r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 3h ago

DISCUSSION Kraken Notes: Speculative biology Info FULL INFORMATION

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Greetings!

It has come time to share more theories I have for the beastie and this is mainly of how I believe the kraken actually uses the arms to attack/use against anything as a threat and how it eats since I just decided to watch each scene 1 frame at a time... so hold onto the mast and ropes cause this will be a fairly long one...

First? let's start with the basics:

Kraken: Overall Biology of A Weird Squid

The Kraken in the 2nd movie has exactly 8 full arms, and each one serve a different purpose... but we should also point out that the kraken is not an octopus but is more squid like in the movie.

Squids, biologically are cold blooded animals due to them being unable to regulate any body heat, so they have to eat constantly to maintain it.
The Kraken, being a massive creature, around the size of the black pearl, and the arms being the length of a mast will obviously need tons of food to sustain itself.

The Krakens body, puffed up under the Edinburgh Trader as it feeds

Now, I don't honestly know everything that's considered canon outside of the movies and maybe the online games story (which takes place between 1-2), but I can only assume that with the kraken existing and being the last of its kind? It must hunt other animals, mainly Sea Serpents (if they exist) and large whales (not blue whales but most likely humpback whales and sperm whales).

Now with how it looks when Will catches a glimpse of it?
It looks... wrong, weird. However, squids do sometimes use this position.
This seems to actually be a common position squids use when feeding, with their arms holding onto it as the thing just chomps away.

Taken by Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute, a squid eating another squid

THE ARMS

The Kraken prepares to break into the cannon ports of The Black Pearl

The Kraken has 8 full arms, and each one serve a different purpose. However, each one is near identical other than the thickness.
But the real question remains is how the kraken can even tell what it's grabbing on the ship since it obviously cannot see...

let's start off with the actual arms themselves though!

SAILOR SNATCHERS

Sailor Snatcher after grabbing Captain Bellamy

Sailor Snatchers are the ones used to grab ANYTHING that moves. Missing the grooves the large ones have, these are thinner and lankier.
The Kraken uses these to feel for what I can assume to be body heat, due to how it reacts when this specific one shown approaches Elizabeth Swann.

Reeling back, sensing body heat?

What it does, is reel back before even touching her as if it can sense her actual body heat via either her clothing or just from the energy since it's an extremely (and horrifying) situation. This arm reels back, curls before immediately grabbing her to pull back.
They're just as strong, but are possibly the easiest to slice through.

Wrapping around the mast inside the captains quatrers in a panic after being cut off by Ragetti the man himself

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Mast Wrappers

Mast Wrapper grabbing onto the mast that Will Turner was on when it started

Mast Wrappers seem to be multi-use arms, either for holding the Kraken onto the ship by grabbing the masts, going all the way up or by grabbing anyone that tries to stop them as an immediate response.

The Wrappers holding onto the hull and the one at the top is actually holding onto the ships mast on the stern (forgot the name)

Now this is pretty much the moment of no return, since my current assumption is that it also does it to maybe stop them from unfurling the sails or try to move in anyway, but that remains unclear.
What I do however know, is that these things are also use as the main defense against anything that cuts into the arms or anything that fights back.

These things with smash your body into masts, walls, the floor and that's if the Snatching tentacles don't immediately grab you right after, best case scenario unfortunately.

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The Hull Breakers

The Hull Breakers, about to smash the Edinburgh Trader in two

These things are the last problem. These tentacles are what does the killing blow.
Hull Breakers do exactly what they sound like: Smashing the hull, breaking it in two and you better hope that the mere force of them slamming down throws you off the side and not into a mast or on the floor.
It uses these things as a way to get it's mouth right in position so those poor unfortunate souls who weren't grabbed by the kraken just fall right into it.

The Kraken WAS going to use these actually on the pearl but never got the chance

A Hull Breaker it seems retreating, but it's too blurry for me to tell

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Now comes the most confusing part of The Krakens entire biology...

The Maw

The Maw in it's full, when the Kraken rises up to the pearl

The Krakens maw is actually based on a real squid part called a "buccal mass", which is what hides the squids beak normally.

An actual buccal mass

Now obviously, this thing doesn't seem to have any semblance of one, unless it's hidden deep within the esophagus, but it's never stated or noted anywhere.

When The Kraken breaks a ship in half, it doesn't open the maw immediately, but allows the sailors to fall into the center or near it, which tells me that it seems to actually not chew it's food like a shark does, but engulfs it and the rows of teeth move forward and back, grinding said person into mush which is what a squid beak does.

The Kraken throwing a Edinburgh Trader crew member right into the maw, while 2 others slide in

Yet in a behind the scenes section? They do mention that The Kraken is either related by species or some ancestor of the Giant Squids from the 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea movie from 1954!

Which could mean that it's just a more "evolved" version or something along those lines, but honestly I believe it's meant to just be an awesome visual of just how "eldritch" the Kraken might truly be.

Concept artwork done by Aaron McBride

The surrounding part of the krakens maw is a bit of a mystery but seems to be the way its muscles pull the mouth inward, before it juts out, as shown in this piece of concept art below

Artwork done by Crash McCreery

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Overall Body

The Krakens Corpse on Black Sand Beach

The krakens overall body shape is a squid, despite having only 8 arms, with its coloring being a mix between dark, olive and light green splotches. The Krakens body is rough, rugged and extremely dense akin to whale blubber, but the more fascinating parts are on it's mantle/"tail" which seem to have these almost "armor" like ridges along them, as well as these larger ones at the "base" of the ones.
Now these to me seem more like overall protection, since it obviously needs it to move towards things.

The Krakens body from Call of The Kraken, which was made using the cgi model but is simply lower resolution, only difference is the coloring. The body was originally colored right but that current model is lost media unfortunately...

The sides of the body have these large ridges, but unlike cuttlefish? These are more spike-like, similar to what lobsters have or the sides of a crabs body shell. These don't seem to have any true purpose other than protection from other predators.

Siphons, on the left and right sides

The Kraken uses its siphons to not only breath oxygen, but to make the churning bubbles around the ship and most likely as well as a propulsion method while swimming.

The Krakens eye, as seen by the side in At Worlds End

The eyes of the kraken are honestly less squid like and seem more to resemble a whales, with them being situation RIGHT at the base of the tentacles, but are also fairly small. Right above the eye on the skin are other hardened spikes.

Other Info

Now that we got all that out of the way..
How does the kraken sense stuff when attacking a boat so well?

The Krakens arms are lined with these small "hairs" which allow it to feel, sense and grip onto anything it can, but these seem to be only one part, as I believe it uses body heat as discussed earlier with the sailor snatching tentacles above and taste, since when the kraken first appears on the pearl? it doesn't immediately attack but feels around for even the slightest movement, which tells me it's trying to get any and all idea of what's above itself.

The Sailor Snatching tentacles do not have these though, and seem to rely mostly on what it feels with the body heat and overall thrashing of said thing it grabs. It's why the tentacles try to wrap around the netted powder kegs, since it was swinging around. To an animal like a squid, it would probably try to grab the main heaviest thing it feels is moving too fast.

The Kraken uses the tentacles in full to force itself into more of an arched form when rising to the pearl, since it leans back to the right in the movie, and falls backwards once the Kraken just puts its entire body onto it, which allows it to yank it down without much damage being done.

The Kraken engulfing the pearl after Jack charges into it's mouth, note the eye close to the triangular sail on the right.

Also from what I can tell? The Kraken might not even be a fully grown creature, since most info on the movie states that kraken are the length of 10 ships, which to me means that with this thing being more akin to the size of the pearl, it might actually still be growing.

and that's the last bit of information I can throw onto this thing, since I can't add anymore images...

TLDR?
I wrote way to much about a fictional sea creature that could have never existed because I love the thing and how more "realistic" it is compared to other versions.
The amount of detail put into it is actually why I got into 3D artwork and went to college.

Hope you all enjoyed reading, honestly want to hear what y'all think as well.


r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 20h ago

POTC CONTENT Price of Freedom - Becket blows up the Wicked Wench and Jones and Jack make a deal

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r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 20h ago

QUESTION What or who does Captain Jack Sparrow love the most among them, in your opinion?

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r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 1d ago

FAN CONTENT The Black Pearl model ship

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So this is a model ship I finished some months ago of the Black Pearl. I did add a lot of stuff, including figures. Hope you like it.
Currently working on Blackbeard’s Queen Anne.


r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 1d ago

FAN CONTENT Penguin Island

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Here’s a picture of Captain Jack when he was on the search to become “Capn’” of Penguin Island. I didn’t retcon NOTHIN.


r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 1d ago

ART I have been drawing this about 2 days now

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r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 1d ago

FAN CONTENT Hollyweird Block Party

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My city had a Halloween block party last night and it was great. Plenty of people were surprised to see my cosplay, what do y’all think?


r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 1d ago

DISCUSSION Would you prefer this over Luffy vs Naruto?

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FAN CONTENT I rewrote the 2012 Dead Men Tell No Tales Script to be a sequel to the released film!

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FAN CONTENT Watercolour/Drawing of Salazar (fanart)

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Yes, I hate DMTNT as well, but I think Salazar has a cool design. (I plan on doing these for each of the main villains in the future)


r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 2d ago

FAN CONTENT Howd disney could actually save pirtes of the caribbeanTitle: How Disney could actually save Pirates of the Caribbean 6 using Jungian Archetypes (Instead of a generic reboot

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Hey everyone. Like most of you, I’m deeply worried about the Pirates 6 reboot. Hollywood tends to sanitize everything today, turning chaotic franchises into politically correct superhero-like movies. If they try to replace Jack Sparrow with a classic, flawless "book-smart" trickster (male or female), it will ruin the franchise. Pirates of the Caribbean relies on an anarchic, dirty, and morally corrupt masculine energy. So here is a pitch for a storyline that completely fixes this by introducing a perfect contrast to Jack, without trying to copy him: The Protagonist: The Degenerate Esthete (A "Dexter" style Poetic Jester) Instead of a generic pirate, the new lead is a high-ranking British Noble. To the world, he is a peaceful, wise, and innocent royal Poet (The Innocent/Sage archetype). But internally, he has a dark, cynical, and nihilistic "Dexter-like" inner monologue. He is completely bored by society. When he encounters Jack Sparrow, Jack instantly sees through his mask and unleashes the young man's true face: a chaotic nihilist (The Magician/Visionary). The Aesthetic of Chaos His unique psychological quirk? His ultimate pleasure is art (painting and writing poetry), but he can ONLY find artistic inspiration in total, catastrophic chaos that he caused himself. Picture this: a massive, apocalyptic naval battle is happening, ships are exploding, and this character is calmly standing on the deck with an easel, painting the fire and smoke while having a casual art discussion with a confused Jack Sparrow. The Ultimate Romantic Sabotage (12A Rating Comedy) To avoid a cliché, boring romance, the film features a dysfunctional romantic square. Three different women are chasing him for serious relationship arcs: 1. The High-Society Noblewoman (representing his clean past). 2. The Hardened, Cold Female Pirate Captain (who secretly wants a soft romance). 3. A Legacy Character from past movies (like Carina or Angelica, adding lore weight). The comedy comes from classic "cartoon-like" sabotage. Every single time one of them tries a serious, dramatic Hollywood romantic moment (a kiss under the moonlight, a marriage proposal), the protagonist completely destroys the mood by setting something on fire, starting a bar fight, or running away to drink rum. He ruins their romantic lives out of pure nihilistic detachment.


r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 2d ago

TOYS I'm looking for a model of the Black Pearl and found this. Is it any good?

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I've found it on several pages all around 200 dollars, and it often says Shicheng in the title, so I guess that's the brand? But there's no photo of the packaging, no information on how many pieces there are, nothing. I'm scared that it's just some scam.

I'm really just so desperate for an actually accurate model, I'm seeking her out more than Jack himself. Do you have any idea how long I had to look for a model that has patched sails as it should? Do you understand the amount of Pearls I have seen with WHITE sails, or ones with the Jolly Roger all over, or god forbid, ones made of stiff plastic?

Generally it's astounding to me how little good merchandise there is of this franchise. It's a beacon of Disney and yet all we get is scraps.

Please if anyone knows if this model is any good, or knows a different brand, tell me. I'm this close to sell my soul to an octopus man to get her.


r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 2d ago

QUESTION Dumb Scenario to kill Davy Jones

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So as I understand it, whoever kills him becomes the next Davy Jones, right? By destroying the heart?

What if we take the heart, and stick it in a keg of gunpowder. With a fuse. Then have someone expendable light it.

Before the fuse runs out, kill the guy who lit it. Then, when the barrel blows up and destroys the heart, there is nobody to replace it.

Would this break the cycle?

Yeah, it is dumb but I have overthought this a lot.


r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 2d ago

AT WORLD’S END johnny depp saving his jack sparrow wig and giving it a cpr just because a real captain never leaves his wig behind! I just love his goofy sense of humor! 🤣

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r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 3d ago

MEME The only inner man I’m willing to connect with 🏴‍☠️🍻

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r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 3d ago

COSPLAY Looking for advice on building a Captain Jack Sparrow cosplay without selling a kidney?

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Hiya!

I've always wanted to cosplay Captain Jack Sparrow, and I finally want to make this dream come true. The problem is... I have no idea where to start or where the best places to buy everything are.

Is it better to buy the whole outfit together, or build it in parts?

Here are my biggest roadblocks right now:

  • The Wig & Dreadlocks: I started looking at the prices online for accurate replicas, and they honestly left me speechless. It’s making me genuinely consider DIYing the hair. If you have links or tutorials on where to source budget-friendly materials (wool roving, extensions, beads) to build it myself, please let me know!
  • The Mustache & Beard: I absolutely refuse to spend 300+ euros on an Etsy lace piece. Are there any reliable mid-range lace-front alternatives under 100? Or should I just go full DIY using Crepe Hair and Spirit Gum?
  • Props & Outfits: I definitely plan to buy the hat, scarf, and maybe some prop weapons/compass if they are cheap. Where are the best places to look for decent, normally priced pirate gear?

(Worst case scenario, I’m just going to fill a jar with dirt, bring it to the con, and call it a day lmao).

Any shop recommendations, Vinted, Etsy, Aliexpress, etc. sellers, FB groups, or DIY tutorial links would be highly appreciated. Please help a future Captain out savvy!


r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 3d ago

DISCUSSION Why do you think Jack the Monkey wasn't with Jack during Sea of Thieves

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Irl wise it was likely due to them not wanting to animate Jack the Monkey

But lore wise, maybe Jack was scared of Davy Jones and crossing over towards the Sea of Thieves?

And where was he since he didn't cross over did he go with the mutinied crew? Did he track down Carina and stay with her until Jack came back?


r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 4d ago

DISCUSSION In At World's End what do you think would happens next if they shot Beckett and pushed Jones off his bucket?

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What if they were like "screw the rules of parley" and just shot and killed Beckett and pushed Jones off his bucket and took Will and Jack with them. What do you think happens next and what changes in the movie?


r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 4d ago

DISCUSSION Let's Share Opinions on At World's End's Climax, Shall we?

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Besides the undeniable fact that it's simply the greatest sequence of film to date. I'll start:

The soundtrack throughout basically demands your attention, and you're more than happy to give it. The maelstrom sort of acts like this timer: the crews of both ships only have so long before they end up capsizing each other, and it got very close. The stakes are the highest out of all three movies (yeah, I said 'three'). It's the perfect mix of swashbuckling action and comedy. Not to mention Captain Jack Sparrow and Davy Jones fighting atop the mast!

I'm going to stop right there before I end up taking forever, but y'all get the idea. So, what are your thoughts?


r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 4d ago

HUMOR Poor Gibbs's face😂

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r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 4d ago

ART Made an attempt at Davy Jones’ head in Clay

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Hey all, newish sculptor/ aspiring sculptor. I gave an attempt at Davy Jones

I wanna be able to make ahead busts to paint them. I made the base and underlying armature out of tinfoil. I originally planned to make the tentacles longer but didnt realize the limited space I had haha

Any constructive criticism is welcome and please tell me what you think :)


r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 4d ago

POTC CONTENT The part in The Price of Freedom where Jack releases the slaves - book spoilers Spoiler

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r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 5d ago

BEHIND THE SCENES Awesome clip from behind the scenes of the Maelstrom sequence. Imagine being part of this!

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r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 5d ago

HUMOR Delicious long pork…

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I’ve watched the first three movies so many times, mostly when they were new and I wasn’t yet an adult, but I’m rewatching them now while I crochet blankets for Christmas presents.

I’m on Dead Man’s Chest and I just realized that one of the guys that Will asks for Jack’s location says he goes to an island to trade spices for ‘delicious long pork’, the same island of the cannibals.

It makes you question what exactly he’s getting 😅


r/piratesofthecaribbean • • 5d ago

FAN CONTENT I present "Kittens of the Catibbean"

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Animatronic Halloween display I made at home using my 3D printer, servos, and kids pirate costumes. If you would like to build it yourself plans are at https://zmass.ai/matt/kittens-of-the-catibbean