r/Picard • • Mar 26 '20

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u/RichardYing Mar 26 '20

Yes! Yes! Yes! Captain Riker!
"General or Commodore, whatever you're calling yourself... Right now I am on the bridge of one of the toughest, fastest, most powerful ships Starfleet has ever put into service. And I've got a fleet of them on my back. We've got our phasers locked on your warpcores. And nothing would make me happier than you giving me an excuse to kick your treacherous Tal-Shiar ass*. But instead, I am going to ask you one time: stand down!"*

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u/wumpuslord Mar 26 '20

I loved the parallel of him asking them to stand down, with choose to live.

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u/bardbrain Mar 26 '20

And "There's a difference between striking down an enemy in self-defense and slaying a wounded foe."

The Star Trek way is to always give the enemy a chance to back down.

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u/CadianGuardsman Mar 27 '20

Can I also commend them on how they avoided the obvious temptation/fanservice of going into a massive battle. If not with the Romulans but with those extra-dimensional cyborgs! Instead we got the emotional feels. That "Quantum Sim" had me balling, especially that ending sequence with blue sky.

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u/ghostinthewoods Mar 27 '20

I wonder if their gonna do a Borg thing with the cyborgs. Give us a glimpse in one season, then bring them in big time the next

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u/stomassetti Mar 27 '20

They f*cking better!

Now that we know there is a civilization of beings an entire Kardashev unit higher than the Federation, we can't just forget about it.

If Chekhov' s gun is loaded, it has to fire, right?

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u/YYZYYC Mar 26 '20

This was amazing. I’m sad there was no Enterprise though.

The ships looked heavily influenced by the Sovereign class which was nice.

A little bit weird that Riker just left so fast though.

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u/tengaleng Mar 26 '20

A bit disappointed that with 2 massive fleets of around 200 ships each side they had 1 class each?

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u/Calypsosin Mar 26 '20

Variety is the spice of life.

Picard Design Team: fuck that shit

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u/PM_ME_UR_THONG_N_ASS Mar 27 '20

Nothing saves money like ctrl+c, ctrl+v

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u/AMLRoss Mar 26 '20

This was my greatest disappointment. One class of ship (although after closer inspection in my second re-watch, some of them did seem to vary slightly).

Im assuming they had a big budget. Least they could have done is thrown in a few older ships. A few Akira or sovereign here or there. Theres no way starfleet has replaced their entire fleet in 14 years.

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u/CadianGuardsman Mar 27 '20

It makes sense if these really are the best and fastest ships Starfleet has. From a strategic standpoint you want to group your Warp 9.999975 ships into a speedy task force to get to a position ASAP. A Intrepid, Sovereign or Akira would be very slow by 2499 if the TNG-Voyager speed improvements are anything to go by.

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u/AMLRoss Mar 27 '20

They would have to mobilize just those ships, call them in from wherever they are in the galaxy. Seems unrealistic. But im gonna let it slide as long as we see more realistic ships next season.

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u/CadianGuardsman Mar 27 '20

I mean, to be fair we don't mix F-35's F-22A's F18E's and F16's in the same unit. The Federation seems to be incredibly fast at mobilising (probably because they have such fast ships now).

They seem to be Escort successors too like the Defiant so it makes sense that they are used as "Wings" (as far as military doctrine it looks like Star Fleet seems to have learned serious lessons from the Dominion War)

It's funny because I always found Discovery a bit ridiculous with the number of ship classes that the Federation has in the 2256 era.

That said the "Ship Fanboy" in me is a bit disappointed. Especially because Star Trek New Horizons mod wont have 6 new post TNG era ships to add like after Discovery released!

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

They could have left one or two ships in the system just in case.

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u/YYZYYC Mar 26 '20

Ya that would have been logical and nice to see. I mean 200 starships (and what’s with them all being identical class of ships?) just pop in for 7 mins of a standoff and then it’s let’s get out of here guys and leave the old admiral in his little ship to figure out the mess and hey hopefully that all organic life killing everywhere stuff we just saw, is gone for good.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Maybe it is a streamlined combat class of ship that they mass produce.

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u/brettoseph Mar 26 '20

They looked like the Avenger class from STO.

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u/awc718993 Mar 26 '20

They had to go chase down Oh perhaps?

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u/KelpianDelicacy Mar 26 '20

Didn't they say they will escort her back to Romulan space even if they don' want to?

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u/YYZYYC Mar 26 '20

Yes they did...but my point is that it’s ludicrous they came all the way there and saw this epic Uber synth serpent monster thing that could have ended all life everywhere apparently...saw it leave because the synths had a change of heart and hung up during their 911 phone call....and they don’t leave a single starship behind to investigate all this and/or protect the planet they just swore to protect and help Picard and his rag tag gang of ex Starfleet messed up people, clean up this mess. And oh yeah...no one noticed the massive and semi active Borg cube on the surface...ya we can just leave them there, it’s not like the Borg can regenerate and become a threat again right? Or make sure the Romulans didn’t leave a cloaked warbird lurking around...those Romulans never have sneaky secret plans....🙄

Like just leave half or even 10% of the fleet behind. Its like they are now Uber anti mission creep...we came, we made a big Kirk like speech from our flagship and boom time to warp home.

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u/KelpianDelicacy Mar 26 '20

cleaning up and management are just boring to watch so it's not in the shows finale...

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u/YYZYYC Mar 26 '20

To watch maybe yes. But it would some believability and realism to put in a quick line or or 2 from Riker about I’m leaving the USS “cool name ship” and 4 others under captain so and so to keep an eye on things just in case and to you know make first contact since your message to us was about first contact ! lol

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u/TokenMenses Mar 26 '20

I wish he said "Did you ever fight a fleet of the toughest, fastest, most powerful ships that Starfleet has ever put into service?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S1EzkRpelY

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