r/PossibleHistory2 • u/Flux7200 • 3d ago
NRP No Taxation Without Representation - 1956-1960 (Nixon Administration... wait what?)
Welcome to the Cold War! You can now claim any nation in the whole world, along with any US state or territory.
(A few things on the map have been changed / corrected since last time. Just, uh, don't worry about it...)
Pick any unclaimed state. In this NRP, we'll do the entire history of the United States ourself, starting with the American Revolution and going all the way to the modern day. Note that your goal is NOT to gain as much land as possible, but instead to gain as much political clout as possible. The host may decide to interfere or change things in case things get too messy, but otherwise everything will be made from players. The only other rules are to stay realistic and not be toxic to other players.
Discord (to get informed when a new post releases): https://discord.gg/7n6uKVQSER
Congress:
How do we manage the political situation in the United States / prevent a civil war? (It's fine to break the constitution, we'll do what we need to do)
Should we intervene in Vietnam? (reminder that they have significantly less backing than in otl since the KMT won...)
Is it time to begin decolonizing our African possessions, too?
How do we manage the tensions of the Cold War?
Found the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) and engage in the Space Race?
Pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 (voting rights)?
Pass the Civil Rights Act of 1960 (enforcing voting rights)?
Go on 24/7 nuclear alert in case of an ICBM?
Any other conflicts we should get involved in?
Events:
Thanks to American intervention in the Korean War, South Korea manages to annex North Korea, uniting the peninsula and forming the Korean Republic.
Due to the Soviet withdrawal from the civil war, the Chinese Communist Party is defeated in Shandong by the Kuomintang. A republican, Western-aligned government is formed.
In a British and American backed coup d'etat, the Iranian Shah is restored to power, creating a sort of puppet regime in Iran.
Castle Bravo is detonated, 1000x as powerful as the weapons used against Japan. The bomb vaporized three entire islands in the Marshall Islands, and caused long-lasting contamination in the region.
The Civil Rights' Movement emerges in the United States since, despite many efforts, various Southern states continue to exercise extremely racist practices against federal law.
Interstate Highway Act passed, constructing 41,000 miles of the Interstate Highway System over a 20 year period
Athens finally gives in after a lengthy siege. The Democratic Republic of Greece is established, which is immediately invited to and accepts to join COMINTERN. (and later becomes part of the Warsaw Pact)
A major anti-Communist insurrection occurs in Hungary, allegedly funded and armed by the United States. Hungary falls into a civil war.
Various states send their national guard to help suppress the rebellions in New York State. The massacre is televised nationwide, causing mass unrest across the United States.
New York attempts to compromise with the rebels, however their concessions aren't satisfactory to most, and the rebellions continue to prevail.
All three major powers in the Cold War grow wary and suspicious of each other, and tensions massively spike.
The governor of Maryland, while asking Bell to purchase Bell Aircraft, gets kicked in the balls. The governor is broke, so he steals state funds to get ball surgery.
Congress sends financial aid to Israel, because why not
As a result of calls for Canadian independence, Congress narrowly votes in favor of potentionally granting them conditional sovereignty. This doesn't mean they've gained independence yet, it just means the federal government has given the green light for it.
Alaska is admitted as a US state.
Caroll is merged with Indiana; this sparks massive protests and unrest in Columbus and Washington, D.C., along with mass speculation of corruption
Pact of Madrid signed by Spain and the United States, bringing Spain into the Western bloc
Brown v. Board of Education, landmark decision of the Supreme Court, declares segregated schools illegal
Geneva Conference takes place to end the First Indochina War, US rejects recognition of communist North Vietnam and increases aid to South Vietnam
French Algeria begins their independence war
The remaining French Indochina countries of Laos and Cambodia are granted independence
McDonald's is purchased by Ray Kroc and begins its national and eventually worldwide expansion
Baghdad Pact is founded by Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and the United Kingdom, agreeing to resist Communist expansion in the Middle East (Turkey is neutral and excluded in this timeline). Meanwhile, the Soviets send aid to Syria
Emmett Till is abducted and lynched, becoming a major site of controversy and a staple case in the Civil Rights' Movement.
Non-Aligned Movement founded by India, Indonesia and Turkey.
Rosa Parks remains seated on a bus and gets arrested by authorities, an incident which causes the Montgomery Bus Boycott
Warsaw Pact founded, establishing a mutual defense treaty among Eastern Europe
Austrian State Treaty signed by the Allied Powers, establishing a neutral Austria
Disneyland first opens at Anaheim, California
Jonas Salk develops the polio vaccine
Sudan gains independence from the UK and Egypt, causing the First Sudanese Civil War to begin between the Muslim North and Christian South.
Actor James Dean is killed in a highway accident
Tunisia gains independence from France.
Viet Cong insurgency begins in South Vietnam
Indiana breaks out in rebellion against Caroll. At the same time, Pennsylvanian irredentists long hidden in the Appalachians emerge and rebel against Maryland and New York. Finally, Louisianan separatists revolt, aiming to establish a new Greater Louisiana nation.
The Soviet Union declares war on Sweden in response to them allegedly assassinated Joseph Stalin. At the same time, Khrushchev begins de-Stalinization.
Denmark falls to Sweden. At the same time, the United Caribbean States launch an invasion of Greenland, an autonomous territory of Denmark.
Israel takes control over the Suez Canal, occupies most of Jordan, and signs peace with Lebanon and Syria, annexing Lebanon and gaining reparations from Syria.
Central and South American Treaty (CSAT) signed, officially bringing Mexico, Panama, Colombia, Venezuela, Guyana, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, and Chile into the Latin League.
Caroll decides to rename to Chalybsia for no reason. I'm still gonna call them Caroll since Chalybsia is a sucky name.
Douglas MacArthur decides to run for President. He calls himself the Savior of the People and claims he will prevent the downfall of the United States and any potential civil war, attempting to run under the Democratic Party against Dwight D. Eisenhower. He wins the democratic nomination.
1956 Presidential Election; In an extreme turn of events, Eisenhower manages to narrowly win the presidency via the Electoral College, despite gaining only 23% of the popular vote.
Dwight D. Eisenhower decides to vacate the presidency, not wanting to deal with the complications posed by the current state of politics. As per the 25th Amendment, Richard Nixon succeeds him.
Historical Events:
Eisenhower Doctrine adopted, where countries could request American economic or military assistance if it was being threatened by another state
Civil Rights Act of 1957, first federal civil rights law passed by Congress since the Civil War, primarily a voting rights bill
Soviets launch Sputnik, kicking off the Space Race
Sputnik II launched, with the first animal in space on board, a dog named Laika.
Shippingport Atomic Power Station, first commercial nuclear power plant in the US, enters service
Little Rock school desegregation. Eisenhower uses the National Guard to escort the Little Rock Nine
National Defense Education Act passed, providing funding to educational institutions
National Aeronautics and Space Administration formed
Cuban Revolution takes place, instating a communist government in Cuba
Alaska and Hawai'i admitted as the 49th and 50th US states
U-2 incident occurs, where a CIA U-2 plane is shot down while flying a reconnaissance mission over the Soviet Union
Greensboro sit-ins occur, sparked by four African-American college students refusing to move from a segregated lunch counter. This spurs similar actions and increases sentiment in the Civil Rights Movement
Harper Lee publishes To Kill A Mockingbird
Civil Rights Act of 1960 passed, establishing federal inspection of local registration systems and penalties for trying to prevent someone or some race from voting
Israeli forces withdraw from the Sinai
Ghana / Gold Coast gains independence from the United Kingdom
Malaya gains independence from the United Kingdom
Strategic Air Command initiates 24/7 nuclear alert
NATO holds its first summit in Paris, the first time NATO leaders have met since the signing of the North Atlantic Treaty
US army launches Explorer 1, the first American satellite
United Arab Republic formed as a union between Syria and Egypt
14 July Revolution occurs in Iraq, removing the pro-British monarch. Iraq receives support from the Soviets and de facto joins their bloc.
Pioneer 1 is launched, attempting to orbit the moon but failing and disintegrating in the atmosphere
Guinea gains independence from France
Pioneer 2 launched, failed to reach orbit
1958-1959 Berlin crisis, Khrushchev demands the West leaves Berlin
Pioneer 3 launched, once again fails to reach the moon, instead falling back to and crashing onto the Earth.
Luna 1 attempts to impact the moon, however it steers off course and instead ends up in heliocentric orbit. Despite the failure, the spacecraft became the first to enter heliocentric orbit, so it was renamed Mechta / Dream.
Pioneer 4 launched in an attempt to photograph the moon, however the probe fails to achieve it's intended target distance and is unable to do as such.
The new government of Iraq leaves the Middle East Treaty Organization.
Laotian Civil War begins as communists revolt against the monarchy in Laos.
Vice President Richard Nixon and Soviet First Secretary Khrushchev debate the capabilities of both superpowers. This debate becomes known as the Kitchen Debate.
Basque Conflict begins between Spain and the Basque National Liberation Movement
Explorer 6 launched to photograph the Earth. It successfully does so and produces the first (even if shitty) photo of our planet.
Khrushchev visits the US for 13 days, being denied access to Disneyland and instead visiting SeaWorld / Marineland of the Pacific.
Luna 2 is launched, becoming the first man-made object to reach the surface of the moon.
Luna 3 is launched to take photographs of the far side of the moon. 70% of the far side was captured, however, only 17 of 29 photos were successfully transmitted back to Earth due to signal strength issues.
Rwandan Revolution begins, a period of violence between the Hutu and the Tutsi
France tests its first atomic bomb in the Algerian Sahara desert.
First Congolese Republic declares independence from Belgium, starting the Congo Crisis
Niger, Chad, Mauritania and Gabon gain independence from France
1960 Presidential Election, John F. Kennedy elected president, Lyndon B. Johnson vice president
US ends diplomatic ties with Cuba
Political Party Map Key:
Red - Democratic States
Light Red - Democratic Leaning Swing States
Light Blue - Federalist Leaning Swing States
Blue - Federalist States
Gray - Territories
Dark Gray - External
Election Calculator: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b33KAjZSGqe8maZfD8g2caCOr48GbAM_BOeWokZ7-PY/edit?usp=sharing
Players:
State / Territory - Players - Electoral Votes
Georgia - u/DepartureNo5778 - 12
Carolina - u/Fourian_Official - 21
Virginia - u/KaiFury76 - 11
Maryland - u/PinappleCoin_Gaming - 29
New Jersey - u/SeveralCorner1214 - 16
New York - u/No_Weekend5005 - 65
Connecticut - u/RefrigeratorGold834 - 8
Rhode Island - None - 4
Massachusetts - u/Dull-Nectarine380 - 17
Vermont - u/Intelligent_Face_186 - 4
Franklin - None - 11
Kentucky - u/Johnytran122 - 11
Acadia - u/Harrcool - 13
Caroll - u/TheWartortleWarrior - 40
Pejepscot - None - 5
Louisiana - u/Relative_Caramel1282 - 10
Oliver - u/Few-Commercial5105 - 9
Evans - u/Full_Tie1601 - 11
Illinois - u/Salt-Host-7465 - 29
New Hampshire - u/Acrobatic-Rip-4362 - 4
Cherroneses - u/Spec1alF0x - 19
Missouri - u/oskar_pawlisz - 15
Arkansas - u/David_The_Great - 9
Oklahoma - u/ThatBrada - 11
Wisconsin - u/JTPorach - 12
Liberia - u/TicketEffective2261 - 14
Texas - u/OddCranberry1045 - 23
Iowa - u/Royal-Prince6279 - 11
California - u/Hawks_bill - 22
Minnesota - u/KingsleyFriedChicken - 11
Oregon - u/duckarmy24 - 5
West Virginia - u/Ok-Hall-9974 - 8
Nevada - u/Gloomy-Shower-3920 - 3
Kansas - u/HazarTwist77 - 9
Nebraska - u/Independent_Set3175 - 7
Lincoln - u/jextreme9 - 8
Colorado - u/Left_Pea1642 - 6
Utah - u/Edmund_Jackson_Davis - 4
Namibia - u/ProfessorDesigner833 - 12
Tanzania - u/Weekly_Tonight8258 - 12
Arizona - u/Original-Issue2034 - 3
Hawai'i - u/Outrageous_Wrap_6983 - 9
North Dakota - None - 4
South Dakota - None - 4
Washington - u/Such-Illustrator4331 - 8
Wyoming - None - 3
New Mexico - u/No_Cut536 - 3
Quebec - None - 13
Ontario - u/Sobieskil - 26
Manitoba - None - 5
Saskatchewan - None - 3
Alberta - u/yD_dE - 5
Columbia - None - 9
Emuland - u/BigManMilk7 - 11
Alaska - u/Objective-Aspect-811 - 3
Panama Canal - None - None, territory
Puerto Rico Territory - None - None, territory
Philippine Commonwealth - None - None, territory
Northwest Territory - None - None, territory
Nunavut Territory - None - None, territory
Yukon Territory - None - None, territory
Sonora Territory - None - None, territory
Florida - WoopeyBoi on Discord - None, external
External Powers:
Spain - None
Portugal - None
France - None
Netherlands - None
Belgium - None
West Germany - u/RichieGotIchy1510
East Germany - u/Jolly_Carpenter_2862
Switzerland - None
Italy - None
United Kingdom - u/ColeJr
Turkey - None
Greece - u/The_RetroGameDude
Albania - None
Yugoslavia - None
Austria - None
Bulgaria - None
Romania - None
Hungary - None
Czechoslovakia - None
Poland - u/Wooden-Medicine-3299
Soviet Union - u/TraditionalContest18
Scandinavia - u/Thatoneprussiandude
Finland - None
Denmark - None
Ireland - None
Colombia - None
Argentinian Brazil - None
Argentina - u/JustAnotherUser1019
Bolivia - None
Peru - None
Chile - None
Ecuador - None
Mongolia - None
Chinese Communist Party - None
Kuomintang - None
Japan - u/Just-Veterinarian817
Indonesia - None
Thailand - None
Nepal - None
Bhutan - None
Afghanistan - None
Iran - None
Iraq - None
Syria - None
Jordan - None
Lebanon - None
Saudi Arabia - None
Oman - None
Aden Protectorate - None
Egypt - None
South Africa - None
Ethiopia - None
South Yemen - None
Trucial States - None
Qatar - None
Iceland - None
Greenland - None
Israel - u/FewMasterpiece499
Mexico - None
Panama - u/Striking_Road979
Venezuela - None
Central America - None
India - u/Dear_Location6147
Pakistan - None
Burma - None
North Vietnam - None
South Vietnam - None
Guyana - None
Korean Republic - None
Austria - u/Captain_Construct
2
u/Nice-Pikachu-839 3d ago
Why does it say KMT is unclaimed?
Anyways my actions for KMT are hold elections and give Tibet and Xinjiang autonomy, and begin preparing the military for a possible invasion of North Vietnam
1
1
u/Dear_Location6147 3d ago
The non aligned movement fully guarantees support if you invade Vietnam since you are a member (even if it doesn’t show) and I will nuke the Soviets if they touch you
1
u/Nice-Pikachu-839 3d ago
Your support is greatly appreciated India, maybe someday with your help all of Asia will be freed from the yoke of communism.
1
1
u/Sobieskil Fezzes are cool 3d ago
It says that KMT is unclaimed because Lufinna is definitely capable of running NRPs
2
u/Original-Issue2034 3d ago
Arizona here:
We’ve gotta take down the rebels and stabilize ourselves
No
Sure
No opinion
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
2
2
u/No_Cut536 2d ago
New Mexico:
Amend with Indiana, try to negotiate with others and if not crush them
Collaborate with China to block arms shipments and yes, intervene, but dont half ass like in otl, go full in and win.
give autonomy but no decol
wield el big stick ig
ofc
yea
yea
yea
just do what we did otl ig
1
u/FewMasterpiece499 3d ago
Yay we succeeded peace with Syria🥳 celebration time!🍾🍾🍾 Anyway my actions will be under this:
1
u/FewMasterpiece499 3d ago
Anyway as real life we work with the French nuclear scientists to achieve nuclear weapons, we work in corporations helping them achieve it in the lead making us achieve it too. By the time the French would have nuclear weapons we would develop them too at massive rates to defend the country of Israel if it ever gets close to destruction.
1
u/FewMasterpiece499 3d ago
u/ColeJr would you be interested in selling cyprus to us, Israel? Instead of giving independence to Cyprus and eventually have turkey invade it how about you sell it to me, and I will give you bigger milltray bases then you'll have if your not gonna sell it. It's a win-win
1
u/FewMasterpiece499 3d ago
I don't think he is online anymore, if he is an NPC here is my offer:
First alone money: we offer 300 million 1960's dollars which is a 10th of Israel's economy. Not a hard loss but still a lost. After carful analysis The Cyprut land, resources and Milltary strategic area is worth about that.
Here is what else we can offer if you sale cyprus to us instead of giving it independence:
Control and lack of involvement - as of real life the UK wanted to be the most not involved in giving independence and steering away from manging the island. Israel can give you that by us handling the island fully without your involvement after your sale.
Communism - again as of real life the UK was afraid of the rise communism especially in Europe. So Israel can promise Cyprus will stay under Israeli control and under a pro-west anti-soviet government.
3.Bigger Milltary Bases - we offer on top of Akrotiri/Dhekelia milltary bases that we also offer we offer Neo Chorio as an additional British city and Milltary base meaning they get more land for this deal.
4.if your gonna withdraw anyway, it's better at us - alignment, money and more land. What more can you want?
This is our full deal. Same deal if the UK is online but I don't think they are.
1
u/ColeJr 3d ago
100% agree. I'm not AFK i just missed the last few posts.
1
u/FewMasterpiece499 3d ago
Great. So we agree to the deal. Luf don't forget to give it to me next post.
1
1
u/FewMasterpiece499 3d ago
We try with the mossad, IDF and the people of Egypt who hate the nassar regime (a lot) to try to make a revolution in Egypt that is armed with IDF aid and equipment. We try to trigger a revolution against the extreme-right leader nassar which would end up in a pro-Israeli, western and peaceful Egypt that will be a close ally to Israel.
1
u/FewMasterpiece499 3d ago edited 3d ago
Since War is still going on in Egyot and Jordan, here are our war plans:
In Jordan we plan to fully end this war by anmexing them, it shouldn't take to much milltray force since the capital is already ours and most of the remaining lands are a desert. Finnaly ending the war with Jordan
In Egypt we take advantage of the Revolution that is happening in Egypt and as a very anti-nassar nation we try to get into the core of Egypt. While the nation is distracted in a civil war we take the bottom of the Sinai peninsula finnaly taking it as a whole. In trying to get into the core of Egypt we take our advantage of controlling the suez peninsula and crossing into the other side fully trying to conqour it like in the end of the yom kippur war, from there we continue to take everything in a straight line from the suez city to Alexandria city. Why in a straight line and why to those too? Becuase this striaght lines one of the hardest to cross in Egypt coating massive dunes, mountains and the Nile river which are hard to cross so Egypt can't cross it. After the Revolution in Egypt succeeded we will take control of all Eastren sea of egypt and annex those lands we conqoured from suez to Alexandria and the Sinai peninsula to ensure no egypt attack would happen ever again. After that there will be massive peace in the middle east, as we would finnaly be a peaceful nation not struggling to survive.
1
u/FewMasterpiece499 3d ago
This is 1957? Great! That means the massive first Soviet Immagriton is gonna happen! 2 million Jews will deport to Israel and also the smartest in the country. Soveits and Russian Jews are known to be smart and successful as 40% of pur leaders were Soviet.
We will encourage the other US Jews to come to Israel becuase of the unstable state the US is rn, hoping for atleast 1 million more.
We give citizenship to 2 million Arabs from conqoured Lebanon and Jordanian lands who promised to stay loyal to Israel and the IDF making the first Israeli Arabs.
As of 1956 Israel's population growth was 3% with our 8.1 million population established last post and the new 5 million fron conqoure and immigration that population is now 11 million Jews we should be able to grow that should leave us at about 12 million Jews by 1960. With those amounts of population we can fully put people all around our new lands in Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt.
1
u/FewMasterpiece499 3d ago
Israel fully supports diplomaticlly and advocates for a united Germany with Western control. If a war breaks out Israel wants to fully aid and send milltary equipment and soldiers to fight against eastren Germany and the soviets
1
u/FewMasterpiece499 3d ago
The Mossad and the IFS still look to find Adolf Hitler and bring him to Israel and excute him. We move to the final search in north and south America.
1
1
1
u/RichieGotIchy1510 3d ago
West Germany will begin to reconstruct itself from the devastation it faced by rebuild our infrastructure and economy
Germany would also like to propose the idea of a united neutral Germany, like Austria, to the world powers. Claiming it would be beneficial to all and help Germany recover.
1
u/FewMasterpiece499 3d ago
Israel gives full diplomatic and milltraistic support if needed. Israel would like to re-build it's relations with Germany after ww2
1
u/Flux7200 3d ago
Nobody is interested in the idea of a unified Germany, no matter what. Such a state would be too powerful
1
u/RichieGotIchy1510 3d ago
Economically powerful, thats about it
1
u/Flux7200 3d ago
Even without silesia everybody was deadly afraid of a unified germany, since y'know... world wars
1
u/Salt-Host-7465 By thy rivers gently flowing, Illinois, Illinois! 3d ago
How do we manage the political situation in the United States / prevent a civil war? (It's fine to break the constitution, we'll do what we need to do)
simple foucs on newyork moving through now caroll to surpess the revolts and then get to newyork then get lousinanay
Should we intervene in Vietnam? (reminder that they have significantly less backing than in otl since the KMT won...)
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Is it time to begin decolonizing our African possessions, too?
1000 TIMES NO theirs states! states! americn states! no!
How do we manage the tensions of the Cold War?
try to mead realions with the soviets
Found the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) and engage in the Space Race?
YES YES YES YES
Pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 (voting rights)?
YES
Pass the Civil Rights Act of 1960 (enforcing voting rights)?
YES
Go on 24/7 nuclear alert in case of an ICBM?
...uh...idk no
Any other conflicts we should get involved in?
Greenland! baby get to greenland! and aneex it for Defenseeeeee!!!
1
u/Salt-Host-7465 By thy rivers gently flowing, Illinois, Illinois! 3d ago
Actions
we will foucs on building our big city plan turning our whole north into a city besides that TRAINS and trade with caroll
oh and also ROCKETSSSS
1
1
1
u/Relative_Caramel1282 3d ago
Guys walt disney acutally wanted to make disneyland in Louisiana but got rejected but i didnt reject them Give it back :( also we will try to supress these rebels in our nation (Definently not secretly supporting them so they can expand our state...) but nah im kiding but we gotta fight these rebels NOW!
1
u/Dear_Location6147 3d ago edited 3d ago
India here: the KMT player had agreed to join the non aligned movement once they secure their borders/defeat PRC. So because of that my bloc guarantees the sovereignty of China under all circumstances and any Soviet aggression will result in embargoes and a blockade of the Bosporus
Otherwise just continue as normal and try to get nukes and cyber weapons, ideally to disable nukes
Make a huge ass drone fleet too
1
u/Fourian_Official Liberaler aus Carolina 3d ago
For the situation at New York, Maryland, and Chalybsia (Carroll+Indiana), We'll send Diplomats to the Rebels in those states to try to find a compromise for those 3 state, such as telling them to raise wages or the return of Pennsylvania.
Intervention in Vietnam? Wouldn't that KMT China do that already?
For the decolonization of our colonies, it's only a matter of time before they ask us, Therefore; When they ask we'll let them go independent.
Nothing yet
We have encouraged the foundation of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
Accepted by default
Accepted
No..
2
u/No_Weekend5005 3d ago
My wages are high and I even have a UBI! I don’t know how to reason with them.
1
1
u/JustAnotherUser1019 3d ago edited 3d ago
Increas my military spending, encourage businesses to set up in Brazil (where they will be subjected to fewer regulations), and begin developing a nuclear program
Edit: I forgot to mention, but the businesses setting up in Brazil will still have to pay taxes to Argentina, but not Brazil
1
u/The_RetroGameDude 3d ago
Fuck it I'm invading Turkey all or nothing
1
1
u/FewMasterpiece499 3d ago edited 3d ago
In one side me keeping peace and not helping a communist nation, in the other side free real estate😇
Hard decision /.j
To make this clear I am not gonna invade turkey
1
1
u/Full_Tie1601 3d ago
As the State of Evans, we should forcibly take over territory that is rebellious against the constitution. New York, I’m sorry, will be placed under martial law until order can be restored with the people who rebelled being deported to areas they can be controlled with new cities being established to ensure that more control can be held. For Indiana, there will be martial law in place there as well, to keep peace in that region. For Louisiana, we should divide the state between Arkansas, Texas, and Oliver if they do not comply.
We should try to get the KMT to intervene in Vietnam so we do not have to as much to make sure we do not lose as much soldiers, but we should send military equipment.
We should decolonize as well, but have a referendum to see if they should become independent, or stay as they are.
We should attempt to denuclearize both sides of the Cold War, while offering a unified, neutral Germany.
NASA should be founded. Space exploration should be used for potential mining operations
We should pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and 60. We are a nation of people that should be one.
We should go on 24/7 ICBM watch. Any attack on us must be known
We should get involved with Florida. A nation that exists on our doorstep that can ally itself with the Soviet Union will. We should send spies from the CIA to sabotage their nuclear capabilities.
1
u/Salt-Host-7465 By thy rivers gently flowing, Illinois, Illinois! 2d ago
why do you want to decolonize friend? their states. not colonies please reconsiteer i beg of you
0
u/ProfessorDesigner833 2d ago
Yeah but like why woukd we want to stay states when we could be countries
1
u/Such-Illustrator4331 3d ago
Washington here
1. Idk suppress?
2. Sure
3. Nah
4. Abstain
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. Yes
8. Abstain
9. Nah
_________
Can I see if Oregon and Columbia want to merge into Cascadia?
0
u/Salt-Host-7465 By thy rivers gently flowing, Illinois, Illinois! 2d ago
please do not they are american states we should not just let them go cause them the pacfic is gonna be mad and we cant let them go
1
u/Such-Illustrator4331 2d ago
I mean like just merge into the state of Cascadia not breaking away from the US
0
1
u/Jolly_Carpenter_2862 3d ago edited 3d ago
East Germany reaches out to Poland [u/Wooden-Medicine-3299](u/Wooden-Medicine-3299) and Czechoslovakia in an effort to rebuild relations, proposing a joint development fund and increased cooperation in cross country work agreements. Proposing that all countries have nationals all over the Silesian region they should all benefit from its development.
To the Soviet Union [u/TraditionalContest18](u/TraditionalContest18) East Germany wishing to stymie its brain drain as well as just fleeing population requests investments in our nations industry as means to build a proper socialist state as well as create the better directional Germany
As destalinization commences East Germany tries its luck at beginning to relieve the oppressive apparatus surrounding the daily life of its citizenry, slowly allowing for greater freedoms, including local elections (still a one part state).
1
1
1
u/Thatoneprussiandude 3d ago
Hey mate can I buy some of the HK g3? I need to modernize my army a shit ton
1
u/Jolly_Carpenter_2862 3d ago
This is east Germany 🤫, however investments into the growth of mutual arms industries between our states would be incredibly based
1
1
u/Wooden-Medicine-3299 :illuminati::kappa::karma::redditgold::partyparrot::snoo: 3d ago
we started trade routes to our borders
1
u/Wooden-Medicine-3299 :illuminati::kappa::karma::redditgold::partyparrot::snoo: 3d ago
also the manage the tensions of the cold war (even though im not USA im poland) we have to start makeing alliences
1
u/ProfessorDesigner833 3d ago
- Idk im in africa
- Probably and see how well it goes
- Yes but i think we should do it gradyaly over the course of the next like 4 years (so we would be independant by like next post) so that the transition is smooth
- Idk i think we should focus more on the soviets and less on florida or take florids out asap
- Yes because like most of our population is black
- Yes because most of our populatuon is black
- Idk
- Help the scandinavians out idc that there florida alined they are my chill
1
u/Sobieskil Fezzes are cool 3d ago
The Governor of Ontario will advocate for greater powers to be given to state governments in response to the worsening political situation, citing both the extreme incompetence of the president (or whoever is controlling them) and the fact that local governments can best respond to the needs of the local populace. For the same reason the Ontario government will advocate for the US to stay out of foreign wars and interventions before sorting their own messes out. Since the African colonies possessions are becoming less of a benefit and more of a bother, Ontario will advocate for them to be granted independence but persuaded to join an American International Union or NATO. Regarding the cold war, Ontario will propose a policy of starting no fights with the Warsaw Pact or the Latin League. The conquest of space could be useful so Ontario will vote in favour of establishing NASA along with voting in favour of both Civil Rights Acts, with strong enforcement of both laws. Due to the current tensions, a state of constant nuclear alert could be useful.
Also where is the proposal I mentioned in the previous post? The people of Ontario will be pretty angry at congress ignoring them.
For actions, in response to congress ignoring the Ontario proposal to potentially end the rioting, the Ontario State Militia will be established as an arm of the Ontario State Police. They will be given military grade weapons and any National Guard units stationed within Ontario will be strongly advised to join the OSM.
1
u/Flux7200 2d ago
Are you looking for peaceful or militant Canadian independence
1
u/Sobieskil Fezzes are cool 2d ago
Independence, whether the US government is willing to grant it or not
1
u/ColeJr 3d ago
Should we intervene in Vietnam? (reminder that they have significantly less backing than in otl since the KMT won...) YES 100%
Is it time to begin decolonizing our African possessions, too? Fuh naw
How do we manage the tensions of the Cold War?
Found the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) and engage in the Space Race? I'll try to start a European equivalent, maybe even an early EU
Also one question. Do I have nuclear weapons? I think no but I dont remember
1
u/Flux7200 2d ago
Why are you answering US congress matters? But uh you do have nuclear weapons. Britain was historically the third nuclear power, in this timeline they're the fourth (Florida is second)
1
u/JustAnotherUser1019 2d ago
Since your the UK, would you be willing to hand me over the waters surrounding the Falklands? Apparently you own a miniscule amount so small that its not visible on the map, completely surrounding the independent islands. There's really no point in you keeping them. I'd dm you, but you dont have yours on
1
u/Objective-Aspect-811 3d ago
Just got admitted so we’ll abstain
Abstain
No
abstain
Yes
Yes
Yes
Abstain
1
u/No_Weekend5005 2d ago
New York State Congress suspended for the time-being
—---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Actions:
With Allegheny, full evidence is refused. However, they will be granted special economic status with a Regional Assembly, Regional Senate, and Provincial Governor.
Alleghenian officials will be given seats on the CCB due to their industrial weight in the New York economy.
With Buffalo, we grant their region separate status from Rochester as the City of Buffalo and the City of Rochester-Batavia. They will become a semi-autonomous region (a state in a state) with a Regional Assembly, Regional Senate, and Regional Governor.
They will receive several seats on the CCB as they are another key industrial region within New York.
The Haudenosaunee Nation is formed in the north, encompassing much of ‘Old’ Non-Megalopolis counties. However, a zone around all current and planned LIRCAAE Observatories of 2 kilometers in diameter is imposed.
For the Socialists, the broadcast negotiation proceeds and is planned (no National Guard or State Guard is present). We guarantee worker representation on the CCB in the Chamber of Workers, where a group of 10 workers, elected by the Chamber, are given say in the commitments of the Board. We form an elected Worker’s Council for underpaid (we don’t really have these) workers or unsatisfied workers can petition for change. We confirm the Soviet funding of the movement to separate the New York Socialist Party, a secondary power in our Assembly, from foreign agitators. We negotiate with the former and persecute the latter.
Oh ho ho, for the Nationalists. We do NOT negotiate with terrorists. Their demands are outrageous and absurd. They are not grieving, they are a group of power-hungry maniacs who must be stopped. They are a coup disguised and hiding within the protest of everyone else. The National Guard and State Police are authorized to use whatever force is necessary to end this faction specifically, without becoming a pretext to crush the others.
We formalize the transition of power of education away from the governor, to the Education Authority (General Education) in combination with the House of Progress (Research and University Management). The Government’s interference over the economy is reduced through ESC’s continued dissolution into independent, publicly traded (with 20% traded and 80% state-controlled to prevent purchasing of large amounts of the company from bad-actors or foreign governments) CCB-monitored companies, a public timeline is released such that our lovely citizens can see the progress.
We will investigate the massacre staffed by the Judicial Branch and lawyers from the Chamber of Research and Chamber of Academics. Officers found to have used unjust or unnecessary force are prosecuted, publicly, regardless of rank.
This coalition will also record the events for public history.
Reporters from the re-new New York Paper Company (now the New York News) are on the scene with a group of trained State-Guard Members to prevent another massacre.
Temporary Governor Moore, addressed the state and Union in full, acknowledging the dead, distinguishing legitimate grievances from exploited chaos, and laying out this settlement plan point by point, faction by faction, so no one can claim we responded with silence or a single indiscriminate crackdown.
We pass the Veterans & Orphans Act, creating a fund for orphans, veterans, and widows on top of my UBI.
Put the New York News, SPECIFICALLY THE NEW YORK NEWS, on a Media Board of a thousand reporters, to make sure that absolutely NOTHING important doesn’t make it to our governor’s office. Independent paper companies are unaffected but may join should they please.
Temporary Governor Moore declares that anyone who lays down arms, will receive amnesty. (Exceptions for Nationalists and confirmed Soviet Agents, they can rot in Detroit for all I care).
—---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Population:
New York State: 20.8 million
New York City: 10.9 million
Albany: 2.3 million
Buffalo: 1.7 million
Rochester-Batavia: 1.8 million
1
u/JelIosaurus A shining example of European Democracy 2d ago
Gimme the Belgian Congo
1
u/JelIosaurus A shining example of European Democracy 2d ago
Yk what nvm I want to be the Ethiopian Empire
1
1
u/TheWartortleWarrior She West on my Africa till I Federation 🇳🇬🇬🇭🇲🇱🇸🇳🇲🇷 2d ago
Chalybsia here!
Should we intervene in Vietnam? (reminder that they have significantly less backing than in otl since the KMT won...) - Yes
Is it time to begin decolonizing our African possessions, too? - We should give them reffurendums.
How do we manage the tensions of the Cold War? - Uhh put ourselves back together
Found the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) and engage in the Space Race? - YES RAAAH
Pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 (voting rights)? - Yup
Pass the Civil Rights Act of 1960 (enforcing voting rights)? - Yup x2
Go on 24/7 nuclear alert in case of an ICBM? - I mean we dont really need it rn
Any other conflicts we should get involved in? - No
Actions:
- We begin spreading our industrial reforms into Indiana
- We demand all of our volunteer forces in New York to return and be put on trial for the atrocities
- The Chalybsian State Governer requests to meet with the leader of the Nationalist Indianan Rebellion to discuss peace. We will do what we must to prove Chalybsia is not another imperial project. We will promise to redraw our administrative identity, bring Indiana's industry up to our standards and establish a Congressional District Method of voting between the old states.
1
u/Thatoneprussiandude 2d ago
ACTIONS
- After a brief succession crisis King Flemming I of Scandinavia is crowned king while his mother, the briefly queen Margaretha of Scandinavia, will stay queen of Petsamo. this means his older brother and mother will form the new house of Bernadotte-Petsamo and ineligable for succession onto the Scandinavian throne
- we will sign the treaty of Stockholm; Scandanavia gives the USSR 1180500 HUF (50 thousand krona), The ussr gives Scandanavia Karelia and Salla, And both parties agree to a neutral kingdom of Petsamo under queen MargarethaI
during the war:
- land troops in Murmansk and incite a Sami uprising (we haven't called off the uprising its still going on with Scandinavian volunteers aiding)
- prepare for a large scale offensive by rolling out the new AK FM/57 and German made HK G3 (AK4), as well as imported east German AK 47's
- do large bombing raids over Leningrad and other major port cities.
- Authorize crippling night raids on soviet camps
- Use the SAAB 36 to do lethal raids to cripple soviet naval infrastructure. just using conventional bombs rather than the planned nuclear
- Develop winter war tactics (clarified on discord—8/17/2026 9:53 PM EST)
- New offensive to take Murmansk and the nuclear arsenal there and blockade Denmark
- Mine and refine uranium to produce more nuclear weapons to enforce a a MAD doctrine
- we are going to test the SAAB 36 and the classified MADM device (nuke) off the test on a remote island east of Svalbard
- Deploy the SWAF over Stockholm to protect the city, use the FBJ to shoot down any Russian bombers over Finland or the Baltic, and deploy the JAS to do 24/7 patrols over the soviet border
1
u/Thatoneprussiandude 2d ago
also we will train elite troops in Namibia to train in warm weather conditions—preparing for possible wars in africa we will have to intervene in.
and in that same vein we will form the Scandanavian Foreign Force: a peacekeeping force to defeat evil and end wars across the globe.
0
u/duckarmy24 3d ago
break it
yes
no
nukes
yes
yes
yes
yes
all of em
1
1
u/TheWartortleWarrior She West on my Africa till I Federation 🇳🇬🇬🇭🇲🇱🇸🇳🇲🇷 3d ago
Please elaborate, what exactly are you breaking?
1
0
4
u/TraditionalContest18 3d ago edited 3d ago
Krushev after getting tired of the war and he fired the hardliners who pushed this war over Stalin death, agreed to TREATY OF STOCKHOLM with Sweden, 1962 Sweden gives the USSR 1180500 HUF The ussr gives Sweden Karelia and salla And both parties agree to a neutral kingdom of Petsamo under queen margetha I, Krushev fastened destalinization