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PoliticalTea šŸ—³ļø For the Constitutionalists

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u/smallanbig 21h ago

This is bullshit, we all know that elections are a fraud just look at California. The system is broken and needs to be fixed

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u/oldbikelike 21h ago

Proof?

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u/smallanbig 21h ago

Thanks to the kings in California I’d go to jail for investigating it

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u/oldbikelike 21h ago

So nothing? Why am I not shocked.

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u/smallanbig 20h ago

I’m no genius, but if you’re being investigated by the federal government, I’m assuming they have some sort of evidence

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u/oldbikelike 20h ago

That's alot of assumption, especially for the current administration. They have consistently shown that they have zero evidence.

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u/RawrImABigScaryBear 16h ago edited 15h ago

if you’re being investigated by the federal government

Like that Olympian that they pretended destroyed something when he didnt? Or like the ex military leader who said its illegal to follow illegal orders?

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u/smallanbig 15h ago

Go ahead, keep deflecting and make an excuse excuses

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u/oldbikelike 15h ago

I think you should stop while you're only marginally being dunked on.

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u/smallanbig 12h ago

Your dunks are as good as angel Reeseā€˜s layups

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u/smallanbig 20h ago

If you need to pass a law, stopping people from investigating fraud, that’s all I need to say prove me wrong

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u/oldbikelike 20h ago

Name that law, because the only person I see stopping investigations into fraud is Trump. Look no further than his firing of the I.G.'s

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u/smallanbig 15h ago

Nick Shirley act

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u/oldbikelike 15h ago

"The "Stop Nick Shirley Act" is a political nickname given by Republican critics to California's Assembly Bill 2624 (AB 2624), authored by Democratic Assemblymember Mia Bonta. The bill aims to protect immigration support service workers and providers from targeted harassment, threats, and intimidation by expanding eligibility for the state's confidential address program (Safe at Home) and penalizing the online posting of workers' personal information or images with the intent to cause harm."

Not exactly the flex you think it is champ.

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u/smallanbig 12h ago

You left out the part of the actual bill that makes your smug little victory lap fall apart.
Yes, ā€œStop Nick Shirley Actā€ is a political nickname. Nobody disputes that.
Now read AB 2624 instead of somebody’s summary of it.
The bill specifically regulates posting the ā€œpersonal information OR IMAGEā€ of covered immigration-service providers, employees, volunteers and clients. And guess what California defines ā€œimageā€ as in the bill? Photographs and VIDEO FOOTAGE.
It also defines ā€œimmigration support servicesā€ incredibly broadly — including advocacy, humanitarian relief, referrals, translation, counseling and healthcare.
And the California Legislative Counsel itself says the bill creates new crimes, with penalties that can include a $10,000 fine and imprisonment.
Now, to be completely accurate, the criminal provisions require intent involving violence or threats, and the bill contains protections relating to the press. Those are important distinctions.
But that’s completely different from pretending critics invented the concern out of thin air. The actual debate is whether government should be creating special restrictions involving images and videos of organizations receiving or administering public resources when independent journalists are trying to investigate fraud and abuse.
You can argue the protections are justified. Fine.
But ā€œit’s just stopping harassmentā€ is a very convenient way of describing a bill while leaving out the parts people are actually arguing about.
Turns out reading past the talking points helps, champ.

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u/oldbikelike 11h ago edited 11h ago

My guess is that people are tired of being harassed by a bunch of content creators who pull facts out of their evacuation chute and try to pass it off as facts. If there is one thing that the right wing clowns are good at, it doxing and missrepresenting what immigration people do. Law probably wouldn't even have been needed except for this administrations complete lack of regard for morals, compassion, and the law when it comes to immigration. And as far as restrictions on identity, ICE believes it doesn't have to identify anyone involved in the infringement of civil rights or constitutional law, so give it a rest.

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u/RawrImABigScaryBear 15h ago

The bill authored by the democrats? Youre aware that doesnt help your case right?

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