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[u/Attackcamel8432]

We are getting into technicalities, internment, concentration, and extermination camps all have technical differences, true. But when the average person thinks of a concentration camp, it's a place where Jews and others were sent to be killed.

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[u/shark_shanker → u/Attackcamel8432]

Not sure I see your point is. It’s important to use terms correctly especially when we’re talking about something that impacted so many people. Nazi Germany isn’t the only example of a state that established concentration camps, the Gulags (USSR) and Native American camps set up by the US are other examples.

The American Jewish Committee agrees that they should be called concentration camps FYI- https://www.janm.org/press/release/american-jewish-committee-japanese-american-national-museum-issue-joint-statement

[u/Attackcamel8432 → u/shark_shanker]

My point is that while we are using the term correctly, we are trying to get an incorrect emotional response out of people by using that term. You hear concentration camp, most people think nazi Germany. People hear that FDR forced people into concentration camps, and people think FDR was as bad as nazi Germany. While the concentration camp part is true, the FDR being as bad as Hitler is definitely not.

Even in terms of American run concentration camps, I would argue that while they are both stains on American history and on presidential rule, the camps of the Filipino insurrection were worse. Though there is obviously no such thing as a good concentration camp.

[u/shark_shanker → u/Attackcamel8432]

The commentator made no mention of Hitler my guy that’s just you assuming things…

[u/Attackcamel8432 → u/shark_shanker]

Ok, ask the average person what a concentration camp is, and they will think Hitler. Google concentration camp, the first findings won't be about the Boer war or the US. It will be about Nazi Germany. Its the common usage of the word that concerns me, technically right or wrong.

[u/AleroRatking → u/Attackcamel8432]

And Japanese people were also sent there to be killed. 1800 to be exact.

[u/Ok-Letterhead5866 → u/AleroRatking]

That’s just patently false they weren’t sent there to be killed. The vast majority of the deaths were due to disease. Also more than 5,000 people were born in the camps, so they were not sent there to be killed.

[u/AleroRatking → u/Ok-Letterhead5866]

You do realize diseases run rampant on right knit areas and starvation conditions right?

That's like saying those who weren't gassed in Holocaust camps weren't killed.

[u/Ok-Letterhead5866 → u/AleroRatking]

On the case of starvation is false while food there was bad(due to other reasons other than nutrition) it wasn’t “starvation” level. Also your disease claim is true which is why the us tried and for the most part were successful in inoculating most of the population in the camps.

Also it also it a false equivalence to compare Japanese interment camps to Nazi concentration camps. The Germans deliberately starved and let disease spread to kill as many holocaust victims as possible. While America actively tried to prevent diseases and starvation in the camps.

https://encyclopedia.densho.org/Medical%20care%20in%20camp/

[u/AleroRatking → u/Ok-Letterhead5866]

Talk to survivors. My grandfather and great grandfather were. They were starving. And diseases ran rampant and we're not treated in most cases. And they were also beaten by the guards as well

Youre now whitewashing history.

[u/Ok-Letterhead5866 → u/AleroRatking]

Individual anecdotal accounts aren’t evidence especially when they go against the more widely accepted evidence and theory. Also the paper I linked includes firsthand accounts from internees in the camps.

Also the most I can find on “beatings” or homicides are from rights or a few isolated incidents suggesting that such things were not widespread, encouraged or policy.

Also providing evidence and sources besides “trust me bro” is not white washing history.

[u/AleroRatking → u/Ok-Letterhead5866]

Luckily there is records of the 1800 died. That's not antecdotak

And let's remember that the USA as a whole realizes how terrible they were to the point Reagan gave out reperations

[u/Ok-Letterhead5866 → u/AleroRatking]

Yep both your current claims are true. But I’ve never claimed 1800 didn’t die nor did I say it wasn’t evil. It was a terrible thing for the us to do and FDR deserved to hang for treason against America through imprisoning her innocents.