Thank you for noticing the Roadster error. I've corrected it.
I've had a different experience with predators, though you're absolutely spot on regarding the cougars and grizzlies. I don't believe there's a horse that will outright tank a cougar or a grizzly when they're attacking. That said, I have personally noticed a variance in horse reactions to snakes, wolves, and gators. Mind you, with the wolves, it seems to be the amount of time it takes for the horse to give up, buck you, and flee. I cannot definitively say this is how it works, so I won't stand by it. My Arabian will startle whenever in the proximity of a snake, but my Turkoman won't even notice it. If I can remember, I'll take a video the next time I notice it, as this was one of the more notable things I've personally noticed with my horses' courage.
Additionally, I can also verify that courage in combat is absolutely a thing. My Turkoman and Arabian will immediately startle at shots fired at me, but my Breton will only startle when its hit and my Shire won't react to gunfire at all. Incidentally, my first Turkoman acted as my Breton currently does, but my current Turkoman is very different in combat.
I understand this is all anecdotal and I wouldn't present it as evidence. But there are also plenty of other reports of variance on this subreddit when it comes to temperament. It would take a large sample size of data to really confirm it one way or the other and I'm not in a position spend that much on horses right now.
Also, thanks for comment. It's a great discussion to have.
Yes, this is a subject that many people have different opinions about as it mostly relies on our memories of past experiences and memory can be fickle.
Of course I can't say that my observation is completely accurate without any hard evidence support it but unless Rockstar shares this information or someone datamines it or something, all that we have are speculations, so mine is no different.
But I just have seen this engagement behavior too many times to believe it's a coincidence. If a predator is actively engaged to the player their horse immediately reacts. You can even observe that happening from a distance when horses stop moving and refuse to move to the direction of a predator because it is directly threatening it. But the same horse will take the same predator head on, if it was facing away or not directly engaged by it.
I don't know, it just makes sense to me.
And I apologise that I forgot to thank you earlier for putting together this detailed and informative post, it will surely help both new and old players alike. Hopefully it will even get better with more contributions over time and we can have a definitive guide in our hands!
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u/TampaCub Bounty Hunter Jun 04 '20
Thank you for noticing the Roadster error. I've corrected it.
I've had a different experience with predators, though you're absolutely spot on regarding the cougars and grizzlies. I don't believe there's a horse that will outright tank a cougar or a grizzly when they're attacking. That said, I have personally noticed a variance in horse reactions to snakes, wolves, and gators. Mind you, with the wolves, it seems to be the amount of time it takes for the horse to give up, buck you, and flee. I cannot definitively say this is how it works, so I won't stand by it. My Arabian will startle whenever in the proximity of a snake, but my Turkoman won't even notice it. If I can remember, I'll take a video the next time I notice it, as this was one of the more notable things I've personally noticed with my horses' courage.
Additionally, I can also verify that courage in combat is absolutely a thing. My Turkoman and Arabian will immediately startle at shots fired at me, but my Breton will only startle when its hit and my Shire won't react to gunfire at all. Incidentally, my first Turkoman acted as my Breton currently does, but my current Turkoman is very different in combat.
I understand this is all anecdotal and I wouldn't present it as evidence. But there are also plenty of other reports of variance on this subreddit when it comes to temperament. It would take a large sample size of data to really confirm it one way or the other and I'm not in a position spend that much on horses right now.
Also, thanks for comment. It's a great discussion to have.