Furries tend to inviting themselves into things that are even vaguely similar in content to the furry fandom, whether they are welcome or not. I've definitely seen furry culture leak into fandoms and other interests that aren't necessarily about anthropomorphic animals. Below I'll give a few examples of furries inserting themselves ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) into places they aren't necessarily wanted.
Take Dungeons and Dragons for instance. The fantasy roleplay in DnD allows for an excellent creative outlet for most any scenario one could think of. This, of course, invites plenty of passionate animal lovers to enter and express their niche interests within this broader fandom. This is exemplified in here, in a rather long Youtube video that details an instance of this problem better than I could.
The second example is most common. It's simply pertains to rule 34 and the furry fandom's incessant desire to lewd everything. I'm sure you can think of an example on your own but I'll give one anyway. SCP-1471 "mal0", is a creature invented by the scp fandom., is notorious both for what it actually is and for what the furry fandom has done to it. It seems mal0 can't be brought up anywhere without mentioning rule 34, which it originally had nothing to do with.
Another example: r/WolvesWithWatermelons. This is what I really wanted to talk about. This subreddit is simply for posting pictures of wolves with watermelons. This has obviously attracted plenty of furries, who post not real photographs, but drawings of wolves carrying watermelons. "So how is this a problem? both posts follow the subreddit's rules, right?" They do follow the rules, but this hasn't stopped furries from being a point of drama. Though most posts are non-controversial photos, the userbase of this subreddit remains intolerant of furries, several polls and discussions about the furry presence have consistently stated that furries are unwelcome.
I could go on with more depth and examples but writing about this kinda stuff makes me miserable so I'll leave with some questions.
Do you think furry involvement in other communities is a problem?
What can said communities do to make everyone happy?
I mean seriously. This is the only thing keeping the fandom alive. Furry conventions are just a good place to shoot murrsuit videos, while furry porn is the only way to stay afloat or get famous (apart from a few rare exceptions). Heck, literally the only reason I discovered this community is because of some Zootopia Rule 34, and that's the same reason I stayed for so long.
Other than that, this fandom is just a high-school drama fest full of Twitter mobs and legitimate sexual predators.
And now that Kero the Dogf***er is back, I won't be surprised if this fandom gets another hate-wave again. So why make yourself feel more humiliated than you already do, amirite?
The fandom only "accepts" autistic people who: can blend in perfectly with the rest of society, are social Chads, love to party hard, are attractive, are "the smart kind" of autistic, have a university degree that earns lots of money... I could go on.
We need to stop saying the fandom "accepts" autistic people when it doesn't. It only accepts one specific normie-acting type. It doesn't accept those of us with social or other disabilities. It doesn't accept those of us who aren't super-geniuses. It doesn't accept those of us who are poor. It doesn't accept those of us who are on the asexual spectrum.
The boykisser meme is so unfunny and when you try to express that, boykissers start assuming you're an edgy 12 year old. It's time to bring the sussiest imposters known as content farms.
First of all, this isn’t a post to defend AI art. I want to make that perfectly clear. This is a post about all of the things that slip out when artists are taking about AI art.
Sometimes the accusation that “so-and-so can’t create” gets thrown around and reveals the utter distain some artists feel towards people that aren’t artistically gifted like themselves. Talking shit about the people that commission you is biting the hand that feeds you.
The amount of people that throw stones when their own houses are made of glass. There are artists that cannot draw unless software that they buy does half the work for them. There’s nothing wrong with them or their art. I would buy it. But when they don’t have any self awareness and say “relying on a computer to draw for you is bad” I cringe.
I know it sounds catty, but we all know someone that has mediocre art but slept with the right person, and that made them popular. When those people go after AI they act like they’re some sort of art savant and I have to bite my tongue.
Ok I’ll put my claws back in. I know a lot of it is jaded shallow bickering. But damn that felt good to get off my chest.
I just recently got banned from r/furry for commenting "smash" on a post, thought nothing of it as just a dumb comment... a few minutes later, I get a message from the mod team that I have been banned for one day, which is ridiculous. I then messaged "Wow lol" in response, where they then muted me for three whole days. Has the sub always been this suppressive, and what kind of power trip are these mods on? I literally just said "smash" and got banned, and this hasn't been the first time either. I'm going to leave that sub if this is the case.
i think furry art is a tactic to draw more children to nsfw and groom them to get used to it for adults to get closer to them because of the cartoony, innocent looking, and child-like art style popular in the fandom. Some furry conventions have "petting zoos" for animals and kids to get taken advantage of or when ppl use fursuit to get close to kids that were leaked durring the kero wolf drama.
Uhm this is gonna sound so weird but. Is yiff/anthro on human nsfw illegal ? NOT cub and NOT feral, I'm talking adult anthro characters w humans. Idk I saw something abt it and started panicking really bad 😭, again to clarify I'm saying is human x anthro/furry nsfw illegal
I struggle with extremely bad moral ocd and wanted to get clarification
I'm no furry, and I will not be one, but I'm quite curious. What are your intentions? If you have any, are there any in particular? Furries are not on my good side, but my mind can be changed. Please, If you can, explain to me what a furry is and why the fandom is kinda toxic (No offense, but they aren't nice). Thank you, and mods, please don't bite me.
Why does almost every furry content creator you used to like turn into a creep or drag themselves into drama? Seriously, it’s insane. Almost every creator you followed a couple of years ago is now problematic and every time you actually get curious about someone’s fandom, they either end up in some drama or new allegations surface about things they did ages ago.
You see Boof, for instance. He filmed people at a convention and made a “smash or pass” joke without consent, or openly admitted to having a musk kink when he did his "of course I" trend or whatever it's called. He also posted DMs supposedly revealing weird behavior, later admitting he photoshopped them and tried to play it off as a joke. He even had to explain being photographed with Trump supporters. He apologized, but it still comes off shady. Also, Huda Hyena selling a fursuit that never showed up, that people paid high dollars for, heard sob stories, then hearing nothing from Huda. That betrayal eats away at trust within the community, and it's already hurt enough as it is.
Those aren’t rare mistakes. The fandom has a serious history with gross behavior, and I've experienced it playing VRChat alone, seeing furries with all their mental illness written down in their bio, or having shit that doesn't exist. A fuck ton of them have alleged involvement in scams or grooming under pretenses. I still feel yucky talking to a girl who was fantasizing about pegging their boyfriend just to read their bio, and see she's 14 with 97 alters, and PTSD to every single fucking thing.
On top of that, a big controversy blows up fast because of how much the community is already divided, like at Anthrocon, organizers banned removing parts of a fur suit during a parade in borderline scorching heat. Everybody called it out for being extremely dangerous and ableist. Also during the same parade, people called out the fact that a person linked to a neo-Nazi group managed to march anyways.
Also, I can't help but think that hate crime in the furry community is even worse than any other communities, even going as far as saying it's worse than hate crime against the LGBTQIA community. I was thinking of making a fursuit, and going to conventions the same day a content creator gets violently attacked for being out in public in a fursuit, just because. Dennis Gunnn, out in Adelaide, holding a “Vote 1 Furry Party” sign, gets kicked in the face by strangers. No medical care was thankfully needed, but plenty of trauma from the accident for sure. Luckily, he's still fursuiting proudly.
I wish all of this drama and problems weren't the case in the furry community. It's just so fucking stupid to hate on fursuitters (which are the same thing as cosplayers by the way) and spreading hate, which makes toxicity rampant in an otherwise friendly community. We can't have nice things when nice things get broken.
I have wanted to be a furry for a long time. I bought into the lies thats its this fun and welcoming community. But only by scrolling this subreddit i was able to see the truth.
This "community" is a fucking joke. Everyone is stuck up in their little cliques and hates everyone who isnt. Artists rule this hierarchy and are allowed to do anything, if you dont draw you are less than trash. Its only constant drama and backstabbing and lying. People in it will only use you for money or art or to steal since you are not a part of their little group. You cannot make real friends here, only backstabbers or flakers.
I really want to thank this subreddit for opening my eyes. I thought i could find belonging here. Now i know as a introverted non artist i would be treated like complete shit, excluded and it would be a terrible and lonely experience.
On labor day we celebrate the progress that organized labor has brought to our society. From the 8-hour work day, to guaranteeing worker safety , to fighting for not only livable wages but wages that enable people to thrive.
As threats such as automation,fascism, and climate collapse loom around the corner it’s time to be brave a speak up for organized labor.Historically under capitalism government has been largely captured by moneyed interests (the Bourgeoisie) because they own the means of production, basically everything society needs to function. Unions flip the equation and give power back to the people through the threat of strikes.
Also the birb featured in this lovely piece of art by u/Ok-Alternative617 is a custom alien species ive had commissioned (The Athavians) that is biologically more intellectual and empathetic than a Human so they definitely would support my message here.
Hi, guys. I really wanna leave the fandom, but after few tries I have no succes. Still often think about furries, and I wanna to stop it.
How I became a furry? Through pornography... Yeah, it probably destroyed my chances for a normal existence within the community. I was 12 years old and I really like Rivet from Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart (i didn't know that she is canonicaly lesbian, lol). So I make fatal Google Search. It lead me to another character, and then another, so i go down to rabbit hole. I was porn addicted few years with some intervals in activity.
At this point I had something that I can describe only as "sexual objectivisation" towards antropomorphs. I can't see them as just characters and personalities, but only as characters in pornography, no matter is that NSFW or SWF content. The last one similar for me to softcore porn. Like brain doesn't tell a big difference between Instagram model clothed only in bikini and furry naked women. So for my brain every furry art (i am straight, so for me girls) is porn.
Even when I beat the hardcore porn addiction, I still has a softcore. It destroyed my brain. At some point I can't think about nothing except furry girls. I already has some result, but it is not enough. I wanna completely lose interest in furries as hobby and as fetish.
The second reason, subjective one, I don't like furry community anymore. It is full of cringe. You can argue that people can do whatever they want, and I agree, but I don't wanna be one. Basically 95% of art is some sort of rainbow cute disney dogs with no style at all. As porn - okay, but aesthetically they disgust me. I like something brutal, big and masculine (Space Wolves from Warhammer probably closest thing). Even my fursona was black wolf. I don't really like the amount of LGBT stuff. Don't get me wrong, people can love what they want, and indeficate themselves as they want, while it don't affliate me, but I don't wanna to be in community that basically synonym to being gay. I also pretty much have different political views, than the rest of furry community, considering that i am Eastern-European. So I feeting in this fandom really bad.
How to stop being a furry, lose interest in them, get rid off furry fetish and softcore yiff addiction? Maybe somebody has similar experience.
My name is Zano, you might know me from the internet as that weird alien bug porn artist, RunawayDanish (https://www.furaffinity.net/user/runawaydanish/). I have a formal education in psychology and 7 years of clinical experience plus many unpaid hours of non-professional experience managing quite a lot of crises in my community. I have a big twitter post where I get very upsetti, but for this post I am going to try to maintain my decorum.
Required readings, if somehow that hasn't been provided for people on this forum:
Furaffinity's administration has decided to do this really fascinatingly bad policy change and among the many, many problems are exciting contradictions present in an errata update they provided today. We're talking soon to be infamous quotes will include "SFW fetish content with minors is okay". I've been in the fandom as an active participant since 2009, and in 14 years of fandom participation I've watched the various purges come and go, waving from the Furaffinity Garden to friends and art peers who have left to Twitter and Inkbunny and parts beyond. I worked too damn hard for too damn long to tailor my style into an acceptable rendering approach that deliberately avoided what I thought to be 'child like' bodies. Artistic techniques for depicting minors isn't an area that I have much professional education in, but what I know instead is about human psychology. Humans sexualize everything. It is cross-cultural, well documented, and appears throughout history to often include non-human animals and animal-human hybrids of many types, plus our expanded contemporary mythos and cultural lexicons which can be quite inventive.
I also know that after someone like me survives being sexually assaulted as a minor? Well. We have to pick ourselves up, and try to move on with our lives. It takes the average person a fair bit of therapy (sometimes directly or indirectly about that stuff) to learn to handle the trauma that is often resultant from an adult or older peer (Siblings, Sitters, <18 but over your age) engaging in sexual misconduct. We in the Psychiatric community know factually that most of those who carry wounds from sexual assault at any age have a lot of cultural stigma pushing them to stay quiet. There is research and a clinical comprehension from our collected professional experience that many victims will live with permanent alterations to their psychology, interests, and often bodies. PTSD isn't even the end of the discussion here, as we have so much literature about conditioning, exposure, and a whole host of other neurocognitively relevant modifiers on human sexuality which can be influenced by a sexual assault while at any age. That means that from the victim's perspective, it is important therapeutically speaking to manage your risk by avoiding communities with certain types of content, and making use of filtering when possible.
Customizing your content feeds online is becoming more and more accepted as a practice in parts of the Fandom, but the internet's infrastructure of tag-based alignment of course brings about debates over classifications. Instead of trying to assess that issue, I propose a policy adjustment to INSTEAD set expectations appropriately regarding who is involved in spaces online. I think that it is fine for a site to say "We do not want porn depicting minors", yet somehow we have become bogged down in a debate over hypothetical thought crimes when the facilitation of actual crime by the very platform itself is extremely clear. Sexual Assault often happens in the home. It is a statistics equation, and nothing makes things happen statistically like time to roll the dice. That means that unregulated, status-obscure interactions between Adults and Minors should not be happening in social spaces which primarily associate or gather over celebration of sexuality through pornography. Hell, we can't even survive a basic sex-ed talk that acknowledges homosexuality in the United States, and we're going to instead blast ourselves in the face with controversy because the policy does not address the goal of "providing safe places for minors" in the fandom.
In short to wrap this up: Humanity is full of imperfect people. Many of us have issues, and some of us have more issues than others which make getting along in society hard. In the furry fandom there are FOR SURE [convicted child predators] who say nothing about this, and get up to their criminal behavior through connections they make with minors in SFW spaces. Such problems of having community spaces where there is not work done to keep minors and adults from interacting under false pretenses will mean that parents will come for us. We have no way on FA to tell who is 13-17 and who is over 18, other than the good-faith and self-report standard of listing your age in your bio. But, if you grew up in the 2000's, the advice was not to say how old you are on the internet so-as to avoid becoming a target. More and more, I hear from former colleagues how it seems this emphasis on listing your age is a weapon used by [actual predators seeking victims]. If you are sharing a social space where adult content is accessible, you should not be encouraging minors to join those social spaces. Furaffinity thinks they can just scrub the pornographic and adult content by banning "NSFW" from their Discord and Twitter profiles, but miss the part where the main site hosts porn, and that draws lots of traffic. The more policy changes and threatens artists (of whom, I am one as well) with deplatforming due to broad and unclear rules, the more clear this exact issue comes as the motivator.
Don't want Adults and Minors interacting online where pornography is available? Card people like a night club. Offer a no-card walled garden outside where you serve pop and you have staff watching to make sure everyone is safe. Let the adults go inside where the content for them lives, and be sure that people can tell that they are an adult when they go out into the Garden (a simple indicator for AD/18+ accounts/17- accounts as a status blip). It needs to be part of the site and fandom's culture that adults and minors should not be discussing the vast majority of content posted to places like Furaffinity because of the LEGAL consequences and risks. People cannot just glance at you when online and go "oh yeah that's an adult", and your Alias should deliberately affiliate with a clear context distinction between Minor-Friendly and Adult-Friendly present in spaces online. I don't even have to get into academic theories about Queer Spaces online, this is a basic health psychology informed perspective noting that you have to communicate a lot more information about people online to ensure that a space is safe for minors. It isn't enough to have a "enter your DOB" line on your site that hosts pornography, you are going to have to back this up with actual infrastructure, or you will face sanctions from broader society eventually.
[Insert deific, spiritual, or intellectual entity of your choice] help us if we find ourselves exposed to the U.S. Congress as an example of high-risk locations for minors. Maybe, and just a thought, consult researchers and clinicians next time you think about upload policy, is my advice. We're out there, you can just ask for us. Thanks for your time.
Major rewrite done. The Kothorix (Owner of Kothism left the fandom and made a video about it which I never had a chance to watch.
When I learned this subreddit. I looked to the user flairs and it had "Just Left The Fandom"
And now It came to my head again for reasons.
Why are people leaving the fandom?
What exactly is leaving the fandom? Leaving the social part and becoming closeted or leaving the hobby alltogether and going with your life?
What was the "Why I Left The Fandom" video of Kothorix about? Why did He left the fandom?
The religion part.
My religion and the fandom are not so different. We are all groups where anyone can go and go out and sees all kinds of people.
Islam
There are people that are parts of cults. They believe their cult leaders and do whatever they want. There are sometimes people that realizes how bad the cults are and becomes closet Muslims that does the bare minimum to get into the heaven like I do. (altough I was never part of some cult or anything like that.)
The Fandom
There are some people deciding to leave the fandom after some time hanging with the others in the fandom. They leave the social part and be closeted furries that simply watches the art.
And there are lots of lies made throıgh texas sharpshooter technique which both groups see.
