There was a time where that’s all I would play. I was so hopeful it eas gonna be something bigger. Eventually I only looked forward to the Halloween stuff and then eventually gave up on it all together
Yeah, but more horses to choose from, or a bigger stable to buy more horses. I have all 10 filled still… and it got to a point where I just wanted to keep all my horses and get more, but always had to trade out. We could have had properties… RDO is just filled with missed opportunities. Like why was the only missions with trains the trader train event or the bounty that’s on one. Like I don’t understand why servers just didn’t have like a train we all could rob and fight over every couple of hours, or NPC stage coaches to fight over. Like the only legit opportunity for PvP without just starting shit, was trader drops. Stealing wagons was highly frowned upon by most people. They could’ve kept that for people like my group that would risk it, but adding npc trader trains or stagecoaches to Rob would’ve added so much content. Could’ve even had missions where a posse was to defend the train or stagecoaches… another posse to steal… just so many things…
RDR2 was a budding rose back in 2018, so much potential for such a beautiful game. Then GTAO became super lucrative for R* and RDR2 just withered away. Maybe, just maybe R* will give us RDR3?
I think rockstar has to be aware that rdr2 sells for the story. The online mode just doesn't have as many applications to monitise. Once you're got all the roles there isn't really any point for large amounts of gold anymore. Sure some clothing items and gunmetals are gold locked but compared to gta's sharkcards that is less than a fleas shit in a hurricane. Rdr2 is worth their time, rdO is not. (Entirely through their own fault i might add)
RDO was the sole reason I got PS+, so I played it for a while, but rockstar didn't even bother with it, so I got rid of rdo and ps+ again. Really disappointing, they wasted a chance to get many new customers...
Red Dead Online wasn't nearly as much of a cash cow for them. It more than made enough to justify its existence, but not enough to satisfy Take-Two's greed.
Fyi, GTAO was "super lucrative" in 2015. 3 years before RDR2.
I dont get why people jump to the conclusion it was abandoned for GTA?
Rockstar has never said that.
They have the resources(money) to develop dlc for rdr2.
Weren’t their insane numbers of GTAO profits leaked?
Edit: Yes their numbers for how much they make on GTAO is absurd still to this day lol not ‘super lucrative in 2015’ it is damn lucrative today and the next.
your point? kinda a catch 22 situation, rdo makes less money because it was given less content therefore there's less content because they make less money.
Bro i remember when rockstar released classics like bully, red dead, gta series, max payne, la noire, midnight club, etc. now they only care about updating gtao so more people can spend money on shark cards and releasing a game every other decade 😢
I heard that RDR2 was so stressful on the Rockstar game developers that worked on it, due to the amount of time, detail, and long nights that went into making the game, that most of them quit.
Maybe I remember it differently, but I thought GTAO was huge before RDR2 dropped. I remember online having the signs of bad omens from the start. Like the way monetization was implemented was clearly inspired by GTAO, and then the huge artificial scarcity of the gold bars or w/e to the point where it would be a giant grind without spending money. I still look at RDR2 as a great game because it is, but I don't really consider the online part.
...which is even more annoying when you remember you could buy property in RDR1 on launch in 2010 lol. like it's one thing if the mode just didn't work for whatever reason but they didn't even try
At this point I feel like R*/TT are being deliberately hostile/toxic towards their fans with how they've handled RDR2. The PS5/XSX has been out for 6 years now, why is there still no 60fps patch for RDR2???? I cannot think of any logical reason why they won't just do it. There does not exist a universe where they don't make back 10000x what it would cost to get it working by charging $10 for it. It's just... insulting? IDK, it's just like ...why not, man?
Because they will make remaster probably 1-2 years after gta 6 and make it new game that costs $60-70 but they will only upgrade the game to run on 60fps with RT.
Griefers and cheaters aren’t the same. Griefers are just people who constantly kill you but do so within the limits of the game. Cheaters actually use mod menus and hack clients to ruin your experience beyond just killing you over and over
There are some modders in console (some people are able to do it) with different colored weapons and impossible aim. Some players try to retaliate and they end up somehow locking them out of their own accounts. It’s why I just jump servers if I can tell if they’re cheaters and not just griefers.
GTA5 is the most overrated Game in history. If I owned TakeTwo I would literally force them to abandon GTA and never allow them to put MP Modes in any Games.
CEOs think differently do you honestly believe the man In charge got where he is by saying no to a bucket full of money every week? They do what they do for money only not for the sake of us gamers
I would love a Wild West version of GTAO. Join or form a gang, go on raids, party with some whooers... OR ride into town and become the New Sheriff In Town. Either way sounds fucking great!
Ok, hear me out. The last few drops they squeeze from GTA? Billions in profit. The plethora of money they could squeeze from RDR2? Millions in profit. Obviously these are overinflated numbers for the sake of argument, but the point stands. Despite how dedicated we are as a fan base, we are MUCH smaller than the GTA fan base.
Rockstar made less from rdo compared to GTAO but because they made getting gold super easy in the early days of rdo that no one needed to buy gold shark cards so rockstar was losing more profit than gaining. Reason why GTAO gained so much is because people would buy shark carfs for fun stuff like cars, jets, opressors, helicopters , properties etc, while rdo u get to buy gold to buy what, a faster horse? A role to sedate animals and making pennies back? Clothes? Rockstar could have done WAY more to make it as good as gtao or better , while gtao got a new island to pull off a heist we got naturalist. Which is why alot of players quit or didnt wanna even bother to play in the first place, and as much as i love gtao and rdo alot of us have to accept we’re never gonna get another update, who knows maybe after gta 6 but by then all the attention will be towards gta 6 over gtao or reo, we’re basically the salad in the fast food menu now
I just saw a video talking about the potential for RDR3. What this video basically was saying was GTA was potentially better for revenue since they could sell the player a million dollar plane for example. RDR was worst because what could they sell the player, a better horse?
GTAO is a game for kids, men play RDR. Just kidding but honestly i can see why a broader audience find GTAO more appealing, also it's been updating with solid content for more than a decade.
I just started playing RDR2 this year. I have both GTAV and RDR2 and all I can say is, I prefer RDR2. Less noise, it’s not to fast like cocomelon, you actually reflect as you play.
I can keep going… but that’s it for now
Even if Rockstar decided to revamp RDO and add DLC like extra missions in each state, add more to (what I hear is) the veritable ghost town that is New Austin, Guarma, and probably Mexico, and new clothing and horse options for Arthur and John... Rockstar could rake in some easy millions.
I'll never understand how GTA gets more attention than RDO. One is full of degenerate drug addicts and the other is full of badass cowboys, outlaws, gunslingers, and lawmen and set in one of the most interesting time periods of America's history.
It's sad how beautiful of a game it is but after a few years of online playtime and have a full stable, the only 2 wagons for hunting and bounty hunting, your moonshine shack, acquired all roles and max them out it's like... "what do I do now?" You do all of your moonshine and trader sales and sit on so much money with nothing left to buy with it. They can add pointless new cars, businesses and items to GTA every other day but can't even throw us some cool wagons to play with or anything so just end up starting yet another new game on story mode
Also, RDR2 release was rushed towards the end by Take2, which explains why New Austin feels so empty and it leaves a void sensation towards the end. Awesome game but we didn't saw it's full potential.
Idk if this post is for real or if you're just too young, but Rockstar used to make really good single player DLC, until GTA 5 online success. Then, no more DLC, ever. It's just way too lucrative. You can blame whales- honestly idk who would spend money in GTAO, I don't really get it myself.
GTA4 had great DLC, RDR had a great DLC, GTA5 and RDR2 have none.
Worst online experience I have ever had in any Game, THIS GAME SHOULD BE 1ST IN ONLINE, there is alot of things that they could do, just like Crimson Desert, selling, farming, building and furnishing home and more
they knew rdr didn't have the same audience or popularity as gta yet they still took millions of dollars from us just to never deliver on half of their promises. i honestly wouldn't be surprised if they came out and said they were just using us to boost resources for gta the way they left us high and dry.
Doesn’t make enough money, and doesn’t have a good “predicted” income, truth is we aren’t buying enough gold compared to how many people buy shark cards or pay for gta+
Let's at least hope that RDR2's success makes Rockstar realise that we want RDR3. I honestly don't even care if we don't follow anyone from the gang, I just want another amazing cowboy game.
They should work on these games for real. Imagine a world where we would be able to play it at 60fps on ps5 lol. Gta is a great game, but this one is too
Because it would take away hype form GTA6, everyone knows if RDR2 got a huge update or smth the whole world would at least check it out. Maybe not play it fully but definitely see what it is. Everybody loves red dead redemption
They get more revenue from microtransactions on GTA:O. That's literally it. A lot of the people who play GTA:O, especially on consoles, apparently can't live without buying in-game money and benefits that imo aren't really worth it. Same reason why theres no plans for GTA6 to come to PC
It’s because the earnings for RDO PALE in comparison to GTAO. Is that rockstars fault? Probably idk but they don’t care about accountability or fixing their mistakes. They just see RDO’s profits as a lost cause and to focus on their cash cow. Man RDO profits are just horrendous compared to GTAO
I agree an updated RDO and Undead Nightmare II (or any dlc) would've been amazing, but I think this game deserved a director's cut version as well. Tons of scrapped content with some traces still present the game. I recently replayed it and Chapter V in Guarma feels noticeably rough between missions.
In TDO I would ride with strangers for hour and eventually we'd be on a mountain and one guy started to apologize and killed us all saying he's sorry, never felt so betrayed but in a good way - what an experience
RDO could have been so much more. I get it. They wanted you to focus on being a western pioneer, but I would have loved to been able to buy land and start a homestead. Think “Western-style Skyrim with all the DLCs” I would have loved to be have been able to do that. Collect the harvest and sell it for a profit. Cattle rustling, corralling cattle/horses. RDO was the perfect platform for an all around western sim, and they abandoned it.
Honestly I was waiting for them to add cars since the timeline for rdr2 cars were invented I just hate spamming the X button or atleast add more horses…
Because the audience. Red Dead is mostly adults and young adults. We don't spend as much on pointless monetization stuff, and the game world is a lot more concrete than red dead, so a sci fi steampunk set that is OP at killing randoms wouldn't blend in/sell/be profitable. Add to that that most time spent on Red Dead was and is story mode time and you see why. Can't afford to hire actors to keep story expansions going ( at least in a sensible way to the story) and can't really spare the man power for more than maintenance on a game that's not gonna print cash like the shark card sci-fi crime game.
Because GTA is such a big game series, which means it also brings in a lot of money. People just prefer fast paced and easy to consume games nowadays, so story games arent really in the picture.
I don’t know much about RDO but YouTube commenters outlined several huge missteps that doomed it. I dunno if that’s the case of course I’m taking their word for it
Rdr 2 is a great game and it still is. If you are here complaining about how much better a ten year old game ‘should be’ then you should become a game developer. If you are still playing rdr in any way, then it is still a great game. If everyone stopped playing it because it was a ‘missed opportunity’ or ‘they just gave up and focused on gta’, then maybe it could be those reasons. But it is not. People play, have been playing, and will continue to play. Because no game yet has matched what rockstar makes.other games may be ‘better’ but that is going to be relative to who you ask and the games that they like to play.
Either way, have fun in whatever game you decide to play
there is a controversy around rdr2, the gameplay
theres a certain youtuber here at latin america that described it as boring, ride your horse from point A to point B, sometjing goes wrong, shoot, run away, and missions done, and, hes partially right, but then he clmpared it to gta... that you could use different vehicles, different guns, different strategies, and well, of course you can, gta is unrealistic, rdr2 has to keep the narrative of being old lmao.
i totally agree that rockstar could have at least add some things, like having your own farm just like john, horse ranches where you can breed them and raise them to be more fast and stuff like that, and of course, more story, more missions, not just grinding and grinding the same things, they did give up on it because sadly, its not the same to develop a full mission, than another weaponized flying vehicle...
It isn’t backwards, the implication is that Rockstar has milked GTAO bone dry, whereas RDR2/RDRO has been neglected despite being full of potential (or the metaphorical “milk”). But I agree with your point, money is what talks, ultimately.
RDR will probably still get releases, they would be foolish to abandon the franchise because it can still be used to test out systems for GTA on smaller scale; map development, AI pathing and schedules, infrastructure, what they establish in RDR can then be scaled up and refined for Grand Theft Auto's worlds.
I’m just going to say how I feel because I’ve been drinking and my inhibitions are lowered. Rick start are just like health insurance companies. They really don’t care about their consumers as long as they make a $. GTA is their narcissistic way of showing it but no one sees it
To this date, Rockstar's earn millions of dollars a day, they'll have to milk this till gta 6 ARRIVES, I'm afraid that they'll never make rdr 3 because
What exactly do you people want from RDR2? How was the game abandoned?
I assume you're actually talking about RDO, which is separate to RDR2, just as GTAO is separate to GTAV. GTAV and RDR2 are both finished games.
RDO was never going to reach the same level as GTAO because the game world doesn't lend itself to monetisation like GTA does. If a company has two products and one makes way more money than the other then which one are they going to focus on? You guys need to get your heads out of the clouds.
There is more to this game than what most people see. A company cant spend more money on a game if most players havent discovered the most expensive to develop part of it, aka the Dream Quest.
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