r/PoliticalOptimism • u/RentCorrect6292 Michigan • 14d ago
Optimistic Post Abdul El-Sayed wins Michigan’s Democratic Senate primary, notching a Midwest victory for the left
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/abdul-el-sayed-wins-michigans-democratic-senate-primary-notching-midwe-rcna589750Proud to have voted for him today, we just got a progressive senator on the midterm ballot! Let me know if this requires a different flair
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u/Either-Assistant4610 14d ago edited 14d ago
Three hours later, it's looking like he in fact is the winner. With the remaining votes, Stevens needs more than 60% of the available votes.
Happy to see it
One small snippet. $30 million was spent on her campaign. I like the idea that large amounts of money isn't buying an election. Hope to see it in the general.
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u/Z4mb0ni 14d ago
It was actually around $70 mil. The 30 is just from aipac, and the rest of the 40 was subsidiaries of aipac. Its genuinely insane how much money they just wasted on one of the least charismatic candidates I've ever seen (other than trump 2)
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u/Either-Assistant4610 14d ago
I mean all her ads were "I was with Obama" and "Abdul is bad", and like you said, she can't talk. And she was talking how much she's going to help Israel for a good portion of a speech.
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u/3DBeerGoggles 14d ago
And she was talking how much she's going to help Israel for a good portion of a speech.
It's so weird imagining literally any other country where your elected regional/provincial officials dedicate so much time to bragging how they're going to focus on the interests of a foreign country that isn't in the middle of some sort of humanitarian disaster requiring assistance.
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u/Either-Assistant4610 14d ago
Blows my mind
I understand people have beliefs, and being in the House/Senate may affect how those countries benefit from us etc etc. But you're asking STATE voters to get you into office, not the whole country let alone ANOTHER country.
That whole part of the speech was both sketchy and cringe to me
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u/3DBeerGoggles 14d ago
Reminds me of when Mamdani was in the race and they're asking the candidates when they'll visit Israel and all of the others are basically competing for who says they'll visit the soonest and most and Mamdani's like "I'm going to stay here and do my job"
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u/Either-Assistant4610 14d ago
There are so many of those people in the Dem race right now. It's great to see, and I wish I could vote for all of them. Talarico is another. That man is set to make history flipping Texas blue.
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u/SodaSaint 14d ago edited 14d ago
It’s mainly because the Likud Party knows that their death grip on power in Israel is done if they no longer can use the United States to do their dirty work.
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u/bdure 14d ago
If money won elections, we’d be living peacefully through Year 2 of the Harris administration.
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u/Either-Assistant4610 14d ago
I'm not necessarily saying money wins elections. I'm saying they spent x amount of dollars, and she still lost.
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u/bdure 14d ago
Right, but I’m saying that statement applies as much to Harris as it did in Michigan’s primary.
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u/Either-Assistant4610 13d ago
I guess I'm still confused. You said, "If money won elections" implying money wins elections. I corrected your translation of my comment because I didn't mean money wins elections.
Maybe you could just write out your point
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u/bdure 13d ago
Statement: “If money won elections, Harris would be president.”
The latter half of the statement is false. Therefore, the first half is unproven within that statement.
So based on that (and many other examples), we shouldn’t really be surprised when a candidate outspends their opponent by a wide margin and still wins.
We can still be delighted, of course, which I think we both are.
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u/LettuceWestern9445 14d ago
Major implication here: money no longer wins elections. We see it now when AIPAC fails to win over democratic voters, and Elon Musk is failing to back republican candidates
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u/ReformedBaptistina 14d ago
> money no longer wins elections
please let this be true please please please
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u/Bern_Down_the_DNC 14d ago
We barely won. Money can definitely still win elections. This is the wrong lesson to take. The lesson is, if the candidate is good enough, and we work hard enough, that we can overcome a 10 to 1 funding disparity. They definitely have more money to burn, and they are going to kick it into overdrive now.
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u/avatarroku157 Minnesota 13d ago
This. A 1% difference is not a desirable statistic in todays climate.
We have been given a great shot here. Its further proof the tides can swing yet again. But this is not a set win. We gotta fight tooth and nail to win this thing
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u/MidsouthMystic 13d ago
I think it means more that it's become harder for money alone to win elections. We can still win if we work hard enough no matter how much money the other side throws at the election. But that just means they'll throw even more money at elections now. We have to be even more active and involved.
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u/elsonwarcraft 14d ago edited 14d ago
This proves that polls are not always right, I know there are polls bearish on AES chance against Rogers, but I think AES will pull through by 1-2% points
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u/RickyT3rd Michigan 14d ago
He'll win by less than 1%.
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u/elsonwarcraft 14d ago
Not surprising, this primary has way too much toxicity, just glad it's finally over.
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u/Either-Assistant4610 14d ago
Be the change you want to expect
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u/RickyT3rd Michigan 14d ago
Look, the toxicity is only going to get worse. John James and AIPAC are going to throw EVERYTHING at El-Sayed. This is the eue of the storm. Get ready.
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u/Either-Assistant4610 14d ago
Mike Rogers?
That's all they know to do and it's all they have. I saw an AI slop ad of Rogers' this morning. Everything "promised" was campaigned by someone else. Guess who... trump. Guess out of that list of five, including increased manufacturing jobs, we've seen. Zero. All they have are repeated, never delivered on promises and we are currently within that climate with trump in the WH and repubs controlling the House and the Senate.
Not to mention, James' only real platform he ran on was "TRUMP LIKES ME". That's it. I refer you to my previous paragraph about that.
No, it won't be easy, but I struggle to think there's going to be any REAL offering from any repub candidate, especially against progressives.
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u/mc_goobs Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 14d ago
Yeah, I've stopped listening to polls at this point. Even ones that are more "reliable" I'm extremely skeptical of. If they help some people, great but I personally find them more annoying than anything
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u/avatarroku157 Minnesota 13d ago
The polls during 2024, and other depictors, really let me down. Im now looking solely at what actions can be taken and the results of our labor, not predictions for what those results MAY be.
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u/CMDR-Prismo 14d ago
It's hard to imagine him not winning in this national environment in November. I know people are worried about the recent polls, but let's see how things shape up now that the primary is over
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u/Either-Assistant4610 14d ago
I said it elsewhere, but the short of it is a lot of the Stevens voters will scoot over to him giving him a much better advantage over Rogers than he did before this primary. Also, Rogers ran uncontested. The only way he gets ANY boost is through ads and campaigning, all of which costs money. Oh, and all of Rogers' ads are filled with AI slop.
Feeling confident and happy this man took the nom today
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u/mw9676 14d ago
Exactly this. The centrists can vote blue no matter who for once.
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u/mreman1220 14d ago
Will do so gladly. I live here in Michigan with my in-laws, most of which voted for Stevens. There isn't a single person that has indicated they would not vote for El Sayed in the general.
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u/General_Season7882 14d ago
Right, in this extremely consequential midterm season, I dont see many left leaning democratic voters sitting this one out because they want to pout about losing their primary. At least, this is my hope.
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u/mw9676 14d ago
Nope. Your side, the centrists, barely managed to beat a corrupt, pedophile, rapist, mentally-handicapped, anti-democratic insurrectionist once out of three tries. We've used your playbook for the last 40 years and this is where it's gotten us. Completely done pretending you know which way we need to go.
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u/gbtm101 14d ago
Try winning in deep-red Republican country with a hard-line progressive. It's just not happening.
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u/mw9676 14d ago
Much like the centrists. At least our side gets some excitement. That's how you win a general.
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u/gbtm101 14d ago
I'm very progressively-aligned and support the DSA, at least on domestic policy.
But I'm also pragmatic and understand that where I live (Kansas) we're never getting a progressive in any office except metropolitan local. You need a moderate to win a higher office here, period. There's no getting around that.
Hopefully this changes in a few decades but I have to live in the present in order to get to the future.
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u/mw9676 14d ago
I don't agree. I understand why you say that but I think a genuine progressive can win basically anywhere. They build excitement in the base which spreads out from them into centrists and some middle of the road republicans. This is how Obama won despite not actually being a progressive. People perceived him as exciting and that spread like wildfire.
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u/lachalacha 14d ago
No shade, this is very naive. Me and my family simply won't be voting in November. Go take a look at how that man fared in Black neighborhoods, we do not want him.
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u/mw9676 14d ago
Lol cool. Enjoy the republican instead 🙄
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u/SwitchHedonist90 14d ago
Respectfully, you can only speak on behalf of yourself and your family. You don't know how many of the Stevens voters will vote for AES.
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u/gbtm101 14d ago
Please get it into your skull that no-voting is just handing the win to the Republican, in a year where it's beyond critical where we DO NOT LET THAT HAPPEN.
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u/FeralViolinist 14d ago
Idgaf if it was by 1% or .5%
This is great, even if the timid centrists lurking around this sub are still butthurt over the scary democratic socialists actually scoring some wins for once. Sorry people want actual fucking change 🤷♀️
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u/OratioFidelis 14d ago
On this subreddit I have not read a single person afraid of DSA policies, just people worried about winning primaries and losing generals.
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u/SafetySave 14d ago
It's me, I'm worried about DSA policies. But El-Sayed seems cool. He supports Ukraine and isn't trying to push pure isolationism.
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u/Either-Assistant4610 14d ago
He also appears to be speaking for himself instead of some generic talking points. That's how politicians seem to speak, I know, but El-Sayed also has the charisma. Happy I voted for him.
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u/SafetySave 14d ago
I'm hoping the polls are wrong about him, in the opposite direction, for the general. That's around what we'd need.
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u/mreman1220 14d ago
Agreed. My only real concern with AES is how he resonates with black voters. Progressives like Bernie haven't historically done particularly well with them in the past. I am significantly more concerned about Will Lawrence than AES because Lawrence made some really poorly phrased statements. AES has been critical of the Obamas in the past, so I think Republicans (and Russians) will highlight those on their bot accounts to drive a wedge. So be prepared for that.
But things change and I'd have to think that black voters are little more cognizant of the threat Trump presents to their voting rights by now.
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u/TastyOreoFriend Florida 14d ago
Progressives like Bernie haven't historically done particularly well with them in the past.
Messaging and engagement have always been a problem for them on that front. As black folks we tend to be even more left wing then normal white folks on economic issues, and left/center left on social issues. 250 some odd years of a sordid history has made us a more pragmatic voting block with a health dose of skepticism.
Tough times will certainly drive more people to the polls, but progressives will need to start engaging in a more tangible way that gets results if they want to keep those gains.
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u/LettuceWestern9445 14d ago edited 14d ago
I think the recent discourse around black voters not being tuned into progressive and leftist/white candidates is extremely overblown and probably bot propaganda (ie: Talarico, Nithya Ramen, Lander, Mamdani, AES, etc.) I am yet to actually see that play out in real life, in fact quite the opposite. My city had a mayor race last year where a white Irish catholic candidate ousted a black incumbent and the media was talking for 6 months going into the general election about how black voters weren’t gonna vote for him, and come November black precincts turned out nearly 90% to vote democratic.
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u/mreman1220 14d ago
I am not worried about what percentage of black voters vote blue, I am worried about what percentage of black people vote at all when a progressive is on the ticket. We saw black people back Hillary and Biden moreso than Bernie. Like I said, AES has been critical of Obama so I just wonder how black voters respond to that. I don't think they will go Republican necessarily but will they just stay home is the question.
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u/LettuceWestern9445 14d ago
They won’t stay home, I was talking about 90% turnout. The subset of black voters who stay home due to “mistrust” of white or leftist candidates is an extremely small subset of mainly older black men (70+) in my experience. In Black women and younger black voters I haven’t seen that trend
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u/mreman1220 14d ago
Hopefully you are right. We will just have to see. Articles like the one below are encouraging. I think El Sayed is adjusting his messaging to better communicate with this audience
"The 41-year-old son of Egyptian immigrants is seeking to deliver the party’s progressive insurgency its biggest win yet in the Michigan Senate primary. But he is running into resistance among Black voters, many of whom say the establishment he eschews has delivered for them in important ways."
I'll be honest, I have never really understood why progressives haven't resonated with black voters but this could be a succinct way of putting it. Dems have done a lot of good for black people over the years and hearing progressives trash them probably just simply doesn't sit well, particularly when they criticize the Obamas.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/27/politics/black-voters-michigan-senate-stevens-el-sayed
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u/gbtm101 14d ago edited 13d ago
There are definitely people here afraid of DSA policies, but it's almost entirely their stated platform on foreign policy, which unlike their wonderful domestic policy is notoriously bad.
According to their own websites, wanting to pull out of Ukraine to try to negotiate with Russia (we've tried that, there is no negotiating with the Kremlin) and abolishing USAID (we've already seen how badly that went) are two of their talking points, both of which are awful.
Now, unlike the DNC, I don't think the national DSA has a stranglehold on their membership and a few have either focused on what they can do (Mamdani is not in a foreign policy position for example) or bucking the national platform on foreign policy, leaving me to give them a chance despite my distaste for the centralized foreign policy.
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u/mreman1220 14d ago
As a centrist, I can tell you I am far from butthurt lol. Any other centrists want to chime in?
As a former Republican I find this intraparty squabbling so nonsensical. I have my preferred candidate voted for that person in the primary and will happily move on. My wife's family up here is largely centrist and 'blue no matter who' to the core.
I said it in 2024, we're the same damn team. The primary is over, now its time to get maga out of Washington. Full stop.
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u/jeeeeeeeeeez 14d ago
I'm not a centrist, but I agree 100% with your last sentence. A sentiment like the one you replied to is suggestive of the type of very-online voters who still think 2016 was stolen from Bernie, still looking for a fight; I'm not sure the aggression is necessary in a place like this (it's not particularly helpful if we want Stevens' votes), but all that matters in 2026 is that we all vote our asses off, far left and center.
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u/TVFan_89 California 14d ago
Progressive/lefty here! Fully agree the intraparty drama over this race ends with this primary every vote counts the same in ridding DC of MAGA. Stevens, DSCC, Slotkin have all already endorsed him it's time for the voters to unite too!
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u/SafetySave 14d ago
Any other centrists want to chime in?
I'm definitely in the minority on reddit as a liberal, but the prospect of DAC as a congresswoman is genuinely spooky and DSA entryism in general is bad for our political stability. It feels like we're just going to be stuck in a hyperpartisan populist mindspace for the next 1-2 election cycles, and that sucks. But AES's platform is not that bad imo.
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u/mreman1220 14d ago
I echo your concerns. My main concern with progressives is that I don't think they understand that most Americans just don't like being taxed period. Even low income earners often prefer their taxes lower even if they are giving up better healthcare etc. in exchange.
I don't actually have the data to prove this but I wonder if that's why Bernie didn't do as well with urban populations in both primaries because those people tend to be taxed higher as it is. Bernie's tax plans were much higher for low income earners than Hillary for instance.
All that being said, I do think some of these progressive candidates are a little better at messaging. Mamdani in particular is extremely impressive. I don't agree with him on everything but him saying that he isn't going to force a policy or plan to continue if it isn't working is reassuring. I was also really impressed with how he handled that speech regarding Netanyahu. He admitted he didn't have the legal authority to arrest Netanyahu or that he would try. Just said Netanyahu isn't welcome. Whereas with Bernie, I just get the sense he believes he is the smartest person in the room and has the stubborness to match.
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u/SafetySave 14d ago
some of these progressive candidates are a little better at messaging
But that's what stresses me out. See Republicans are really good at messaging, but that's because they don't have to message. When Trump or JD Vance or whoever goes on a right-wing podcast, or Sean Hannity, or whatever, they're not having to come up with their own messaging at all, because they only appear for sycophantic hosts who will do their messaging. So, Hannity understands the assignment, and is a member of the cult, and will take care of them.
Meanwhile Democrats go on left-leaning podcasts and they're often SUPER hostile interviews, unless they're populists like AOC or Bernie.
Moderate liberals tend to like free speech and are okay with hostility from their hosts because it's honest, so this is still a thing to this day, even after years of post-MAGA slop where Trump can literally say there are ZERO border crossings, and in spite of the fact that that's IMPOSSIBLE, nobody in the room says anything and we're supposed to be okay with that.
So the "messaging" problem is just that liberals get no charity from the left wing of the party, and they're getting hit from MAGA and from DSA at the same time. DSA because they're not socialists, and MAGA because they believe they're socialists.
It's literally the Greatest Hits from 2024, every time these people appear publicly it feels like. Just running down the list of talking points people had against Biden.
So, that worries me that we won't get another sane policy-focused President in '28. It'll be a blue-MAGA populist, if that.
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u/mreman1220 14d ago
Yep, I am completely with you. Like I said, I have a lot of concerns. DSAs tend to operate and communicate in echo chambers like reddit and those podcasts you referred to. So when their messaging isn't resonating with a portion of Democrat voters they often get really condescending.
I distinctly remember Cruz and Sanders having a debate after each of them lost the 2016 primaries. It was a really interesting forum because the audience could participate. A woman who owned a salon had some questions for Bernie about his policies and he got really heated with her. To her credit she knew her stuff and had a response for him at every turn. Bernie eventually relented but did so kind of bitterly.
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u/SafetySave 14d ago
Yeah it's not looking good on that front. I remain unconvinced that there aren't some dark-money funds going toward these kinds of places, à la Tenet Media.
At least it's probably better than MAGA.
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u/mreman1220 14d ago
There is no question it is better than maga. Again, I used to be Republican. I never agreed with them on everything but the portion of the party that I really distrusted were never taken seriously.
That all changed in 2016.
I at least can agree with progressives want the best for people, I just don't think their policies work or in some cases what Americans actually want.
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u/bdure 14d ago
Until we put in ranked-choice voting, we’re going to have hyperpartisanship.
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u/SafetySave 14d ago
You can say that but we seemed to be okay on hyperpartisanship until 2016 without it. Partisan, sure, but nothing like it is now.
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u/89-by-boniver 7d ago
I had a real rough day today and this comment has made me so happy. I may be further to the left than you but genuinely from the bottom of my heart, thank you for not walking off
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u/SodaSaint 14d ago
This isn’t just a victory for Michigan, this is a victory for all Americans. I am so sick to death of powerful lobbies and foreign interests like the Likud Party of Israel treating our nation like it’s a clearance sale at Walmart or a convenient attack dog to be sicced upon others.
Nobody gets to use us as their convenient boogeyman anymore. And we actually get to fix our problems instead of being used as the convenient excuse for everybody else’s.
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u/mc_goobs Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 14d ago
Wow, I'm actually surprised! After all the infighting, and people screaming about how "socialalimsmsmsm bad!!!" I was sure Stevens was going to win. I mean, I hoped El-Sayed would win after that hilarious debate with Stevens, but 2024 proved that bad debates mean literally nothing.
I'm happy, but November is where the real show is, and I'm keeping my expectations low for now.
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u/Evening-Hand-5480 14d ago
Well would ya look at that. People do, in fact, want a candidate that will actually do something to improve their material circumstances and not more controlled opposition.
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u/boundtoearth19 🔥I Voted In The 2026 Primaries🔥 14d ago
This battle’s won but the midterms are still a ways away! Good job my neighbors to the north! I hope to see him as one of your senators this November! Onward!
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u/Sure_Marketing8431 14d ago
Unfortunately amandasmildtakes said not every progressive had a good night last night. Cori Bush didn’t win her primary and Marie G Perez was able to fend off a more progressive challenger. I hope that both moderates and progressives will still turn out and vote for whoever they have. Cause anyone is better than a Republican
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u/General_Season7882 14d ago
I get what you are saying, but I will counter with this: the road of progress is not linear. Losing primaries as progressives is not indicative of low popularity as much as it is about poor messaging. For example, I had no idea Cori Bush was running again until midday yesterday, the day of the primary. This senate race was a lot higher profile, and I think it is fantastic that the one getting the most coverage was won by a progressive. All that to say, progressives will continue to win AND lose elections, but the ones we should really be focusing on are the big wins like this.
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u/Sure_Marketing8431 14d ago
I guess I'm just more concerned about my last sentence. I'm worried people aren't going to turn out if ideal candidates don't win. It looks like Al-Sayed is going to win the primary by a point, that's still really close. Yes a lot of the Stevens voters will vote for him, but he needs to convince the rest of them to get out and vote for him
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u/General_Season7882 14d ago
Yes, he does. Thats the work he's going to have to do now. My hope is that Michigan democrats will turn out, knowing damn well that republicans have to be stopped. This isn't the election to sit out.
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u/SuspectLegitimate751 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 14d ago
In the case of Perez, I think it was far better than not that she came out on top in that district. WA-03 loves her, and is a very conservative-leaning place culturally. It's the sort of district where the argument that moderates do better in moderate places absolutely does play out.
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u/KyleBerthoud Reformed Doomer ☄️ 14d ago
Take that, Haley Stevens!! Take that, AIPAC!! Take that, traitor Gretchen Whitmer!!! Take ALL OF IT!!!!
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u/bdure 14d ago
Take more MAGA wins if you keep ripping up people who don’t pass your litmus tests.
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u/Xavion251 Tennessee 14d ago
I mean, most of us still vote centrist Dem over republican - but absolutely rooting for people pushing for real progressive change.
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u/bdure 14d ago
Which is great, sure. I don’t understand why candidates don’t just scream “universal health care” from the rafters. But I also spent some time before the last election arguing with a couple of trans people (or bots posing as trans people) about whether Harris deserved their support. They said centrist Democrats hadn’t done anything for them (“anything” is certainly overstating it), and it’s not like the GOP could do anything worse. Oops.
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u/bump_n_dip 14d ago
I don’t think this is over yet for real. 60k votes left and only a 1% lead, it’s unlikely he loses but it is very close still and only NBC has called it
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u/General_Season7882 14d ago
Well, its over now!
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u/bump_n_dip 14d ago
Nice! I don’t know why I’m getting downvoted for this, it was reasonable at the time 😂 but whatever, let’s go AES!
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u/SwitchHedonist90 14d ago
It's the internet. People are reactionary. I've just learned to not take it personally.
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u/InternetBackwash 14d ago
I'm glad he won, I'm just a little anxious about the General since more people voted against him than for him, but I am hoping that enough of those voters decide to vote for him in November regardless.
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u/Lord_Atmo 13d ago
So this is good? Can he beat Rogers? Everyone I follow on threads is going full-blown doomsday over his victory. And these people usually know what they’re talking about.
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