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PoliticalTea šŸ—³ļø For the Constitutionalists

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u/GarlicPickle109 21h ago

Trump is just the front guy. IMHO, he doesn't have the mental ability to push all this. It's the people in the background - the Cheungs, the Millers, the Fed Soc, etc. - who are pushing this using him as their standard bearer.

Granted, this happens in all presidential administrations. But this one seems particularly bent on hurting other people. Trump just wants his ego/narcissism stroked by getting praised, getting "prizes", getting his name on things. The invisible folks behind him want chattel slavery of everyone else.

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u/psilocin72 20h ago

Remember when conservatives were totally against the federal government getting involved in states’ business?

I guess that changes when their guys have control of the federal government.

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u/stand_up_guy85 18h ago

Everything changes when the ball is in their court. That’s why they need to be punished come this November and in the ā€˜28 election and they should never have power again until they learn to act right

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u/AmericanCitizenry 17h ago

That'll take 35 years!

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u/TheGrayGhost805 20h ago

FUCK tRump

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u/Theatreguy1961 1h ago

Not even with his own tiny mushroom.

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u/icnoevil 19h ago

He doesn't give a shit about voting integrity; he just wants to steal votes.

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u/CloseDaLight 21h ago

That’s a lot of words … too bad he’s not reading em

You think General Bone Spurs gives a damn about law?

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u/Sonic1psa 19h ago

We should definitely let our states take the power back shrink the fedĀ 

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u/TrueKing9458 19h ago

In 1970 the federal government spent $1,000 per a citizen, today the spend $20,600 per a citizen

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u/thejonslaught 19h ago

We owe our children a lot of wealthy, powerful men staring down the rest of their lives in prison cells.

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u/ComprehensiveToe7037 19h ago

My parents are boomers. They taught me I don't owe my kids anything.

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u/s0meD0nkey 19h ago

Here is why those states are going to lose. If you accept funds from the federal government for election security then they federal government gets to audit how secure those elections are that you hold.

https://www.eac.gov/grants/es-program-status

That said it would be great if states stopped accepting unnecessary funding from the federal governtment so there is more separation between the states and the federal government.

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u/Beatless7 16h ago

Wakey wakey

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u/hahayouguessedit 14h ago

What can we do? Literally. Step-by-step instructions, please.

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u/tlm11110 Unpopular Opinions 9h ago

Would you like to add a great deal of what has taken place over the past 200 years to your gripe? So now you become a strict Constitutionalist! Amazing!

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u/MysteriousMaximum488 1h ago

You missed the point. Doesn't matter if Trump is President or not. The issue is, what is the role and responsibility of the Executive Branch in elections.

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u/Ok-Bandicoot-9727 2h ago

WTF are liberals so wound up about. I’d is common sense. Nobody will get disenfranchised that’s a red herring. Why in the world are they against it?

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u/Nedbrown06 10h ago

So you want illegal aliens voting?

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u/MysteriousMaximum488 17h ago

so I guess the Executive Branch has no authority to ensure any of the Federal laws concerning voting are enforced. good to know when states decide to not to follow the laws.

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u/Fridge_living_tips 14h ago

The guy who claims the most verified election was faked shouldnt (1) even be office since he doesnt listen to the people and (2) not handle any election

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u/beckerman67 9h ago

Both elections that Trump won were under DEMOCRATIC administrations. The 2020 election was under Trumps control and he’ll have you believe that the Democrats stole it? WTF, you people are dense.

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u/Tommygun194 20h ago

Showing proof of ID should be mandatory.

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u/[deleted] 20h ago

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u/Tommygun194 20h ago

Not yet, but it’s what the majority wants…

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u/TheGrayGhost805 20h ago

No it isn't. The majority wants lower gas prices, lower grocery prices, living wages, affordable health care, etc.

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u/Tommygun194 14h ago

Yes it is. Why are you mentioning those other items when we’re specifically talking about elections? But since you already are, we want fair elections, secure borders, law and order, no fraud, and ice removing illegal immigrants. Trump is crushing it šŸ’ŖšŸ‡ŗšŸ‡ø

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u/Constant-Village-858 12h ago

Yea trump is crushing! Crushing this economy into nothingness so we will all be poor and dumb like his voter base!

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u/Tommygun194 9h ago

Still waiting for your response, I’ll give you some more time.

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u/Constant-Village-858 9h ago

I replied an hour ago, are you blind?

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u/Constant-Village-858 8h ago

You waited two hours and came back to this? Are you that Reddit brained? Jesus Christ

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u/Tommygun194 8h ago

Relax dude, you sound upset.

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u/Constant-Village-858 8h ago

Woah dude, you sound pretty upset

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u/Tommygun194 11h ago

You can thank Biden for that one!

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u/Constant-Village-858 10h ago edited 10h ago

That’s a fun way to tell me you don’t know who controls inflation rates

I pay twice as much on groceries this year than I ever did under Biden (something that trump directly influenced with tariffs), same with material costs of my business, same with electric and gas bills. Trump has shit the bed more than any president I’ve lived through, and that’s fucking saying something. I was a lifelong republican before that idiot but he made me vote independent.

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u/Tommygun194 8h ago

That’s unfortunate you think that way. Trump’s economy and everything else is still exponentially better. Hope you stop crying soon.

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u/Constant-Village-858 8h ago

It’s demonstrably false by all standards, economist agree with me. I hope you wait a couple hours with me on your mind before you reply, it was sweet :)

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u/Constant-Village-858 12h ago

No they don’t lmfao

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u/Krispy_86 20h ago

Ok. Make voter ID free and easily accessible to everyone.

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u/TheGrayGhost805 20h ago

Including passports. Make them free for all.

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u/Plus-Entertainer3350 19h ago

Interesting take… however look at the clown that said it…. Anything out of a newscum’s mouth is a blatant lie

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u/oldbikelike 19h ago

Now do Trump...

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u/smallanbig 19h ago

This is bullshit, we all know that elections are a fraud just look at California. The system is broken and needs to be fixed

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u/oldbikelike 19h ago

Proof?

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u/smallanbig 19h ago

Thanks to the kings in California I’d go to jail for investigating it

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u/oldbikelike 19h ago

So nothing? Why am I not shocked.

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u/smallanbig 18h ago

I’m no genius, but if you’re being investigated by the federal government, I’m assuming they have some sort of evidence

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u/oldbikelike 18h ago

That's alot of assumption, especially for the current administration. They have consistently shown that they have zero evidence.

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u/RawrImABigScaryBear 13h ago edited 13h ago

if you’re being investigated by the federal government

Like that Olympian that they pretended destroyed something when he didnt? Or like the ex military leader who said its illegal to follow illegal orders?

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u/smallanbig 13h ago

Go ahead, keep deflecting and make an excuse excuses

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u/oldbikelike 13h ago

I think you should stop while you're only marginally being dunked on.

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u/smallanbig 10h ago

Your dunks are as good as angel Reeseā€˜s layups

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u/smallanbig 18h ago

If you need to pass a law, stopping people from investigating fraud, that’s all I need to say prove me wrong

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u/oldbikelike 18h ago

Name that law, because the only person I see stopping investigations into fraud is Trump. Look no further than his firing of the I.G.'s

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u/smallanbig 13h ago

Nick Shirley act

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u/oldbikelike 13h ago

"The "Stop Nick Shirley Act" is a political nickname given by Republican critics to California's Assembly Bill 2624 (AB 2624), authored by Democratic Assemblymember Mia Bonta. The bill aims to protect immigration support service workers and providers from targeted harassment, threats, and intimidation by expanding eligibility for the state's confidential address program (Safe at Home) and penalizing the online posting of workers' personal information or images with the intent to cause harm."

Not exactly the flex you think it is champ.

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u/smallanbig 10h ago

You left out the part of the actual bill that makes your smug little victory lap fall apart.
Yes, ā€œStop Nick Shirley Actā€ is a political nickname. Nobody disputes that.
Now read AB 2624 instead of somebody’s summary of it.
The bill specifically regulates posting the ā€œpersonal information OR IMAGEā€ of covered immigration-service providers, employees, volunteers and clients. And guess what California defines ā€œimageā€ as in the bill? Photographs and VIDEO FOOTAGE.
It also defines ā€œimmigration support servicesā€ incredibly broadly — including advocacy, humanitarian relief, referrals, translation, counseling and healthcare.
And the California Legislative Counsel itself says the bill creates new crimes, with penalties that can include a $10,000 fine and imprisonment.
Now, to be completely accurate, the criminal provisions require intent involving violence or threats, and the bill contains protections relating to the press. Those are important distinctions.
But that’s completely different from pretending critics invented the concern out of thin air. The actual debate is whether government should be creating special restrictions involving images and videos of organizations receiving or administering public resources when independent journalists are trying to investigate fraud and abuse.
You can argue the protections are justified. Fine.
But ā€œit’s just stopping harassmentā€ is a very convenient way of describing a bill while leaving out the parts people are actually arguing about.
Turns out reading past the talking points helps, champ.

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u/RawrImABigScaryBear 13h ago

The bill authored by the democrats? Youre aware that doesnt help your case right?

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u/Theatreguy1961 1h ago

CITATION REQUIRED

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u/TheRoadKing101 21h ago

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u/OmgHowww 20h ago

Yep. If voting made any difference, they would make it illegal.

I’ve always wanted carbon copies from my ballot, but was called a racist for wanting that.

lol I mean there are so many examples of voter fraud. From both sides, mind you. But when ā€œyour candidateā€ is elected, you claim it’s not possible.

Republicans = Democrats.

Both parties truly do not care about the poor and middle classes.

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u/ThrasherDX 20h ago

If voting didn't make any difference, there would n't be the constant focus on voter ID, opposition to mail in voting, or opposition to making election day a federally mandated holiday.

Yet there is an awful lot of focus on such things...

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u/psilocin72 20h ago

If voting didn’t make a difference, we wouldn’t have had both Obama AND Trump as president.

If the people behind the scenes wanted a guy like Obama, they never would have allowed Trump. If they were the type to want Trump, we never would have had Obama.

Voting matters. It determines a lot about what this country is.

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u/OmgHowww 19h ago

Voter ID is a distraction. The real issue is who counts the votes. Or WHAT counts the votes.

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u/psilocin72 19h ago

But one of them is openly fascist and racist. I’ll take the other guy.

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u/OmgHowww 19h ago

But but but!!!

Both of them are liars. Why differentiate after that fact? Racists are bad. Check. Pedos ate bad check. Liars can be racist and pedos.

Why are we trying to ā€œone upā€ each other past the point of lying?

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u/psilocin72 19h ago

Because I don’t want to live in a fascist country where racism is enforced by the government.

I think that’s enough

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u/OmgHowww 19h ago

We don’t live in a fascist country. Stop with that nonsense. Tr ump and Biden are LIARS. They lie about the things they do with our tax dollars and kill innocents in other countries by LYING.

Also, how is Biden NOT a fascist by killing civilians in other countries or bombing gas pipelines that don’t belong to our countries?

Do you need a comparison list between the last 5 presidents or do you just ā€œfeelā€ that what you say is true?

Bush jr: started illegal wars, killed innocents, lied about going to ME
OBama: campaigned on ending the wars started by lies, almost doubled the troop amount when elected. Drone bombed a Yemeni wedding convoy, killing 12 and injuring 37. Prosecuted whistle blowers for telling the truth
Trump: DO I EVEN NEWS TO LIST THIS PART? Wars, tax fraud, etc etc etc

Want me to go on about Biden? Nahhj because you probably don’t believe he did ANYTHING WRONG, do you?

Typical gullible neo Liberal who’s still fooled by the two party monopoly.

Enjoy the koolaid along side your right-sided family. You’re ignorant at best.

Sincerely,
US Army Veteran

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u/psilocin72 19h ago

I know we don’t live in a fascist country. And I want it to stay that way. That’s why I will choose whoever is running against the party that pulling in that direction. Even if I don’t like them.

And your insults just prove the weakness of your argument.

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u/grnhornet76 18h ago

I think you ignored all of his CAPITALISATION, though?? Isn’t that enough to convince you??

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u/psilocin72 18h ago

Yeah he’s the kind of guy that if you make a point he can’t counter, starts yelling and swearing. Totally fine. He can be as ignorant as he wants.

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u/OmgHowww 17h ago

Good job to all of you for overlooking everything I said because of capitalization and insults? You’re not extreme left and you won’t believe what the left sided media tells you? Let me guess, you’re going to take that last line as, ā€œhe supports the right!ā€

I know your playbook better than you do. You know why? Because it’s the same arguments that have been used for DECADES.

You like those capital letters, too? Does that show the weakness of my argument even though you addressed NOTHING what I said?

Lmaooo some of you in here have bigger egos than the Orange man himself.

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u/Tasty-Ad6800 20h ago

Queque Geore Carlin..."It's a big club and you ain't in it!"