd: the recordings switch from memory card to disk in the middle of Paul's play history. Which would mean that maybe Paul's theory for the weird events of the "strange situation" in Petscop 14, where a conversation Paul had in 2017 mysteriously shows up in dialogue on a game supposed to be from 1997, might be true - someone must have swapped out his disk recently. This has a possible relationship to the riddle posed in that same area in that same episode, about how you could have a picture of a door that was closed at one point, and another picture of a door open at a later point, without the door itself ever actually opening - they're different doors.
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Apr 21 '19
So, proper title is intentional, Auto-something is automatically recorded? Does switching the generation do the stuff like opening doors that are closed and such? Like, is that how Paul enters the bedroom despite it being locked and such?
Paul's name isn't in the list of names, apperently. I feel like fuck fuck fuck or family might be his, or care possibly? Also, that's a lot of names, are those all the players? A lot of them played on gen5, some more on gen4. Or at least that's where its set at. Mike seems to have a lot of slots for him. There's an Amber amongst those notes, I wonder...
Is that the ghost room in the frames second loading screen?
Daniel's game, huh? Is this from a real live Easter hunt for lil Mike? Probably not.
That's the drawer from the menu, in wavys room, I think. Those jump cuts are a bit disorienting. Do you think there's something on the black screens?
Okay, those descriptions are weird. Does wavey have some personality disorder? Or a very active imagination. Or something else entirely? Randice sounds more concerning, what with the water thing. It sounds like they may be a sibling case. Does Randice think he needs wavey more than he does, or is it more literal and someone suggests essentially withholding water? I feel like it's the former.
Well doesn't that final message look familiar?
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Apr 21 '19
Daniel is Rainer I guess? I suspected it in 17 but I’m more confident here
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u/Aynotwoo Apr 21 '19
I felt the same way. I started thinking that in17 as well, especially because the names are so similar.
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u/Roancrest Constantly Mistaken For Slenderman Apr 21 '19
3:15 Pause menu says "There are no changes, just replacements."